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1 hour ago, Troykv said:
Okay, I just want to mention the thing about Faerghus and the Church dissapearing from story as, actually erased, was an old mistranslation.
Faerghus and the Church just ended, their story as they were originally known ended, just like the Ottoman Empire ended, but it wasn't erase from history.
I just want to mention that, in fact, I actually helped to make this information being fixed; that translation comes from a Tumblr post, which was a huge Dimitri stan, and had a relatively bad opinion of Edelgard, but at least that person admited it was just a big mess, and she (I think it was a she) just assumed the end of their story as "erasing".
I dislike disinformation, regardless of if it's used against or for characters I like; this needs to be known as it was supposed to be known.
Alright thank you for clearing things up on that.
@omegaxis1 I'm aware of Roku and past avatars being wrong about certain stuff (in fact the comic has this with Aang putting his foot down against Roku on killing Zuko for the sake of the world and later on reconciling with him) but to say Roku and them were wrong when someone who was still ultimately a tyrant in how they wanted to enforce their vision/changes upon the OTHER places that were doing just fine is why Roku and the past avatars were right to do so. Also just because their divided doesn't equate to they can't be in harmony with one another a point which Iroh himself brings up as a balance and why he deeply regrets almost seizing the Earth Kingdom. But this is precisely why I all the more don't agree with Edelgard's need to seize control of the other territories.
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15 minutes ago, omegaxis1 said:
1. For one thing, commoners have been constantly under oppression from nobles for a very long time. However, the changes aren't immediate. It is gradual through use of education and having long term plans. It was explained by Edelgard in her support with Constance. It's a case where she is siphoning out the nobility by shifting things. It's why the nobles aren't immediately gone, as people love to nag on in regards to Edelgard.
However, let's actually think about some stuff that happened in Crimson Flower.
2. Now with Faerghus, you have to remember what happened at the very end. Rhea set Fhirdiad on fire. The civilians there, they were overall SAVED by Edelgard. To them, this was the moment when Faerghus basically no longer saw Edelgard as a villain, but a hero. Because to them, Edelgard saved them when Rhea went insane.
This is not even going into the fact that Edelgard also had been using much diplomacy into the case of how many nobles actually sided with her willingly before and during the war.
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Dude. The JP version says they met their end in history. They aren't FORGOTTEN. Like, geez, man. You can't erase it from history. Just as Rhea can't erase Nemesis and the Ten Elites as heroes from history. Because the people KNOW about it. So it's impossible for the Church and Kingdom to be erased. This is especially the case since the Church is restored in endings in CF.
1. Edelgard's notion of crests being to blame is by and far the same argument of guns being to blame when no it's people or in this case nobility as it has and always will to an extent in every Fire Emblem game. Also not every place has been affected by nobility in the way that you speak of to warrant any of them wanting a war that jeopardizes their lives the way it has. Dimitri's point of asking Edelgard there had to be a way to change things in her territory without affecting the other territories outside her jurisdiction is a valid criticism. I cannot recall any place being oppressed like how in Radiant Dawn Beginion treats the people of Daein to the extent that they did and look there's no crests (in a ironic way those who are branded being the crests are the ones looked down on) involved hence why Edelgard's point about crests is moot as nobility will find ways to justify themselves as being superior regardless. At least in Code Geass there was plenty of examples of how Britannia treated the Japanese/Elevens as they called them to be full on agreeing with Lelouch's war for Japan's independence because it wasn't just nobility but even other commoners of Britannia who treated the Japanese like trash.
