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[spoiler=Chapter 8x: Level Montage pt.2]Standard strategiesWhy are mercenaries so tanky?So much exp~
THWOMPY (7/8 DEF). This is starting to get unreal, SHE HAS A 30% DEF GROWTH.Lilina is the offence to THWOMPY's defence, and it's wonderfulDangerous enemies coming up...But THWOMPY don't care, she can take itAll according to plan
NOT ACCORDING TO PLAN (she's standing on a lava tile, and if it popped this turn she would have died. Luckily, everything turned out okay)THWOMPY takes 1 for the team (That reads 15 under the x2). Lilina appreciates the handClarine gets in on the self-sacrificing thingWendilina OTP
...this isn't what I meant by self-sacrificingThe teamwork brings such joy to my heartLilina tries to bait, but that's a stationary mage...So Shanna chips him for Lilina instead, for yet another Mag level (some speed would be cool, though)Futility is beautifulAs usual, I'm a premier tactician who absolutely isn't totally dependent on luckThis is Henning. Henning is very very scary.An idea of how helpless most of my combat units are against him (half of them get ORKO'd by him with hand-axe at 2-range too...). The most damage Shanna can do with a double is 2x2...So Roy gets Henning-slaying duties
Shanna chips him down for Lilina (and takes 12 on the counter)NO! :( (Lilina gets rescued and dropped back because she gets ORKO'd by hand-axe) Shanna tanks another hit, misses the counter
LILINA PLEASE HIT. MISSING WOULD BE BAD
YES!
Well...defenses are good?33 turns of feeding kills.
Gimme dat
Oh dear...I have archers and THWOMPY, maybe I have a chance?Get outta here, Narcian. Oh I wish I could use Percival this run...Stat comparison vs averages:Lilina: -0.05/+0.75/-1/-0.85/-1.5/-0.1/-1.85Wendy (after factoring in Angelic Robe): -0.8/-0.2/-2.2/-1.2/+1.4/+4.6/+0.2So Lilina is overall slightly below average, but nothing too crazy. Wendy is...that defense stat...yeah. I don't even care that she has no offences to speak of, she's SO UNBELIEVABLY TANKY.
A question to those of you following this: Please let me know if there is anything I should change since I'm new to LP-ing? i.e. do I have too many screenshots (200-300 per chapter), are you enjoying the commentary, is there anything you think I'm doing wrong with my screenshotting, etc.?
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[spoiler=Chapter 8x: Level Montage pt.1]
You got the no equal part right...luckily we have a levelling montage coming up, and actual combat unitsThe team.You're so beautiful~Thwompy is the greatest baitI'll take speed!I'm so proud~Chipping and SnipingI really need to think about formations before doing them, huh? Luckily this EP ends up okayWrongs get righted.Uh...I'm a decent player, I swear? (THANK YOU RNG)Sue chips this offending Mage and gets an incredibly Sue levelSlay them all.Blah blah could have died blah blah...maybe this'll scare her into getting un-awful levelsI tried to chip, and then she crit...Well, at least there are other enemiesTHWOMPY (5/6 DEF)So beautiful~<3 Lilina is the greatest (I think she's already my hardest-hitting character, lack of doubling aside)Wendy continues baitingLilina is a really good chipper!Feed Wendy harder! (I wish I could get the boots sooner)Lilina can finally survives EP's if she gets hit!While Lilina can get her own kills......Wendy still needs 2 chipsBUT SHE'S SO THWOMP (6/7 DEF)Blah. This bad planning isn't even unexpected anymore (This merc doubled her too, but she dodged 1/2)Wendy chipping?! Lilina appreciates the favorShanna for best Jailbait - dondon151Lilina chips...but Wendy whiffs the Steel lance hit.Lilina gets an axe to the face for her efforts, and gets another Lilina levelTHAT 4-stat level-up...Progress is good, THWOMPY is 10/10 baitChip'n'feed -
[spoiler="Chapter 8: Introducing Lilina and THWOMPY, pt.3]
Continuing where we left off, Lilina fries one of the remaining archersSue chips, THWOMPY gets thwompier (3/4 Def levels!)This guy to the south, have to be carefulEZPZTime to breach the throne roomSue sent to slay magesRoy baits out the Elfire mage and Ellen gets a great level healing himCHIP'N'FEEDLilina is my new favorite armor-slayerCHIP'N'FEED<3 WENDY (4/5 DEF)The boss is a General, but Lilina can't damage him that well...But that's what Roy's for!Shanna tries to chip for Lilina...but misses both attacksLilina don't care, though. Whips out her Elfire and murders Leygance anywaysThis is going to Lilina. Poor Ellen is going to have to wait til C18 (I think Sophia has dibs on her C14 one)...Loots. Silver Axe is going to Wendy or Echidna, Secret Book likely Sophia (maybe Wendy/Lilina, we'll see)Shanna for Jeigan! She has (just) enough speed to double Henning now, but is any weapon she isn't weighed down by does 0 damage to him...One final level from healing. I'd like to point out that she's STILL AT BASE MGC.RIP :( -
[spoiler="Chapter 8: Introducing Lilina and THWOMPY pt.2]Roy plugging the left gap, and my archers taking potshots through the wall
Sue...Strength. It's a stat.
At least this level up is decently defensive
She's ready to rollOJ temporarily has to hold the right while Barth moves over, and Asthor loots the last chest for a weapon I probably will never use (well maybe Roy/Fir will use it to chip)Archers doing archer things (Sue chipping)
And the Princess of Ostia gets her first kill!
OJ almost dead, Merlinus is sent to...distract the enemies
Slowly farming expRIP.
