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Although "depends" is the "can't be bothered thinking about it" answer, It's gonna have to be the one I go for, and varies largely depending on what genre I'm playing. Most of the time however, I'd lean towards a hard but satisfying experience. I generally prefer to play "older" genres, like shoot 'em ups, platformers, fighters, RPGs etc. as tough as they get, so in that regard I'm a big fan of the likes of Treasure, Arcsys, Atlus etc. That also extends into the few competitve games I play, such as Puyo Puyo, which can really only "work" as a difficult experience. Easy but laid-back games however, I generally prefer for more "modern" genres, like FPS, MOBAs, Sports, Driving (I'm not blind to the existence of excitebike etc. but I think these genres have only fully developed much more recently than the platformer for example) etc. to be on the easier scale, because, for some reason, I tend to get more frustated with these kinds of games. One thing that bugs me though is this stigma that hard games are better designed than easy games. Whilst I can certainly agree that Dark Souls is a much better designed game than the Call of Duty single-player campaign, I wouldn't go that far with something like Yoshi's Island. Design goes far beyong challenging a player to their absoulte limit, and a lot of laid-back games show this really well, such as Yoshi's Island and Super Mario Galaxy. These are some of the highest regarded games of all time, and are all piss easy. Instead of difficulty, I look for control from than anything, though it's certainly arguable there's no better way to feel in "control" than by defeating a hard enemy. /semi-relevant rant over

Mostly SMT4 Final, Star Fox Zero, Persona 5, Ace Attorney 6, The Last Guardinnd and Mario and Luigi Paper Jam. Other games I got excited about, but got subseuently dissapointed in, were #FE for otaku pandering (he says after stating he's exctied for P5), Fates for being in two seperate versions, Horizon: Zero Dawn after finding out it played like TES and general Final Fantasy stuff because I realised they still had to be made by Square.

I always hate making lists like these. 1. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island 2. Chrono Trigger / Xenoblade Chronicles 3. The Legend of Zelda (Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, A Link Between Worlds, Link's Awakening) 4. Shin Megami Tensei (P3F, DeSu, SMT: SJ, SMT 2) 5. Radiant Historia 6. Metroid (everything except 1/2) 7. Phantom Brave 8. Fire Emblem (FE6, FE5, FE12, FE4) 9. Mario and Lugi: Bowser's Inside Story 10. Sin and Punishment: Succesor of the Skies Honourable Mentions - Valkyrie Profile - Pokémon Black and White / Emerald - Hydorah / Gradius 3 - Seiken Densetsu 3 - Mega Man 2 / 3 / 4 / 7 / 9 / X - Pandora's Tower - Azure Dreams - Final Fantasy 5 / 9 - Etrian Odyssey 2 - Super Smash Brothers Melee I'm going to count VNs on a seperate list because some people don't consider them "games". I only now realise after writing an essay that nobody is going to read this. Ah well.

For a lot of people, there's a purity aspect to it. Some people want to experience something as close to how it was originally intended as possible. I treat things on a case by case basis, but unless the English VA (like in Xenoblade) is really good, I'd much rather have that sense of "purity". That's not just Japanese either, no matter what it is, I'd much rather experience something in it's original accent. I think that there is, most of the time, a real sense of loss in something that has a dub. That's nothing against dubs, but take a film like Stalker by Andrei Tarkovsky (as I'm sure you all know), is an incredibly Russian film, and just thinking about watching in anything but Russian is a simply perverse. Then take something like Persona. It's highly rooted in Japan and it's culture (somewhat), and it just sounds jarring to hear people talk about Japan in English. I don't remember any examples in Persona, but it's like whenever someone in some High-School Anime talks about "failing English" or anything else along thse lines. I just think "oooh, no stop. You're embarassing youself". Of course that's just my opinion. Which is literally the only deciding factor here. I can justify my perferences all day long, but at the same time, giving reasons for why English VAs are better is equally right. There's nothing wrong with having an opinion, and I think it rather bigoted to have an actual distate that some people have a fucking peference.

I thought I was a goner on day 1. I enjoyed deceiving you all, I'm looking forward to batmafia with you guys.