2. I'm sorry but that's conjecture as we never have any showings of civilians perspective nor ever mentioned of them seeing her in such a light. The ending from what is said is that she yes makes Fodland a better place for the people but so do the other things endings but the fact of the matter is that she's the aggressor that entered Faerghus that was defending itself and to say that no one from Faerghus would view her in a negative view is ludicrous especially when the Ashe battle quote I posted is likely thee view point many surviving remnant soldiers and civilians would have and for all they know they would be within reason to logically believe she started the fire. Dragon Rhea doesn't even transform back to human form upon dying so where would she get her evidence of this is Rhea who transformed into the dragon that set the kingdom on fire. I still take issue with the other statement you made in the other thread about blaming Dimitri when he was within his rights to defend Faerghus from the invader and was taking to his responsibility as king unlike in the other paths with AM being the one where he comes back on track in getting his priorities straightened out.
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1 minute ago, Silver-Haired Maiden said:
I mostly agree. 3H has some downfalls in it's writing and I feel like one of them is that it completely overlooks how humanity really functions. Namely that we're creatures of habit, and forcing huge changes like Edelgard does in such a short time-span is historically going to cause massive problems.
There's a book, the name of which escapes me at the moment, that is about a time traveler being sent back in time to King Arthur's era where he gets in good with Arthur and then goes about changing basically everything about how the kingdom is ran until it's not even really a kingdom anymore, all in the service of helping the commoners have a better life. However, as soon as he's gone on a short trip, everything goes to absolute crap and when he returns the very people he busted his back to help took up arms against him. All because the change he instituted was too severe too fast and they wanted tradition over it.
That's exactly what I feel will happen with Edelgard's ending. Claude's too if it wasn't so vague, which actually helps it in this regard specifically. Basically, although Edelgard's intentions are good, her changes are too extreme and occur over too short a time period to actually stick. One disgruntled noble starting an uprising is all it would take to completely imbalance her and cause the destruction of everything she built up and I promise you that a disgruntled someone would exist due to her massive power and change shifts.
Of course at the same time, I feel like the endings were sort of meant to be "golden, best possible" endings for each respective route, so I usually tend not to delve too deeply into ripping them apart.
Yeah, you know that saying there's a easy way and a right way? I would say Edelgard's ending is the easy way as you say goes about it too extreme and fast which it does have its fair share of hardships during the course of the story but those hardships that will come back to haunt the Empire in the future for how they brought through force this change. Edelgard is without a doubt a well intention person who wants to give Fodland a brighter tomorrow, but I'm just reminded of Avatar the Last Airbender's Sozin in how he wanted to share his country's time of wealth and prosperity to the other nations through force too and we saw how that went and is in fact echoing back at Zuko as the Fire Lord now in the comics too in having to deal with the scrutiny the Fire Nation has because of their "war" that affected the world.
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The video delves into exactly why I don't consider the Crimson Flower ending to be the best ending aside from Silver Snow for Fodland. As brought up at some point in the future there will be a retaliation at some point as this change that Edelgard as Emperor reaches to giving other territories such as the Leicester Alliance and especially Faerghus was brought through force with her being the aggressor that initiated the war.
I say especially Faerghus due to the fact as mentioned in the ending it's wiped from the people's memory or as how apparently in the original Japanese translation it and the Church are erased from history. Whether this is due to Edelgard mirroring Rhea even more or she had no control over as after her passing those in the Empire wanting for them to not exist because as Edelgard herself states the other territories as offshoots of the Empire in not acknowledging they won their independence is up for debate but regardless the fact this happens is not a great thing to have to hear and would absolutely give to further resentment.
Ashe: Our pride, our people, our king. You've torned them all apart. Haven't you had enough?! What else is there for you to take?!
Me: Sadly enough your very kingdom's history too.
