Galenforcer

First batch of supports I said I'd do. Will post the rest later today. Xander x Nyx Leo x Felicia Arthur x Peri Odin x Elise Niles x Charlotte Laslow x Selena Keaton x Camilla

Guess I'll make a list of the pairs I'm currently formatting so nobody doubles up. Hoshido: Nohr: I'm going to do way more than these, but I'm starting with the pairs I like.

So should I post it here? I've got Corrin(M) x Soleil all done. Source: Text Transcript:

Camilla is a good mother for anyone, really(except maybe Ophelia). The best one would be Velour because she's already really strong and you get Four Fangs + Deadly Breath. Belka works great for Benoit, since he gets more defense and mobility. Felicia!Foleo's also a good choice.

Unless you're support grinding, you aren't going to get all the kids or even use most of them.

Think I'll dump a support that's been lying on my desktop for the past month for revision.

Personally I find them interchangable since Pieri's not desperate for Samurai because she can A+ Charlotte for Berserker and Hinoka doesn't care who her husband is.

Only if they have the same base class. Example: Hinoka and Subaki are both Pegasus Warrior, so when they marry, Hinoka gets Subaki's secondary, which is Samurai, and Subaki gets Hinoka's secondary, Lance Fighter. I really don't want to factor in growths since most units in this game have good growths and they're mostly irrelevant for min-maxing(unless you do something obnoxious like make Midoriko a magic unit). Plus, I don't even know why Mitama wants to be a Basara when an S-rank class is much better(unless it's Sorcerer). Mitama can A+ Kanna(pick Fighter as your secondary) or marry her yourself(not a problem since Mitama has amazing modifiers).

Well, Kisaragi doesn't need any classes so it's just a waste of Lance Fighter. The strength doesn't matter much because of Matoi's personal and Rinkah makes Ignis's HP low too so I don't get why it's a problem for only her. My list didn't really incorporate any in-game usage since stuff like IK Odin is impossible to use in a timely manner. Because General is a bad ending class unless you're a defensive powerhouse like Benoit. With Mitama's offensive prowess, she either wants Lance Fighter or Berserker.

Ryoma x Azura is mostly for Azura/Shigure who need a good class, but Shin likes to be fast. Takumi x Oboro is redudant and wastes a Lance Fighter class. I say Subaki x Rinkah is better for the high defense modifier. Sure you get another Lance Fighter from Hinoka, but then Matoi can pair with Ignis for a powerful tank. I kind of disregard Jakob/Dia since they can get Bowman(a great class) through A+ options, but giving Azura to him screws her out of a good class. Camilla makes most kids great in general and Silas can eat up any scrap mom to get a great Sophie. Asama x Effie screws over class inheritance for Mitama/Effie(Asama's fine because of his A+ with Arthur). I consider it sub-optimal. I really think Benoit x Belka's going to be his default pairing since Ignis doesn't care about speed and it's the same as Rinkah anyway(you can always buy skills). Effie and Charlotte are about the same for Flannel, except Effie really wants Berserker to abuse her high strength. My say was based on postgame, since you won't even be making half the pairings I listed in IK or on either route without a bunch of grinding.

It's just me spit-balling but I was thinking these pairs might be the most optimal in terms of modifiers and class allocation: Ryoma x Azura Takumi x Camilla Subaki x Rinkah Saizou x Orochi Asama x Oboro Tsukuyomi x Sakura/Felicia Hinata x Pieri Nishiki x Setsuna Xander x Charlotte Leo x Felicia/Sakura Arthur x Kagerou Odin x Elise Zero x Nyx Lazwald x Hana Benoit x Belka Flannel x Effie Jakob x Luna Kaze x Mozume Silas x Hinoka

Saizou x Kagerou is pretty bland, to be honest. They were lovers once, and that's about it. I think they have better supports with other people. Odin x Luna disappoints me, while Lazwald x Luna was way better. Takumi x Oboro was surprising, since most crush supports usually fall flat. Arthur x Camilla is pretty dumb. I don't like supports that talk more about other people than the pair who should be talking together.