The Izhuark wagon started really near to the very end of the day 2 phase (the last two hours of so iirc), and I was asleep at that point. Before that, he had I think one vote, and there wasn't really any reason for anyone to vote for him at that point. It was after Elie brought up the flip-flop that Izhuark began coming under heavy fire, which, again, iirc, happened very close to the phase end. The beginning and end of each phase is a shit time for me, unfortunately. It might mean very little, but Izhuark actually voted for me right in the middle of the time I was under heavy fire. iirc he was the fourth vote. Despite my post about my skepticism being cleared up on them, I was still somewhat suspicious of the fact that they hadn't really voted. I wondered if there was something going on, and decided to track them. Considering that Poly got an anti-town role, I really didn't track with that many expectations as to what the results would yeild. Being a new player, I don't really know how to use power roles, and how to use the results beyond someone targeting the player who was night offed. I can't find it, but when I was reading the thread I think I remember someone saying something about the fact that I got a sub right after Izhuark got lynched was suspicious? That was the real world, and before anyone asks, I believe I retain the liberty to withhold that information.

Crap, I didn't realise how close it was to the deadline. Now I'm making the assumption that SB. has played mafia before, and if so they know a lot more than I do on how to process reads. I felt like my posts were all fairly helpful, but if that's not true then I'll try to fix that. That being said though, I understand that line of reasoning more than the previous unexplained one. I'm aware that you're not speaking what you think about me, but I don't really understand how you'd come to that conclusion. I think I've been acting more scummy than players like Refa, so by that logic shouldn't that make him more scummy that me? I may not remember correctly, but I think Bakura said that his scumread on Refa was purely a gut read, so that doesn't really make much sense in context of your theory. Now that I think about, Bakura seems to have opposite reads to most of other people's reads. There nothing wrong with that, and It's good to get a clashing opinion to refine your own, if it's backed up. A lot of his points just felt like he was saying "it's just the way I felt" which, to me anyway, makes him lack credibility. Those feelings are fine to have on players, but when it's every read you have, and you don't explain further than that, is when it makes me suspicious. I feel bad for Bakura, as I feel like I'm picking on him when I make these points, and he sems to get quite angry at them, and I don't mean to make that happen. It's just the only real read I have that I can comment on. Sorry Bakura, no ill feelings towards you, you're just who I see as scummy at the moment.

I worded that poorly. What I meant to say was, do you disagree with the read or the logic. For instance, I don't nessecarily see Gaius as that scummy, and disagreeing there would be disagreeing with the read. I see you as scummy, but if someone gave a reason for thinking you were scummy that I didn't think, I would disagree with the logic.

Then drop out then, if you're allowed. If you're not having fun don't force yourself, don't blame it on other people. I don't ever recall people saying outright "post more you super obvious scum" (that's not what I think, it's just an example). I can't speak for anyone else, but the reason I voted for you had very little to do with your "lack of posts", but moreso your aggression and tone. Acting that way doesn't help anyone, and just leaves bad tastes in everybody's mouths. LIke I said before, if you're really not liking the game just drop out. Do you mean you don't agree with the actual points or the reasoning behind those points? If the former I'd argue that's not a good strategy, but if the latter then that's fair enough.

Reads (since I have nothing else to post) Refa - I see them as pretty positively town. Nothing they've said has rubbed me the wrong way, and they've been contributing from the very beginning. Because of that, I don't really have that much to say. Clarinets - A negative netural read. When they started posting, they started to really try to contribute and formulate opnions, but then it went sort of downhill. It seemed to take pretty long for them to give a list of their top 3 scumreads. Their could be reasons outside of the game for that I'm sure, but it sort of seemed like he was taking his time a little too carefully. Still not a lot going off of that however. Bakura - From day 1 I didn't like the way the way he was posting, and that's carried on to day 2. He seems just too, unwilling to post. He's said he has been trying to post more, and if so that's great, I have no way of knowing. It's just that it seems he wants to bring that up at every oppurtunity, and with a tinge of reluctance. I don't really like it, and he's my top scum read as a result. Izhuark - His voting seems a little insinscere, and it makes me a bit suspicious. Though he hasn't posted enough content for me to get a solid grasp on his intentions. He's the person I'm most conflicted about, as whilst I do see where the suspicion is, and agree with it to a certain extent, I'm not really that convined by it. Gaius - Very slightly suspicious of him, although his attempts to be able to communicate with SB. do make me feel better about him. He seemed to put a lot of effort in to that, not an amount I think scum would put in. He even had a fail safe, which really show initiative. That being said though, nothing he's done has made me think town. Tiny Goddess - Despite some early game skepticism, that's more or less cleared up. I'm seeing that early skepticism is very likely connected to her brother being in hospital, and obviously since that takes priority over mafia, it makes me feel bad, and the skepticism is starting to dispel. That being said though, it's still a netural read. That post about hospital really shifed my opinion about her. SB. - Despite what people are saying, I have more a netural read on him. Whilst I certainly appreciate he's trying to communicate as much as he can, but due to the vague nature of hiscontent, there's nothing I can really pinpoint as "town", and likewise, nothing I can pinpoint as "scum". Although it's on the positive side of the netural read. So far, my personal lynch order would be Bakura>Izhuark>Gaius>>Clarinets>everyone else.