This was...slightly sketchy. I didn't realise her defensive parameters were THAT badLogjam on the west side, Barth ready to block the East. Barth had to go East because there are these Armorslayer mercs West2-range and slow chipping <3Tanks tanking.Sue chips an archer (on EP I think)I like you already.Archers gonna archTHWOMPY GETS FIRST THWOMP LEVELTINK.
Wendy surviving EP attacks (pretty sure base Wendy gets ORKO'd here)! So proud ;_;
Lilina continuing to feast on the mercs tinking BarthArchers still gonna archRoy best dodgetank stillThanks to Dorothy, the West front is mostly thinned down, enough so that I'm shifting Roy right (so I can stop using Barth)EXP farming continuesMaybe I moved Roy too early, although Dorothy barely survives this EP, and gets a Sue level out of it<3. Lilina already hits harder than Sue...but Sue doubles thingsMeanwhile, Wendy is slowly having a 1v1 against this Soldier. Who will win? (I'm a dirty cheater and I have healers, but still)
S T R E N G T H.PLEASEYOU ARE SO GETTING BENCHED WHEN IGRENE SHOWS UPThwomps gonna Thwomp
Good planning confirmed (I swear I let my healers get attacked more than any self-respecting FE6 HM player ever should)Taking out the trash on the WestLilina chips, Wendy finishes...
...for a terrible level :(
Ellen realizes that I put my healers in way too much jeopardy and decides to bulk up (first point of Def!)
C-Support! (This turns out to be a mistake)...
...because it makes Roy ORKO all the soldiers :(Annual Ostia fashion show, starring Roy and Wendy!Feeding those kills
Sue doing some preemptive chippingHuh...I might not have planned this out correctlyTEAMWORKTHWOMP! (She has a 30% Defence growth, but 2/3 Def levels so far)Stupid armors.Lilina working on frying the other armor, but DAMN that hurtsTHWOMPY IS READY TO PLUG THE GAP!Yeah...I did not think this through (Lilina KO's the armor, archer kills)
REWIND AND UNEQUIP ELFIRE SO ARMOR SURVIVES
...this is so Lilina...Things happen, Lilina survives and Wendy is awesome
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[spoiler=Chapter 8: Introducing Lilina and THWOMPY pt.1]
The lineup: Roy gets my 3 use Armorslayer, and Ellen, by virtue of being less awful than Clarine, becomes my primary healer and gets the Barrier staff (Clarine has base magic still...)Starting positions.LOL WE HAVE 4 FIGHTING UNITS LEYGANCEDon't you dare. She's like the only unit in the game so far that actually does damageMy new thief, less paper thin than ChadFormation. (Yes, I remember to move Lilina to the left)After EP, not much has happened. A soldier weakened himself on Shanna's Iron lance.Dorothy and Sue claim kills since they can actually gain exp...The formless blob that is my army advancesShanna gains an incredibly Shanna final level as she chips for Sue. Way to stay disappointing, girlModerately annoying things happen on EP, but we're goodRevenge......that is, Sue takes revenge on me for allowing her to get hit with this terrible levelDorothy and Asthor being useful units!The advance is slow and steady...HELLO THWOMPY <3 You're going to be spending a lot of time with Lilina in the near future. Here's her glorious base statsFor reference, I believe this archer right next to her spawn location can ORKO herDe-equip those male scrubs. Welcome to the bench!Rapier from last chapter coming in handy chipping for DorothyShanna forced to claim kills because we have too many enemiesAsthor doing thief thingsPerfectly safe EP...Archers being useful on Player Phase, Dorothy hits A-bows (although I don't think we see a silver bow for a while yet, I think until Klein joins)Chip'n'kill should be this army's sloganMany archers get murderizedSue...I wish you'd be goodIt's time for THWOMPY to join the fight!Formation at end of T10......as Cath + Thief show up. Thankfully, they head to the north treasure room since I'd have no way of stopping them if they went west outside of making Dorothy murder them with the LongbowGod knows she needs this...are they unlocking Lilina's door? (yes they are, thanks Cath)Alright, I'm ready for EP!Hmm....this might be badREWIND. SHANNA, WHY ARE YOU SUCH A DISAPPOINTMENTBetter.EP survivedFREEDOM!Level 20s stealing exp out of necessityI'm so sad.But we're making progressYES. THWOMPY GETS HER FIRST KILLNow, this might look sketchy...Okay, this might be really sketchyBut WENDY ISN'T ORKO'D BY THIS MAGE AFTER ROBE. I'm a genius.Hitting stuffsLilina will appreciate the Elfire, and I prevent the enemy thieves from taking anythingWe're looking good!Well, Ellen got 5 stats...everything but the 2 stats she really needsReinforcements from the northNeutering the enemy ThievesUh oh...2/3. You'll be mine soooooonSouthern reinforcements, I'm getting pincered hereLilina base. Please be good, I need you to deal damage and kill thingsSue appreciates Asthor's effortsDorothy still being awesomeLoot Wendy's Knight Crest, and hole up in this room. Barth temporarily used to plug a hole, since on my team right now, only Roy can actually take a hit. Roy will plug the left gap soon and Barth moves to the right... -
Didn't you need that hero crest for Fir?
I've made a terrible mistake. Luckily I get another one in 11A, so I don't think it'll end up delaying Fir's promotion
Also, great job on making sure no males see combat! This is probably the best Roy I've seen, like, ever. Poor Shanna though. Clarine's never ever ever turned out good on my runs.
Thank you! Roy being blessed was so huge for the early-game, especially with a sub-par Shanna
Lilina should resolve some of your strength issues, though.
And then Wendy's going to pour salt in every single wound.Oh, just you wait until you see how amazing Wendy becomes. Armads user for sure[spoiler=Wendy at lvl 12]
She's gained 9 points of Def in 11 levels...her Def growth is 30%. Yup. Meanwhile, she's procced her 40% Spd growth twice and her 40% Skl growth once.