Sakura. Elise pushes trying to be cute way too much for my taste because "she's a little girl!"

To be honest, there should be more Saizou supports. The only ones I've seen translated are Charlotte and Kaze.

I suppose since you(Kamui) spend more time with them, that already gives them enough character and purpose to care about them more over Hoshido. Honestly, Hoshido feels a bit more diverse in character from the supports that have been translated. Nohr mostly relies on gimmicks to keep the conversation going and while people like Arthur and Charlotte can carry the support all the way through, they do follow a bit of a formula to keep your interest.

They don't get supports.

Could go from game-play, story, character, unit diversity, anything. It might be Awakening again, it might not. But for now, let's hope for some changes. Obviously, Galeforce should be more limited.

If you end with a 1-round, that's that. You can deal 20 or deal 15, but as long as you can deal 80 by the end of it, you've accomplished what you needed to do. Vaike!Gerome was a option some notable people(like Endgame) suggested and it later snowballed into the standard. So did pairs like Virion x Olivia and Kellam x Nowi. Once American players finally got the map, the mod situation hardly matter when it came to taking out the enemies and now people don't have to feel too conflicted with who to pair their parents with(Frederick and Ricken were redeemed from an optimization point, and Gregor and Lon'qu got the shaft). I still remember the days when everyone hyped up Sol, Armthrift and PavGis as the best skills in the game(aside from the obvious Galeforce). Now it's Dual Strike+, Vengeance, Vantage and Luna.

If she quads, then she'll take down her foe, regardless of what stat she mains. It's not like everything on the map has Lethality+(although that would have made Apotheosis actually challenging). Sage!Gerome was not an outrageous idea for the fact that the defense/resistance gap is pretty significant(Pavise+, Helswath), meaning his lower magic stat is more preferred than his higher strength stat. Makes you wonder why physical classes even exist.

Like... not really. Assassin!Lucina could just quad if she needs to.

I didn't... you thought that I thought my personal reasons influenced my gameplay reasons which... they do not. And I thought every female has to be a Dark Flier because of how overpowered Dark Flier x Sage couples are? Why is Lucina forced to go magical? Units like Gerome are assumed to physical so why can't other units do the same? Is it because of mod issues?

Speed is a pretty irrelevant stat in Apo. A General could probably double some generic fodder with enough help. I don't really like the front-back term everyone seems to have incorporated into the post-game. Galeforce or not, you can clear a crowd pretty easily if you know how to and aren't afraid of losing some HP. ...I guess. The small strength/magic modifiers aren't that big of a deal honestly, but str/mag > spd for inheritance if we had to prioritize for some stats.

Olivia!Lucina > Sumia!Lucina. To get to that magic 75 needed to double like 7 enemies in the game, just use a Speed Tonic. Chrom x Olivia family is honestly better than Chrom x Sumia family. I've always liked the idea of Inigo being Chrom's son and their parent convos fit well, despite being generic. The offensive perks of the latter don't really matter much because Pair-up breaks everything already. Although apparently the Apotheosis hype hasn't worn out yet even after a year...

There are more people that prefer Male Morgan, although most of said people are female fans. The other half see Male Morgan as superior as not only does your Avatar get Galeforce, Morgan has Aggressor access, which makes him better than Female Morgan. I don't really fancy any guy, so I go with Female Morgan all the time. The attack loss from no Aggressor doesn't matter at all. In fact, I keep my Female Avatar unmarried. I tend to find having Morgan to be too awkward.

There's a whole mess of pedophilia issues in the 1st Gen cast already, so time-travel marriage shouldn't be that awkward. If some people are morally disgusted by the thought, alright. But there have been weirder romances in the past games, so it's nothing to make a big deal about.