I love Edelgard as a antagonist as she's well written but I just cannot for the life of me root for her as a protagonist hero and Crimson Flower just didn't help things as the things she could have done as brought up in the video where Claude does take to doing in trying to learn the true history of Fodland as opposed to what she's told and just going with it. As much as she can be compared to Lelouch from Code Geass (I have some differing opinions on this as I do view Lelouch far more justified in his overall actions than I do Edelgard but that can be explained another day) in the other endings she is a martyr in them as she is a source of the people who hate her for causing the war and the causalities of loved ones who were affected by it and they would have every right to despise her for it and I think she does willingly accepts that on some level as she tells Byleth to kill her in VW to make it so but does for all intensive purposes would rather be the one to see things through to end for the world she envisions brought up by her own hands hence why she doesn't accept Dimitri's hand reached out to her in AM, but instead throws the dagger right back at him to still fulfill the oath of the dagger to not give in no matter what but also to tell Dimitri to do the same in throwing his words back to him. The dagger being not only her salvation in how she considered herself weak without it and why she thanks Dimitri for giving her a reason to keep on fighting and live, but tragically setting up things between them to go down the way they did when they could have worked together for a path of peace.
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13 minutes ago, Darkmoon6789 said:
I would say that the claim that either is entirely to blame or entirely in the right is ignoring the reality of warfare. Things are simply more nuanced than that. It is easy to play the blame game, but it is a pointless endeavour, I think the actions of both makes sense given the circumstances.
I have long made the claim that the only thing that matters in war is a victory, because history will nearly always perceive the winner as the good guys, historically only the losers ever face consequences for potential atrocities committed during a war, and nearly every nation is responsible for at least some. How history is written will determine how people like Dimitri, Edelgard, Claude or Rhea are remembered, and how that history will be told, will depend on who is still alive to write the history. Or do you think that the potential winners would be honest enough to write down what these people were really like without making them into caricatures?
How history is precisely written is what bothers me the most from Crimson Flower's ending as apparently the japanese translation was that the other two lands were wiped clean (I'll look for it again just to make sure) and it doesn't help that omega mentioned earlier that it was a historian's point of view about that which doesn't help but of course a nation's history never labels itself as the bad guy which the USA isn't the only one that has its own darkness like Japan and so forth but I don't want to get off topic.
Edit: (I need to call it a night)
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9 minutes ago, Darkmoon6789 said:
One reason I am not too crazy about Faerghus as a nation, we do seem the most steeped in tradition and unwilling to change.
I have been trying to understand things, is any truth to Edelgard's claim that the church has been trying to split up empire territories into smaller nations to make them easier to control? I can certainly see the logic behind that statement. And if true, how that could cause further and further division in future.
I see nothing wrong with unifying Fodlan under one leader as long as that leader is benevolent. The most important thing is the living standard of the majority of people. Faerghus isn't exactly brilliant, so I actually believe that life under Edelgard (CF) might actually be an improvement. But the path to get there was still very costly
Randolph joins the army to further his family status despite the fact from what we're told him and Fleche were doing fine. Randolph was doing it for glory and trying to reap the benefits after the war for his work. I'm not seeing how the Adrestian Empire doesn't have the same flawed tradition and glory seeking fools as any other country in a Fire Emblem game... this isn't just a Faerghus only thing. Edelgard has people who join her side for the benefits that come to the victor like that one blond noble from the Leicester Alliance.
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5 minutes ago, eclipse said:
The minute you bring up "siding with Edelgard" is the minute you miss the point of this topic.
I genuinely want to understand where he's coming from with Dimitri is to blame for harboring Rhea when as @Shanty Pete's 1st Mate stated before why it doesn't make a lick of sense of it being fair to say Dimitri is responsible for what happened to the kingdom. Like that gives Edelgard the complete justified right to come through Faerghus as she pleases to get her? That wouldn't slide irl where other people would find it abhorrent. If Dimitri was granting sanctuary to someone that had openly proven crimes against humanity than that would be a better case, but here it's Edelgard's word alone.
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14 minutes ago, omegaxis1 said:
See, as you bring it up, negotiations could have been on the table.
The problem though I realize in this hypothetical king scenario is whether such a rational king would exist given Faerghus's toxic culture.
I mean, he COULD. Just relay orders to the remaining men not yet transformed to NOT use the Crest Stones. But he pretty much complied and accepted the decision of the remaining soldiers transforming themselves.