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Seems the first option just won out by a vote. I've been mulling it over. Would it be fair to offer a compromise? Like if I attempt the chapter 5-10 times without a hint and I still can't get the gaiden requirement then people can hint or tell me the requirement? I would put in screenshots showing the chapter status screen, the unit list, and the save screen if it helps, as well as what method (turn count, levels, etc.) I attempted each run.
Alright. The next chapter with a gaiden (no hint of requirements here) is...
Chapter 12! Good luck :)
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[spoiler=Chapter 7: The Circle of Death, pt.3]Healing up, slaying stragglersSuddenly, MORE EP reinforcements from the south? I was not expecting this...
...I should be happy about a 4-stat level up....but I'm not. Dorothy has higher standards than thatKilling off those jerk EP cavs
Sue...you know Strength is a stat, right?Roy chips, and Shanna continues to disappoint meCavaliers cleared out, Roy and Dorothy go back to their favorite pastime of slaying armors (Dorothy's Iron bow is broken by now, and her steel has like 3 charges left. Good thing this chapter has armories)Baiting the Wyvern with Shanna...
...MORE CAVALIERS? I hate this stupid gameWyvern gets dealt withRe-slay cavaliersPoor planning at its best
Silver lance duel! (Shanna has 1hp after cav counter)Slay, chip and slayVillages! The Longbow, physic and KE will all be very useful coming upSell a lockpick and 2 Red Gems
Hi, 5000 gold! (I have 0 hero crest units LOL)
...I give up on my healersDorothy vents some of my healer rage and gets a nice level (spd is always nice)Shopping! I buy a bunch of Iron lances/Javelins for Shanna/Wendy, overbuy like 15 iron sword, sell Hero Crest, buy a truckload of heals/mends/Door Keys/Chest Keys/Bows. I end up spending like 15k hereProc throne room reinforcementsMurderize
Good. You'll need skill to HIT THE BENCH (seriously, get Strength or get benched)Finish all the reinforcements. Just the boss leftExcellent. I need me a new Rapier, and the Barrier'll be useful for grinding whichever of Ellen and Clarine sucks lessRoy hits 2/4 attacks on EP then PP...Leaving Shanna to finish! She's almost level 20, and she gets to promote with the Ch.8 Elysian Whip to become Marcus 3.0Lets just get some more healer exp before seizing
...I hate you so muchUnit Recap! Versus averages, they are:Roy: +0.8/+1.4/-1.5/+2.4/+0.6/-0.75/+1.3. He's been doing excellently, and being above average, especially in speed has really made the early-game manageable.Shanna: -1.1/-1.4/-0.9/0/-3.8/+0.2/-2.5. Seriously. She is absolutely awful compared to averages, but she's also one of my only 2 frontlines, so I slap that Silver Lance on and make her do things :(Ellen: +0.4/-1/+0.6/-1.6/-2.6/-0.4/+0.2Clarine: 0/-1.5/0/-1.5/-0.25/-0.5/-2Wow. My two healers are so unbelievably screwed on every single important stat it makes me cry inside. I can't wait for Cecilia/Niime at this rate :( Nonetheless, they're both still useful healbots, even if they suck at healing and suck at dodgingDorothy: -2.35/+1.5/-2.95/+2.05/+0.15/+0.35/+1.35. Dorothy really knows how to specialize in what matters, and carries my player phase offense at this pointSue: +0.15/-0.1/+3.15/+1.45/-2.5/-0.7/-0.05. She's...really overspecializing in those myrmidon stats. Turns out she's not strength screwed, her average Str just sucks...45 turns is honestly not that bad for Ch.7 with 4 combat units
Rescue Wendy, no matter the cost! 2 more combat units coming up, thank God
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[spoiler="Chapter 7: The Circle of Death, pt.2]
We left off with this defensive formation...(Roy would have been above Dorothy, but he had to retreat for some emergency healing)Not that Dorothy cares about Puny 1-range enemies trying to hit herThat...was surprisingly close (like 85% Chance of Death?). Treck is unfazed, though.OW.Treck gives 0 shits about your hitratesThis EP wasn't disturbingly close or anything......but we live on!Shanna chips for Sue, while Dorothy has no need for chipping, as we thin the crowdI love my dodge-tanksWyvern #2 on his way (not the Red Gem guy)And he's promptly murderized by the girlsSome painful counters takenOld man finally has to chug his second Vulnerary. What a beastSomething something dangerous EP something...Stupid physic priestsMVP, MVP, MVP, MVPShanna chips, and Sue learns from Dorothy's example that it's actually possible to get both Str and Spd in a single level!Heal up, looks like the situation is mostly stable...NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO THIS IS NOT WHAT I NEED RIGHT NOWShanna shatters her Silver Lance, but we have to clear out the upper enemiesUpper front is clear, everything looks good, right?Nope, Dorothy gets murdered by a Knight + Archer from offscreen. REWINDDodged 1, good enoughStupid EP reinforcementsDorothy finishes off her would-be killerWHAT? HOW IS THIS A THINGNo-risk zone for EllenClearing out reinforcementsWill we survive the Silver lance guy?YES. Dorothy4MVPSo good~Roy and Shanna chip, Sue finishes......for another Myrmidon level. Sue, please get strength or I'm going to use Igrene over youRoy chips, Dorothy resumes armor-slaying dutiesThings have stabilized enough for Shanna to start getting loots -
Well, now you have passed chapter 4, chapter 5, and 7, the game is probably going to be easy. (after chapter 8, the game becomes really not that hard)
However, if you need to exp Lilina and Wendy to make them decent, stay in the chest room, put meatshield or tanky units to block the enemies, and chip with Fire/Javelin until death.