What about his play in particular made you suspicious of him, or was it just a gut feeling? I think that's a bit too harsh. He can only comment through quotes, and the only way he can show signs of suspicion is through a vote. I assume he's voting and unvoting to show who he suspects the least to most. Which would be Tiny Goddess>you>me, I suspect anyway. He might not be able to speak but that doesn't mean he's useless. He has a vote, and that's more important than anything in my opinion. You're basically telling SB. to stop talking, and therefore stop contributing, which seems pretty scummy to me. ##Vote: Bakura

I don't really have any reads on anyone right now, and I was wondering if it would help if we got opinions on why Rapier might have been chosen to be murdered? I don't think anyone had anything but a townread on him, but it might help to see what other ideas people might have. As for me, re-reading his posts, could it be related to him trying to find ways for SB. to communicate more effectively? If so maybe people who voted SB. are to look out for? (I say that with full knowledge I fall in to that category) I don't really know if there's anything to get from that, it's pretty small post in the grand scheme of things.

"I'm never scum" is a pretty weak defense. It's got nothing to do with the game being played, and if mods are assigning roles randomly like I assume they are, has absolutely no grounding, as probabilty doesn't think, it's random. This is gambler's fallacy. You're also assuming that I voted for you despite your inactive reputation, therfore I'm suspicious; a reputation that I have no reason to know about or have heard about. Once again, a defense based on nothing but previous records that are completely based on chance. That applies to literally every other player though. We're all just as likey to have gotten a helpful role, and being inactivte doesn't suddenly make that more so. If you did have a helpful role, wouldn't it make more sense to say that you'd contribute something to get suspicion away from you to help the town at night? Obviously not contributing isn't reason enough to lynch someone, and isn't that strong evidence, and you can't blame people who might have more important real life events going on, but as we have very little to work with, I don't see the harm in voting for people who are inactive, and thus aren't helping to find scum this early in the game. I could easily accuse you of doing the same thing. I'm not saying there's no reason for people thinking I'm scummy, it's been pretty well established people don't trust me, but you haven't scumhinted either. You've just jumped on board the majority's opinion, exactly what I did, but apparently that's worse? Obviously you haven't posed enough for me to get an idea for how much you want to "self-preserve", but you seemed to really eager to attack me for voting for you, which doesn't go down well with me. I don't mean to sound overly aggressive, but I just don't really see how some of your logic holds up. You seem to be too caught up in "what roles you usually get", which I could prove to be true, ultimately doesn't mean anything because of random role assignments, so I'm a bit confused.

Oh I forgot. This might be obvious to everyone else, but I've been trying to work out what SB.'s different repones mean, so far we have "...", which I think means something along the lines of "you're getting somewhere", "...!" which I think means something along the lines of "you got it/yes", "...?", which pretty obviously just denotes confusion, and no response to a quote, which I think means he's using it as a point to back himself up, although he doesn't agree/disagree with it himself. If anyone has any other ideas on the limited examples, because if we can find out what the all mean, it would make communication much easier.

I haven't really had any strong feelings about him, apart from that he's trying to establish himself as a bit of a joker, saying that he hadn't even read his role PM. Although that seems pretty bold as a starting statement, something I doubt scum would do at the very start. I don't think there's anything to be read from him voting for a silent player when he was quiet too. The one thing that has struck me about him though is that he's often said things like "I can't be bothered to do x". I suspect that a town player might say something along the lines of "I haven't had the time to", and the way he says it makes me think he doesn't really want to help, and in his posts, he hasn't really made a big contribution. As for who I think are the most scummy though, It'd have to be the inactive players. Although some players like Bakura, Tiny Goddess and Izhuark haven't been posting that much, they still are well, posting, and thus contributing even the tiniest bit. Of all the players that have been inactive, Poly has been the most inactive, and so I think he's the most scummy.