Except Edelgard never brings up possible negotiations to our knowledge over the course of the apparent stalemate. Also what exactly is Faerghus toxic culture? Are you referring to the fact how they about chivalry when literally any nation ours too in real life is based on such a foundation of pride in one's country? There's nothing he can literally do about it, it's not like he can grab them from across the battlefield and slap sense into them. Them turning into monsters for the power boost is the equivalent to One Piece's Alabasta's 4 Elite Guards using the Hero's Water to die saving their king and country with their lives. Again I don't understand how you can side with Edelgard who is the aggressor no matter how you slice it she causes pain to the people of Faergus all because she doesn't at least try to have any open dialogue which is fine in character for her in how she's written but doesn't mean people have to like it and why they have a tough time supporting her methods.
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18 minutes ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:
I don't think that wording is entirely fair - Dimitri makes a choice that invites war, sure, but Edelgard still made the choice to invade. Dimitri could argue that he's harboring a victim of aggression - it was the Empire, after all, that launched the first strike against the Church. To not harbor Rhea would be to allow the Empire's agression (which Dimitri, and much of the Kingdom, views as wrong) to go unchecked. Obviously Edelgard has her reasons for starting the war, but she's at least as much to blame for war entering the Kingdom as Dimitri is.
On that I can agree with but just because the invitation is open doesn't mean you take it as Edelgard ends up being the aggressor which doesn't paint a pretty picture for how the rest of the world would see it.
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14 minutes ago, Axel987 said:
He's in it for revenge on Edelgard personally, that is a fact. He is also protecting his country from an invading force and working with a historical ally, also a fact, but let's not act like his motivations are entirely selfless.
As far as we know we have no idea if Edelgard has tried to negotiate with the Kingdom, although Sylvain -does- state that he thinks a peaceful resolution would not work out because of Edelgard/Hubert. He is also an inherently biased source given he grew up in the Kingdom himself though.
I didn't say it was wrong for them to defend themselves, I'm saying that -he- also inherently brought the war onto the Kingdom.
CF Dimitri is basically WC Dimitri if his mask wasn't -forced- to break. He's a lot calmer since he wasn't forced through the absolute bullshit he deals with in other routes, so I think that while still there, the 'boar' aspect of his character is a lot more refined. Heck to see it at all, Dedue has to turn into a literal monster and die, which is consistent with how Dedue -dying for him- is part of what ends up breaking him.
As I just stated both of them coincide but he doesn't lose his responsibilities to the crown as he did in other routes where he's unhinged to the point that he is reckless with his life and dies in one because of it and that's why Edelgard's statement of him losing his sight as king is flat out wrong.
Yes we don't know, but in not attempting to do so doesn't help put her in a good light and that doesn't invalidate Sylvain's point.
So you agree that he and the rest of the kingdom weren't wrong to defend himself? But he's to blame for why the kingdom ends up the way it does despite the fact again he's doing what all of his predecessors would have done given the agreement between the kingdom and the church which he is again following his responsibilities. Edelgard still made a choice to attack and Faergus is defending itself rightfully so, Edelgard had a choice and she didn't want to keep with this stalemate as she wanted Rhea no matter who she had to go through.
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2 minutes ago, Axel987 said:
He caused the war to enter Faerghus territory by offering asylum to and later allying with the church in CF. Edelgard's goal has always been to take out the church first and foremost, with unifying Fodlan as a secondary objective at best. I'm not saying he's wrong for doing so, but you also have to acknowledge that he did end up causing the war to enter his homeland.
The problem with your argument there is that she also goes after the Leicester Alliance which doesn't. Also we're never given nothing of a indication that Edelgard has talked to sending Dimitri a letter about handing over Rhea for such and such crimes. Dimitri is doing what all his predecessors would have done because from what he knows Rhea and the church people are in danger for something they may or may not have done. Also when did it become wrong for the nation being attacked to defend itself?