Yeah, I just beat chapter 8 :) 8 and 8x are going to be my Wendy and Lilina training grounds
You could also have Roy Dodgetank Leygance to burn out his spear(this gives healers exp too) and then have fun chipping him to death.
If you dodge, it doesn't use up spear charges! In any case, I didn't want to boss-abuse for exp
[spoiler=Chapter 7: The Circle of Death, pt.1]
This chapter was...well, pretty hellish, as expected
I'm coming for you (and Wendy)!The team. I bend the rules slightly and bring Marcus to meatshield, and to rescue Roy in place to recruit Zealot t2. I'm pretty sure this is the (first and) last time I deploy a male character to meatshield. Chad is here to open chests/steal, and Merlinus is Merlinus.The face of hell.Loots this chapter (aka Chad's justification for his existance)STRATEGY (Clarine and Marcus rescue/drop Roy up there so he can get Zealot/Treck t2, so I can continue to have no males doing damage!)A good EP, even if that Physic jerk undoes my chippingChip and kill, clearing the way for Roy to talk to ZealotGreens Get!Dorothy chips away at an armor, and gets another amazing levelIn hindsight, I probably should have aimed to defend in the alleyways next to the houses instead, I could have cut down on the amount of Zealot/Noah/Treck/Marcus meatshielding I needed to do :( I think it's theoretically possible to have Roy tank everything from probably T4 or T5 onwardsDodging stuff on EP, all looking good so farOW. Spoke too soonFir, join me now! I need a second frontlinerMy healers are working overtime, Sue's forced to get a Vulnerary outDorothy for MVPThat's...a surprising amount of damage for Shanna. Wyvern scum #1 down.YES ROY, YES. (He had to crit here to clear the way for Zealot to reach Noah, and I didn't even have to abuse for it)SuccessDisarming the Ilians (None of them have used their weapons yet)Setting up for EPMerlinus and Treck for best dodgetanksJust kidding, dodging is overratedUnless you're Merlinus, who gets doubled by this cav but just dodges everythingHeal up, my meatshields! (Treck and Marcus pop vulneraries)I love you three ;_;Got time to get rid of Zealot's pristine weapons (see? No combat by males!)YesssssssssssNO! Damnit Shanna, you just had to dodge ONE attackRewind, and...Clarine :(Better. Much better.Situation is starting to be mostly stable. Now, to kill all of those pesky 2-range enemies...Shanna kills off an archer but remains in mortal peril......I...I.........I am so unbelievably disappointed in you right now.You're not much better! You two need to learn from Dorothy and get real levels..Speaking of Dorothy, lets feed her more killsKeeping the meatshields healthy, and....Ellen, not you too! :(Just shieldin'I love it when I make bad decisions but don't get punished for itLast archer dead. Airspace is now pretty safe for Shanna (I'm burning through so many Silver Lance charges so she can ORKO things)I'm so proudThe situation now. Everything looks slightly less grim, but there are still a lot of enemies, and I still only have 4 damage dealing units -
So, DualDragons, it's getting to the point where you should probably make a decision about the Gaiden chapters how much we should tell/hint
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There we go. He's ready for his promotion now, even if I'm planning to take him only to level 5 promoted so I can get a future unit down the road.
Bartre doesn't have to be level 5 promoted (or promoted/levelled at all) to recruit Karla in CM, so you can save that Ocean/Earth Seal if you want.
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[spoiler=Chapter 6: TWO BOW USERS? pt.2]
We continue with Sue finishing off a hapless soldierI decide to disarm Roy so he doesn't ORKO the soldiers and take all my expGetting Chad out of dangerArchers killing things, DOROTHY DOES NON-ZERO DAMAGE AGAINST ARMORSAnd she gets even more Strength. This is so amazing, especially since I need to to be really good for the Ch.7 wyvernsGetting some damage in and keeping my guys topped upNot strength, but defence is nice!Roy for best JeiganShanna chips for Dorothy...Just kidding, she wants all the kills to herselfSo Dorothy claims the soldier insteadUnlock staff get, and given to EllenMore enemies revealedHave I mentioned I'm terrible at unit positioning yet?But Ellen decides to reward my bad play with an excellent level (well it has magic)Dorothy continues to be awesome, I still can't believe how much strength she gotSue finishes the mage for a myrmidon levelSure, speed works.Chipping an armor......That's an Iron Bow. <3 DorothyHeal and moveLoot. Dorothy takes the bow, but I have no axe users this entire run except Echidna and Wendy. I'm starting to think I should let Wendy have Armads, since Milady is obviously taking Maltet.Unlock and loots. Shanna gets a second Silver lance, since that's the only thing that salvages her awful Str.Roy gets his weapons back, since I'm planning on proccing lots of reinforcementsTank and chip, standard strategiesAnd we clean up, easy :)Top-up Roy, we're proccing reinforcements!Slaughtered. Plenty of chipping from Roy and ShannaMyrmidon level againBreak a heal topping upBad screenshot of Roy chipping that armor for 22More chip?And Dorothy finishes. I'm trying to preserve her Steel Bow now, because I know I'm going to need it vs Wyverns next chapter<3 MVP. You're everything I ever dreamed ofChip and slayChip and slay again. Dorothy didn't even need a save-state restart, that's how boss she is82 turns...I'm clearly a talented LTC-erI wish you had your dad's Strength growthI'll put Ch.7 up tomorrow, there are like 250 screenshots to go through -
[spoiler=Chapter 6: TWO BOW USERS? pt.1]
