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    Character Hate Thread

    in Fire Emblem Fates

    Posted

    Severa is my most hated Fire Emblem character, so naturally I hate "Luna" too. I can't say I'm fond of Tharja or Cordelia either, so I'm not excited about their characters in Fates.

    Hinoka is really unlikeable too. She looks like a boy (spitting image of Otoya from UtaPri) and acts like boy too. Tomboys are gross and unlikeable.

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    What are your Planned S-Support pairings?

    in Fire Emblem Fates

    Posted

    Now that I had the time to look at some of the supports I have revised and added some things to my planned supports.....Still not 100% done though.

    Hoshido

    Male Corrin/Kamui X Yuugiri: Yep I'm sticking to this. I regret nothing! :wub:

    Silas X Mozume

    Sakura X Tsukuyomi: The only dude I'll let near her seriously she is like on 15! On the downside the product of their union is.....urgh.

    Saizou X Kagerou

    Takumi X Oboro: Finally a crush that can be requited!

    Kaze X Hinoka

    Ryoma X Aqua(?): Not very certain about this one.




    Nohr

    Male Corrin/Kamui X Mozume(?), Anna(?), or Flora(?): I cross this bridge when I finally get to it.

    Camilla X Zero: These two are so bizarre that they are almost made for one another.

    Nyx X Flannel: A very sweet and heartwarming support.

    Xander X Azura

    Harold X Felicia: Its really sweet! :3

    Elise X Silas: The only guys I let near her that wont leave me with a mind full of squick.




    The Invisible Kingdom

    Male Corrin/Kamui X Azura: This is the only path.



    Luna X Subaki: Oh the delicious irony!

    Odin X Kagerou

    Orochi X Lazward

    Still need to figure the rest out hahaha.


    Topic of Marriage, Supports, and Children.

    in Fire Emblem Fates

    Posted

    I agree. The more options, the better.

    People seem to forget that even in the games with limited support options, it isn't like all the supports were well-written.

    That does not excuse the poor quality of many of these supports. Just because something was not perfect in past installments does not mean the writers shouldn't try to improve them now.

    Topic of Marriage, Supports, and Children.

    in Fire Emblem Fates

    Posted

    ^ I agree.

    I feel maybe about 5 possible romantic supports and perhaps 5 for buddy/platonic connections would be a good number. As you mention context is important a history or familiarity between the characters serves a good foundation. There would be a less need to butt rush the writing.

    Honestly I would even extend this to the main characters as well in future games this whole self-insert/blank slate thing does more harm than good I think that IS should focus on creating well-rounded characters instead of this Waifuing system. Doing this would allow the players to connect and have a better understanding of such characters. Look at some of the supports for Kamui a lot of them feeling like they are playing it safe and don't have that spark that other match ups have because IS didn't give him/her that much of an identity.

    If I was going into anti-shipping goggles mode when putting Kamui's supports together with the mind set he/she is his/her own character it would look a little something like this...

    So lets say its one game two branching paths instead of three for example. And lets say Kamui is actually a 3 dimensional character.

    Lets use Male Kamui in this example his main supports would be mostly his siblings since Family was originally the main idea with Fates so in one path it would be the Hoshido siblings and in the other Nohr so that is 4 supports already.

    Now lets give him a few other like for Romantic one would obviously be Aqua(The game is quite vocal about this anyways), Felicia, and then two more depending on the route taking perhaps them being a man and a woman who are the Bi/Gay options. Then for others You could have Cyrus/Silas and Gunther. Right there you have 10 supports that you can give plenty attention to.

    And for Female Kamui you don't have to flip it over but could possibly give her a bit of a different roster if it adds replay value.

    This only and idea if I wanted something more concrete I would have spent a lot more time on it :P.



    Making Mikoto and Shinmei childhood friends / very distantly related instead of being siblings would be a good start.
    ^^^^^
    Yeah that is going to be fun.

    Topic of Marriage, Supports, and Children.

    in Fire Emblem Fates

    Posted · Edited by Iron Griffin

    Its clear from the get-go that there are way too many S-supports in Fates with most feeling rushed thanks to things like the child mechanic which I still feel was completely unnecessary for Fates. In addition there is a butt load of pandering with characters getting turned into romance options when really then they shouldn't be among these being the child characters and your siblings on both sides.

    I don't care if they are not really your blood turning them into more love interests screwed with the really awesome idea presented by Fates in the beginning

    Then there are the complaints of not enough husbandos and waifus or not enough bi options or not enough gay options or something that doesn't cater to a person's preference or some fetish which comes back to my other mentioned issues of trying to please everyone it become less about telling a good story with good characters and becomes more about "Oh look how cute this pairing is!" or "My little waifu is so moe I want to pet her and squeeze here and call her Debby!" or "Man why can't I see these two get together *pouts*".

    I feel that its crap like this that takes away from possible meaningful and deep connections with characters which is why I agree with those that say that there should be a limited number of romantic supports and possibly changes in the system that makes the growing bond more natural. Hell throw in some platonic relationships as well but in general make the supports have both weight and heart.

    Topic of Marriage, Supports, and Children.

    in Fire Emblem Fates

    Posted

    I wish romantic supports wouldn't always end up in marriage. It's so predictable at this point. I agree that romantic supports should be limited.

    I think making them more limited could open the possibilities for more interesting and meaningful supports especially if they hit the S-Rank. That is my opinion at least.

    Topic of Marriage, Supports, and Children.

    in Fire Emblem Fates

    Posted · Edited by Iron Griffin

    So it came down to mechanics? Weird I just wanted to read it out of curiosity. It doesn't bother me all that much anyways as I am not really a fan of Camilla anyways but its strange as Minischew said that you can only become close friends with two characters yet can romance a wide variety of folks.

    Character Hate Thread

    in Fire Emblem Fates

    Posted

    [spoiler=Soleil Hate]The thing that bothers me about Soleil is that I love her design so, so much, and her personality as well. Her insistence to continue smiling really reminds me that Lazward did a good job at fathering her, and that makes me happy.

    But the whole "I LOVE GIRLS SO MUCH I FAINT" thing is... overdone.

    That is what happens when you give a character a single trait. It goes from a amusing to absolutely irritating fast because of how over used it gets.

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