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10 minutes ago, omegaxis1 said:
Again, and shatter literally everything he believed in? He literally spewed to her face that he will kill her for killing his father and her mother. He was explicitly blaming her for the Tragedy of Duscur. If she tells him she didn't do it, and say he believes her in a hypothetical scenario, guess what? His belief is utterly shattered, and what did he do? He caused a war to enter his nation. Rodrigue died (and so did his friends unless they joined Edelgard), and Dedue died after turning into a monster, and his own soldiers turned themselves into monsters for him.
Where are you getting this he causes a war? There's already a war going on before hand that Edelgard declares when Rhea retreats to Faergus.
Edelgard is the only one that declares war in every single path of 3H this does not change. Also you know full well Dimitri wasn't for Dedue along with the soldiers becoming monsters though they volunteered this was behind Dimitri's back as the rest of the soldiers viewed it to be their last stand to protect their king and the kingdom. Dimitri doesn't like it but the damage has been done already. Rodrigue and the rest died in trying to protect their home as they tried protecting it long before Dimitri was found in Azure Moon which I repeat again Felix says it best to Byleth in Azure Moon why they fight.
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13 minutes ago, omegaxis1 said:
Explain for... what?
To shatter his beliefs? That he literally dragged his nation to a war, killed countless people, and caused his own soldiers to turn themselves into monsters, all for a misguided belief? If Dimitri was able to listen to reason, then Edelgard did something far crueler. She made him realize that he did all this for nothing. That his beliefs amounted to naught.
Remember what Edelgard said about Lonato? That pitying him and labeling him as merely a victim, when he died for his beliefs, is truly the most disrespectful thing.
Edelgard would rather Dimitri die believing he was right than to die knowing how much he screwed up. Even though the act of what she did afterward was gutting at her heart.
That's the thing. Dimitri and Edelgard both fought for their beliefs.
Edelgard doesn't know the full truth about Rhea, and thus sees has as a monster that manipulated humanity for her own selfish purpose. Dimitri didn't know that Edelgard was innocent of the Tragedy of Duscur.
They are bound by their own form of reality. And that reality is their beliefs, and that they staked everything on. They piled so many corpses on it, and would stake their lives into that belief.
Explain where she was in all of this instead of saying had nothing to do with it when like or not from Dimitri's pov (the audience themselves too if AM was their first path) she just had a conversation with those that slithered that said they did it all for her so she can rise up.
Also calling him "King of Delusion" was a disrespectful quip all that was needed to say was farewell Dimitri nothing more nothing less. Also you do realize that Dimitri and the rest of Faergus as Felix and the rest (church included in joining forces) say they joined Dimitri not out of love for the fool but because the Imperial Army and what it is doing needs to be stopped as they plunged the land into a war. They were fighting the Imperial Army before finding him so either way it made no difference.
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9 minutes ago, Crysta said:
Edelgard is not an egregious villain by FE standards. Her moves are more calculated and cold than atrocious and cruel. There's no evil laughter or overextended monologues.
I would argue the closest to that from Edelgard is her about to kill Dimitri in her telling him "Farewell King of Delusion" which was a unnecessary quip the same applying to Dimitri calling Randolph a monster when both should have just killed them and be done with it. Though actually with that said I'm aware Crimson Flower has some mistranslations though the Edelgard pretty much no you response still wasn't any better from what I saw in the actual translation in Japanese where as Azure Moon's Edelgard telling Dimitri he has no idea how the poor feels of what motivates them being nobility when she herself is too in being baffling was better explained in the actual translation.
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10 minutes ago, omegaxis1 said:
At this point, I'm just tired of that argument. Honestly, I shouldn't have to feel the need to defend every bit of action, but seems that stans of all sides HAVE to take a shot at every negative of opposing lords.
Dimitri also confesses to having killed children, but BL stans have always tried to argue the context and instead insist that Dimitri is justified.
Also, one cruel thing is how there's a domino effect in 3H, where one mistake sets forth a chain of events.