YES. A THIRD DAMAGE DEALERMy party for this chapter. Chad has to open/steal things.I have never ever been so happy to see an archer in my life. Ellen hands her the Iron bows I got for her in Ch4 (Yes. I sold an Iron Bow in Ch2. And then bought some in Ch4. I'm so good at this game).You're useful! *sheds tear*Shanna dodges, but Roy's all worn out from dodging all those hand axes last chapterShould probably slay some armorsDorothy reequips Roy's iron sword after to conserve Armorslayer charges...I'm going to need them laterI'm so proud of youNo, this definitely wasn't dangerous, why do you ask? (I think she had like a 80% chance to die that EP...)The situation (note my healers are nowhere near my army)...so Dorothy's still low on HP. REWINDBetter..BETTERClear out the middle group of enemies, situation is stabilizingOh hi! Time to neuter CathYou're the greatest, Dorothy. Never changeHealers are freed!Shanna on a suicide mission to stop Cath from leaving, but she just casually dodges everything like a champ. She's really starting to pick it up after a bad start1/3. Soon...DOROTHY <3She don't care about your lethal damage, eitherPlayer phase: Once I clear out these enemies, the map is pretty stable...but they're pretty threateningDorothy heals and chips......Shanna finishes the north archerAnd Roy wipes the other one off the mapAwesome!Not awesome! Shanna, I should never compliment youI may have made a mistake...REWINDAlright, we should be good nowRe-get level 16. Just as bad...I love letting my healers get hit by things, why do you ask?I survive EP!I...I forgive you...Re-get level 7. At least I still got magic!Murder! Death! Kill!Suddenly, EP reinforcements. I hate this game sometimesBut Ellen's coolClearing them outMisposition. Fall back!More EP reinforcementsWhy do I keep doing this?Roy chips in an endless abyss......and Dorothy finishes for Strength! Dorothy, you're so amazing, I just want you to know.Healers healing healers, because I do stupid things like thisShanna doing positive damage to armors? These guys suckMeanwhile, Saul's just been sitting down there the entire map. This is intentional, I don't want the EP reinforcements from the bottom of the screen to come yet, and they're only triggered when my entire army advances upAs I prepare to start opening doors, Clarine continues to disappoint me. I wanted to use her endgame, but at this rate, I might be using Elen/Cecilia as my 2 staffbots.Chip and snipe the remaining stragglerBow user #2 Get! She takes the other Iron BowShanna takes a small detour to murder a dude......while Chad lootsMurder successfulLoot successful (the other chest had 3k gold), preparing to breach room #2EP reinforcements incoming?Yup.Clearing the room.Forgot to show Sue's bases, but here they are. She's decently fast, but whether or not she gets used late depends on how much she procs Strength. -
Yeah In starting to come to that conclusion myself. I can't decide if its legal to use allies as meat shields. No weapons equipped obviously.
Thoughts?
I think in some early chapters (13x especially, maybe 15H), it's going to be insanely difficult without Marcus or Oswin plugging a gap
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[spoiler=Chapter 5: Hell is Hand Axes]
This chapter...I thought it'd be easy, but it was TERRIBLE (harder than Ch.4 and possibly even Ch.7)...
Franchise name drop that's irrelevant to everything in this chapter but the end-cutscene...I wouldn't call us an army. It's just a fast kid with a sword and a squishy girl on a WingHorseShuffling some gear around, getting Roy Rutger's KE.Standard strategies will be fine, right?Please join me now :(You're officially my favorite lord, and I take back every bad thing I've ever said about you. Now if only you could promote at a reasonable time :(Kills and protection. Everything seems like it's under control....until I realise what's coming over the mountains. This is BAD.Shanna murders a mercenary, and then is whisked down to protect the main army by Marcus. Roy's just going to sit on that fort and dodge everything they throw at himTheir only non-zero hitrates. Roy isn't dying any time soonAt least my army isn't totally disgracefulShanna hit A-lances recently, and considers using the Silver lance, until she realises she can't ORKO because she's TERRIBLE.LOL.Uh. I'm bad at positioning?At least she's hitting those 68 hitrates. I think 4 of them (factoring in true-hit) comes out to like 45% CoS on this course of actionFlirting with death is a happy happy pastime in this army. At least Hand Axes suck.Sadly, Shanna sucks too.Dodge 3 would-be-lethal-attacks.PLEASE HITAT LEAST YOU CAN DO SOMETHING RIGHT <3Meanwhile, Roy's taken 0 damage up there......until he steps off the fort, and I HATE THE RNG SOMETIMESAt least he's dodging SOME thingsRealize that I actually have to do things other than turtle, get pretty-awful-but-50-uses lance.Shanna ends up in range of the nomad, so Roy ends himThat's...a lot of axesAnd the main party is under threat. Stupid reinforcementsDoes this remind anyone else of that Trial Map where Roy has to solo 8 million unpromoted Fighters?Brigands are again rushing my bench. Roy's busy fighting every axe user ever born, and Shanna......is cheating deathI forgive you. At least you're diverting almost every enemy on the map.Things are starting to get a little diceyI send Rutger up north to distract the two Hand-Axe brigands, while the rest of my army tries to dodge the Steel AxersSee above.RUTGERThings are looking up?SighBreaking out the Silver lance, those hand axes have to dieMeanwhile, at Roy's life (every enemy stupid enough to get in 1range is dead). All those hand axes have 0 hitWhat a mess. I have mostly my tankier bench units on the edge, but any bad RN string could end me here.Second hand axe down. My second rank units can breath safelySo yeah. Hope to avoid those bad RN stringsSTRENGTHAnd Roy...just wow. Gets me an AMAZING final level. Roy for best Jeigan, he now has +4/+5/-1/+6/+9/+0/-1 compared to MarcusShanna finally manages to clear off the last Steel Axe brigand, after my characters have dodge an absurd number of potential lethal blows.Meanwhile, at Roy clearing his way through some upper enemiesI'll take strength!Almost done!Terrible idea incoming?But then he crits and totally makes up for my terrible tactical skillsThat's not magic! (But I'll take speed, she needs to not die as my primary healer)Terrible idea...Roy starts to chip instead, leaving Dory on 2......This might be the worst idea I've had in a while. Making a save-state here......that I didn't have to use! Shanna, you're the bestShanna, you're not the bestWhat a nightmare -
[spoiler=Chapter 4: Hell is Horses]I am so worried about this chapter, I remember having difficulty clearing it even when allowed to use Marcus/ALance...
Need magic user ;_;Erik is just such an upstanding and noble guy. What could possibly go wrong?
Healer on a horse!
Old man doing what old men doRoy bait time. I really regret using so many Rapier charges in Ch.1, because I REALLY need them this chapter.
I don't even 2HKO/1RKO with the rapier. This is just tragicHealer on her way (soon)Team sits in the corner while fighting people fight (I wish Ellen could take a hit. That would be cool)
You are the greatest, now come heal me PLEASE
Roy...At least you're doing things
She kills an archer. This, however, was a terrible idea in hindsightA great level (STRENGTH FINALLY), coming from three VERY important dodges...
Oww.
This is a great position, they can't reach me because Clarine is blocking them off and enemies in this chapter won't attack her!
Oh. Oh no. I did not think this throughJUST KIDDING. Shanna redeeming my poor javelin decisions against bow users since Chapter 2.Roy massacres the Cavs while dodging everythingJust in time, perfect. It feels great to have a healer who won't die this chapter.Ow. Rutger's reinforcements just spawned, and Roy has to rush down to intercept the Pirate reinforcements who are otherwise going to burn the bottom village.
Too many enemies right now, Shanna will have to sit out a little (and head back to my bench, since some reinforcements are going to spawn there in a few turns
Killing edge get! Now go hide in a cornerI love how dodgy Roy is (and all the enemies go for Roy instead of Rutger because nobody wants to mess with HM RutgerSo dodgy <3
And strength too! Roy's really trying to impress Clarine.Ladies love a man who flirts with death <:I love how this is a valid strategy. All the enemy hitrates are pathetic on forest!Roy, and Clarine keeps him topped up. They can stay here pretty much indefinitely
Slowly but surely
Merlinus takes a second death for the team
Troll-reinforcements :(
The bench is under attack!
For Roy, maybe. It's pretty chill on the bench thoughShanna (very) slowly kills off those 4 cavs while my other party members try to not dieMeanwhile, Roy just calmly soloing an armyShanna loves flirting with death...Last cavalier dead. All these pirates have sub 5% hitrates on Roy, and he can just clean them up at his leisure
In all that time, Shanna's only managed to kill 1 cav...yeah
ROY4MVPVery slow progress, as Marcus shields the squishies
This is pretty much what the entire western front is like
Enough so that Clarine can go shopping and buy a mass of Heal staves (God knows we need them)Shanna, kill things faster please, we're dying here!
Well that's a start
Buying Iron swords, since Roy is burning through them at an unreal rate.
...Shanna passed the bad level syndrome to EllenShanna finally kills them. That totally didn't take foreverSo hand axes are terrible...Shanna gets fed some kills by Roy, since she needs the exp more than he does
This is going to Wendy.Preparing to fight Erik
Planned.
Top her up
I COULD do this...but I won'tDecide to let Roy chip him down a little
Rip Rapier. You did your job (I guess I left a perfect # of charges)
Please hit (I accidentally left Clarine in range and Erik's Javelin can OHKO her...and it turns out that he's the only person on the map who WILL attack Clarine)It'll do
So this level was +skill 1stat. Great start, Clarine!Surprisingly un-terrible
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[spoiler=Chapter 3: RIP Hector]
This map sucks and should feel bad.
My new (and disarmed) thief.
The standard, Roy baits things while everybody else cowers strategy
Roy, why did you get hi--I FORGOT TO UNEQUIP RAPIER, RESTART.Better, even if the Iron Lance jerk still hit you
Ouch (this is after he got hit by the archer)
I'm alive! And people are out of range. Time to park Roy on a forest (He attacks the archer, gets healed by Ellen, who's then rescued away)
My units finally learned to dodge. I'm so proud of them
ROY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. (There's no way this run's early-game would be possible if Roy didn't decide to get amazingly speed-blessed)
Rescue people, hide in corner (Bors gets to tank the soldier)Shanna has pretty bad odds of survival, but she has to think down the upper crowd. Luckily RNG remains in my favor for now
If only you knew, Narcian. I literally have 2 fighting units, everybody else is hiding in the corner, and Shanna barely wins 1v1 vs a soldier.
PLEASE NO
You mean my entire army? (2 women, 1 child ;_;)All the big bads leave.Roy continues being amazingBors and Merlinus taking it for the team.
Please learn from Roy and get decent levels. You're one of my 2 combat units :(
Roy forgets to dodge, he's so shamed by Shanna's level up
This is a terrible idea
But RNG is in my favor
Just kidding :( Rewind
How many times have I had to rewind for you?
See, Shanna? This is how you dodge death.Better.Now that the upper soldiers are cleared out, my army can move up slightly, while Roy grabs a Vulnerary and heals up a little
Team didn't move far enough
And Roy can't dodge arrows.
Shanna risking her life as usual (I think she's at a risk of dying pretty much every turn here)
Post-turn formationRoy <3
Formation. Spot the flaw
Yeah. Bad idea, but RNG saves me
...I deserve this
SHANNA. IS THIS KARMA FOR THE REWINDS I HAD TO DO FOR YOU?Cavalier reinforcement bumrush. The situation is mostly stable, with Roy tanking the majority of the hits.
My least favorite 4-stat level up :(Slow progress
...If Shanna would stop missing, that isMiscalculations were made
...I guess that's better than her last 2 levels?I clear out the bottom just in time, as cavalier reinforcements are starting to come from the top now.