Dimitri wanted to torture Randolph to death led to Byleth being forced to kill him as a mercy, and that made Fleche seek revenge, which led to Rodrigue's death.
Edelgard allowing Thales to take the Death Knight resulted in Flayn's kidnapping, which resulted in the experiment in Remire. Edelgard tried to correct her mistake when Flayn had been kidnapped, but it doesn't change that her mistake led to tragedy, and the later one where Monica got inserted and Jeralt was killed.
Well you know Dimitri and Edelgard have the right to defend themselves or any person for that matter if their life is in jeopardy especially when it's the battlefield or attempted assassination kids included sad as it is. Reason why I ultimately get her killing Dimitri in Crimson Flower, what I didn't approve of was her taunting Dimitri when that was the information he had the time and her not explaining to him fully there as he was a king that was defending his country from the person who raged war in being the invader though that why in itself I don't for the like of me understand that line from Edelgard afterward with her saying that Dimitri lost sight of his path as king like.. what? When Crimson Flower is literally him having not gone insane in losing his path as king in being so obsessive with revenge that it makes him lose his responsibilities to the crown like the other routes just that him killing Edelgard and defending his kingdom coincide here which he was in his right to do so as any king should for their kingdom. Though hey another comparison between the two of them in being foils with Edelgard to Dimitri in CF and Dimitri to Randolph in AM.
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8 minutes ago, Crysta said:
Yes, I'm aware that you're fine with Dimitri being cruel and dumb because he's irrationally hellbent on revenge, and you're apt to overlook his previous mistakes and shortcomings - which actually strike me as far more self-destructive and potentially dangerous to his own people than anything Edelgard has done until that point - because he gets better. I'm less thrilled about how easily everyone but Dimitri himself forgives himself for it.
This thread, like the billion before it, is fixated on Edelgard and how she's wrong. I'm bringing up how Dimitri is wrong, since apparently we're having difficulty arguing about something else somehow.
I'm not fine with it like how I'm not fine with him taunting Randolph though jerkass had a point and should have just killed him to be done and over with it instead of torturing him which is what Byleth proceeds to do. I pointed out why it led him the way it did in the Gronder fight and why it wasn't a narrative OOC moment as opposed to Claude there in that battle. Last I check everyone agrees that Dimitri is off the deep end in AM and VW including his fans, no one is defending his actions just simply makes sense. I don't get why you can't come to terms with that.
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8 minutes ago, Crysta said:
It certainly is dumber for the narrative. He wants the shortest route to Edelgard's head and has little interest in taking the time to communicate with Claude further when Edelgard is marching towards them. Sure, the narrative doesn't spell it out for you right then and there, but I don't think it has to.
He gets better, but it's important to remember that the Boar persona is still very much the other Dimitri half. Or at least that's what the story and Dimitri stans tell me, that the voices are still there and he still struggles with them. He doesn't get a pass because he was allowed to be a murder hobo and later gets a chance to redeem himself because Rodrigue takes a stab for him lol
When you're obsess with revenge you don't think rationally especially when you've been alone for 5 years on the run with assassins some of whom tried gaining your trust only to backstab you to then not being able to trust even prior allies fully. Also remember before that chapter in Azure Moon they come across Lorenz a Golden Deer/Leicester Alliance member the same as Claude who was their enemy in that fight as far as Dimitri is concerned that piles up on him not wanting to chance allying with Claude as to him probably just another obstacle that's keeping him away from his goal Edelgard.
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1 minute ago, Darkmoon6789 said:
Not my Edelgard anyway, Bernadetta is fine. I don't know the full context of this line. Havn't finished Azure Moon, but it is irrelevant to Crimson Flower Edelgard, not fair to blame a girl for something that never happened in her timeline
Er... but it happens after Bernadetta dies which it depends on your view of it like say if you don't approve of Edelgard burning Bernadetta's corpse when she should be given a proper burial instead.