Army moves downwards, heal Roy......so I can use the time-honored Roy-baitSlay my way up
Magic please?
The Bors courier gives Roy a new sword and VulneraryBait, chip and feed
Old man running errands again
Thanks for Lilina's fire tome
Do the cavalier reinforcements ever stop?
*gasp* A good Shanna level?!?! (But please grow strength. Seriously)
This may be the only time I've ever seen the top path get takenBait and feed again. I believe that Shanna can one day be useful when fed enough killsSlowly murders Slater, and gets a good level in the process. Thank you for finally getting Str, Roy!
I could seize here...but I want more exp/lootSlay armors.
When I said I wanted magic...eh whatever I'm fine with itFinish the last 2 enemies
Good thing I got that mend staff, huh?LewtSo uh...yeah. LTC!
RIP Hector :(
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[spoiler=Chapter 2: Roy gets Company]
Chapter 2: Roy gets Company
I wish you'd join me earlier :( See you in 11 chapters
Healer get!
Old man running errands
Rest of the team clears out
Soldiers combat params vs Roy. I don't go through with this attack, would rather let them hit me on EP
Roy positions so he can only get attacked by 2 soldiersAnd of course he gets hit by both of them. Great pose in the first picture, though.
A Second Combat Character Appears! (Although she's made of paper right now)
Deke disarms his buddies (and vice versa)The situation.
Fast but made of paper. Please get strength.
Heals up, gets on a forest
Everyone else runs far away so everyone just attacks Roy.
Soldier misses? Not sureRoy dodging things (and counter-killing I think).
Wade, you disappoint me.T3 Start situation
Sell Iron Bow for $ that I didn't need. This was absolutely a mistake.
Since he can't dodge...
First kill (she hit both)!
RIP Speed streak :(
YES he dodgedOuch.
He's pretty dodgy, but hits like a wet tissue.
FLEE, SHANNA, FLEE.
Dodging as he runs to safety
Point now choked. Roy can handle this np
Those hitrates.
Dieck's party made it safely to the bench!Situation at turn's end. Roy can survive indefinitely on that fort.See?Player Phase start! (That archer can OHKO Shanna)
Fly away, try to dodge javelins!You disappoint me :( Rewind and burn 1 RN.Much betterLogjam cleared somewhat, Shanna flies to safety
It's strength, I'm sure not complaining. Seems like he's done with speed now, though.
Shanna slays the archerAnd dodges on EP for this level. Shanna, why are you so disappointing?Situation is stable. Time to feed Shanna kills and hope she redeems herself soon.Clearing out soldiers while Roy tanksSome misses and dodges happenShenanigans as she slowly kills that Fighter. At least that level had 3 stats, even if she still desperately needs Str and defencesWith the coast clear, Old Man comes down and delivers presentsGogo. Roy baits/chips
Surely this is a good idea...
I'm bad :( Rewind and heal before attackingAnd apparently accidentally burn a RN in the process, netting a clean kill.Bait, chip and kill for the same level again.Feeding Shanna all the killsRinse and repeatHeal up the bait to bait better
...and then he crits :(Chip for a great level. I knew you had it in you, Roy!
This'll be fine, right?
Uh oh..THANK YOU BASED RNG
Shanna finally collects the kill after her nearrrr death experienceBoss slaying. I'd have fed the kill to Shanna, except she can't actually damage the boss at all.
So yeah...these turn counts
WHY CAN'T YOU FIGHT FOR ME :(
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After spending a while here lurking LPs, playing FE when I have time, and occasionally coming out of the woodwork to post here and there, I decided that, since I'm playing all this FE, I may as well share it (and revisit my favorite FE game/mode), but with a bit (lot) of an added challenge (heavily limiting my pool of available characters and forcing myself to use the 2 worst characters in the game).Rules:1. Only Roy + Female Characters allowed to do combat/heal. Male characters can meatshield early on (I'm not sure it's possible to beat the first few chapters without anyone else at least getting attacked from time to time) and visit villages/recruit/etc.2. Thieves (Chad/Asthor) allowed, but only to steal/open things (no combat). I must recruit Cath as soon as possible, and once I have her, no more Chad/Asthor3. Wendy, Sophia and Lilina will be used. Heavily. Wendy's getting the boots. Yup.4. After I get the preparations menu, Male characters will only be allowed to be deployed for Thief utility or recruitment purposes (and Marcus being deployed as a meatshield on chapter 7 because I don't think it's at all possible otherwise...)5. Savestates will be used but not abused (no level up rigging, no crit/hit rigging except for with Wendy and Sophia, since I feel like levelling them will be absurdly difficult otherwise, pretty much only used to rescue units from death).6. All characters will be recruited, all characters will be kept alive (sans Merlinus. He'll die for the cause from time to time). I will, as much as possible, try to get every village/chest/etc.7. I'm not buying stat boosters at the Chapter 21 secret shop. Everyone maxed out on boots/energy rings/speedwings sort of defies the point of a challenge runI honestly wasn't sure the early-game would be at all possible (especially chapters 4, 5 and 7) with the limited early units, but I played up to and beat 7 (and figured that it's possible enough that I won't end up abandoning this), so here we go! Other chapters I'm worried about are 8x and 11L, but hopefully someone on my team can kill Henning, and my characters aren't total garbage by 11L. After 13, I'm not too scared because I'll have Milady, but my frontlines remain pretty painfully thin...I think Milady, Echidna and Wendy are my only real frontline characters, and that's terrifying...[spoiler=Chapter 1: The Pain Starts Here, aka Roy Solo]
Scouring. Heroes kill dragons. Backstory.
Zephiel, why do you do this? I always get screwed by RNG in Battle Before Dawn in HHM, and THIS is how you repay me? I should never have saved you :(
Marcus > Eliwood. Also, did Harken, Sain and Kent all mysteriously die?
Lilina please save me. I need combat units and I need them now.
The face of our hero/carry/GodLooting inventories for Sword/vulneraries.
All non-Roy units can go cower in a corner for all I care. Not shown here, but Roy moves far right to show off his manliness for Lilina.
This might be my favorite Roy pose. Now, if only he would dodge 40% Axe hits (Rapier is equipped for the chance of critting back.)
Starting off, I'm clearly terrible at taking screenshots. Roy crit here after dodging an axe-hit.
So bad at taking screenshots ;_;. Roy uses a vulnerary and taunts all the enemies into attacking him (no other unit will enter battle this chapter!)
Stab on EP after dodging things.
I suck at taking screenshots, but Roy dodged both axe-hits. He's currently on 17/18 HP (THIS IS IMPORTANT)
A very nice defensive level from counterkilling that fighter (and he needs the speed badly)..And then he gets hit by the other fighter (29%) and the archer for 17 damage. REWIND.
Vulnerary for 1hp to survive EP. (Also, I'm burning those Rapier charges disturbingly fast...)Re-get level, same EP happens, but that 1HP vulnerary saves Roy.Next 2 turns are just countering and healing.
More speed/avoid is always nice? Need some strength soon, though, or the boss-kill will be impossible.
Finishes the archer. Aggressive enemies dead, I can breath a sigh of relief!Baiting the fighter and stabbing/dodging.
I really can't complain at all about more speed (and 5 stats), but I'm going to be really sad if I have to reset because NO STRENGTH.
I remember there's a village, Old Man Marcus is on the case.Redundant Criticals!Sort-of-but-not-completely-redundant critical!
Roy moves up. The end is in sight!
$$$$$$$$$$$$ (Iron Sword fund)
On one hand, he's gotten speed and Luck on every level-up and he's amazing. On the other hand, STRENGTH PLZ
I decide to get ALance C because I can. This proves to be a great decisionLagging and learning on the bench confirmed.ROY'S OUR BOY. Let's finish the last scrubs on the map!Wolt and Bors make themselves useful as couriers. This might be the first time they've ever been useful to anybody in FE6 HM.AND THEN THIS HAPPENS. WHY ARE YOU EVEN GETTING SPD/LUK IF YOU CAN'T DODGE THINGS, ROY? (I might have gotten a little overly aggressive. Rewind!)Re-do. Roy still sucks at dodging things, but at least he's alive!
I forgive you for all your sins, Roy <3The Bench Mob chilling.This might take a while (I'm not healing. Would need 2 vulneraries to get out of OHKO range and I just wasn't bothered)
Bors delivers some much-needed supplies...
...since Roy somehow managed to break an Iron sword in the first chapter.
No save scumming necessary, he just dodged everything (this is a mostly recurring theme).
6 levels, +6 speed. I think I'm in love (but strength pleaseee)So strong with that 6-strength at level 7. S..so fast... though
Eliwood, always benchedYES PLEASE. I NEED MORE COMBAT UNITS!
NO!
LOL
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I actually didn't know how to do that and didn't bother to learn how to since I thought it would be a legit blind experience to play it like as though I got a new catridge. I kind of learned how to just by tinkering with an FE7 save.
Though if I did that now, would it overwrite my in-game saves? I haven't save-stated for FE6. Though I still probably won't do hard mode for the blind run, it would be good to know for other games.
My emulator/ROM knowledge is very limited. xD
Uhh, if you tried loading the save onto the same rom, it'd overwrite your old saves, yeah. If you wanted to use a save-file with HM unlocked though, you should just make another copy of your rom to play with that set of saves instead.
As for that chapter...yeah, FE6 has a lot of those subtle un-hinted at requirements such that you don't even know you're missing out on stuff.
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Yeah his growths aren't as amazing as you made them out to be. His bases are fantastic but idk how yours capped everything.
FWIW my (no stimulant) Heath cap rammed everything but defence at 20/20/10 pretty easily. It's a mixture of his fantastic bases, good-enough-offensive growths given that he has 42 levels to grow, and 2 sets of promotion bonuses shoring up his defenses and making up for those shaky growths there (40 levels on his 20% defence growth is +8 on average vs his base 10, then he gets +3 and +something on double promotion, giving him somewhere around average 21+ (not sure what his t3 promo bonuses are) vs his cap of 25 and defense is by far his weakest stat).
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I've done this on LHM/HNM before, it gets painfully difficult in the mid-game, when your lords hit cap but can't promote, especially since you're limited to using vulnenaries/elixirs to heal and have no way of dealing with status staves. You have to plan to minimize damage taken by your lords, and also unfortunately, your most front-line capable lord in Hector is locked in t1 all the way until after Cog. You might have to RNG-abuse/savestate somewhat, since if your lords (especially Eliwood's STR/SPD/DEF for the midgame) are screwed, you're in a really bad spot.
Some notably difficult chapters are: C12/13/13x, Four-Fanged Offense, Battle Before Dawn (it's pure RNG...), and Cog of Destiny (Valkyries and staves). When you reach endgame (VoD/Light and your lords hit 20/20 and max stats aren't exceptionally hard with their support triangle). Good luck!
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You have to complete the game once to use the Hard Mode.
But it's pretty easy to get a save file with HM unlocked :) I know I got one here on SF
FE6 ROY'S OUR BOY (Roy + Girls) HM LP
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Thank you!
Just you wait! I'm actually on C13 right now, a little backlogged with the updates, but Wendy is a tanky beast. I'm going to spend the next 7 chapters or so grinding up her axe rank for Armads...she definitely needs defense first to survive the Western Isles...bad offense can always be fed kills to, but bad defense on a front-liner is just asking to die
[spoiler=Chapter 9: Fir breaks Iron Swords, pt.1]