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3 minutes ago, Crysta said:
Claude has already moved his troops to distract Gloucester. The only way he's aware of the Kingdom army is because they've already notified him of their existence and intentions: this is missing in VW and Claude isn't even aware Dimitri is alive, hence why Gronder makes more sense in that route. He's aware of Dimitri in AM.
The second messenger is presumably the official allying up, but the Kingdom has already been assisted by the Alliance and it's pretty out of character of Claude to suddenly decide to murder the messenger.
Can't say I'm surprised that we're dismissing Dimitri's mistake due to clear narrative shortcomings, but it's like... still there.
It's not a narrative short coming from Dimitri, it's in character if you paid attention to how his character has turned out after the timeskip the same way Edelgard can't find it in herself to trust people that could have made a lot of blood not having to have been spilled the way it did but she's trying to make sure she can reach her goal just like Dimitri can live for his goal which she too is in character. One fine example of how they're foils of each other.
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12 minutes ago, Crysta said:
Are we just gonna ignore me pointing out what is likely the most blatant example of a lord ignoring communication and common sense due to his own personal shortcomings and selfishness, which is an action that could potentially get most of an allied army killed? We're more bothered by what Claude does?
Except for Dimitri there it wasn't OOC with the information we are given earlier about his paranoia to him telling Gilbert his "my enemies say the same" as we know that apparently he has had assassins after him some in which probably were friendly in gaining his trust where as Claude is OOC for a man who talked about being a perceptive tactician, if he had waited but Edelgard set up a trap where him and the rest of his army has no choice but to move forward which then causes confusion among the Blue Lions army in making them fearful (like a random npc solider can't take the pressure attacks in fear) they are about to be pincer-ed attacked excluding Dimitri than it would make sense due to a misunderstanding caused by Edelgard to make the two begin fighting as Claude would have no choice for himself and his army to defend themselves and vice versa.
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6 minutes ago, omegaxis1 said:
Instead, all we get is people going, "EDELGARD SET BERNADETTA ON FIRE!"
Which then I can get for why either maybe Claude or Dimitri's armies thought or vice versa it was them that did that, but yeah not exactly helping too much to paint it as a well written 3 way battle. Though I think Dimitri makes sense to be everyone is my enemy as he does say this earlier about even those that call themselves his ally. Claude's the one that makes no sense what so ever like if anything him waiting to see how things play out is what he should have done which HE EVEN MENTIONS but then later on changes his mind instead to okay let's move in like... what? I could get him moving in if there was a trap that activated on his side of map that forces him and the rest of his side to go forward which causes Dimitri's army to worry that they're getting flanked by both sides.
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5 minutes ago, omegaxis1 said:
Lorewise, Claude indicates that it's us attacking them when he talks to Byleth. To be honest, I hate Gronder Field in both AM/VW. For all the hype it had, it was underwhelming as a story, and horrible as a map.
From what I hear it was apparently suppose to be a fog of war map which... would make a lot of sense if you consider the cutscene to it even has fog and than you have Edelgard mentioning how both of the opposing armies won't be able to tell who is friend or foe.
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11 minutes ago, eclipse said:
But my point to you that I've based my argument on in making is not all lack of communication equates. And as you yourself said minor ones get resolved throughout supports and they're not earth-shattering like a full blown war. Of course it drives a lot of characters as that's human nature to have misunderstandings, but a misunderstanding that could have been avoided in at least trying is why I give a lot of credit to Dimitri in Azure Moon with him having a civil conversation with Edelgard as it's a upstanding moment for his character arc in how he himself found the right path again.
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1 minute ago, Quillmonger said:
Um Claude and Dimitri in Golden Deer.
Except we know Dimitri is crazed and dies of it do due his recklessness. Where as Claude if I recall doesn't he try? Heck he even tells Edelgard he doesn't want to kill her to try and patch things up. How exactly can Claude's be put in a worse light? Unless you're referring to him keep secret about his heritage but that doesn't really throw Fodland into a state of chaos as the other two girls that I mentioned.
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