Nastynas

I see, I forgot that the archer's in hard mode dropped chest keys, since in normal mode the 2 soldiers don't, so i only had the 1 spare key from ch.7. He was able to send volke off to the right for the statue frag. He even talked to all of prisoners, impressive. That is a great guide for hard mode thanks for posting it!

I would like to see it, to see what i did differently. I honestly think its impossible to get within 12 turns though.

Oscar also stands around for 1 turn after grabbing the chest, so you could use him once. But he does have 2 turns to kill if you skip say the Javelin in the upper left chest. When i did it oscar 2 shotted him with his counter attack, but im doing a transfer run on normal mode(random) and my oscar was lvl 20.

Uhm if i remember right, ike sat around for a turn or 2, while volke was opening chests and marcia went to open neph's door. So you should be okay.

Yeah i read the perfect playthrough thread, it is quite the task in which requires more patience than i have. I just want 1 really good playthrough before i get into Radiant Dawn. You should try the Elven Legacy games, they are insanely challenging to get gold on every map, but im sure you would like them.

That is a bit overkill to what is needed lol. What makes that easy is the fact of having infinite turns to do so.

I have seen that guide as well, however it takes 29 turns and the only difference is the 1 statue frag. I wanted the 300 bonus exp for completing it in 12 turns, so i spent alot of time trying to figure out if it were possible. To my surprise it did, after figuring out that you only need to open the 2 cell doors to get the characters to join.

There is only space for the 2 mounted units on turn 7 and 8 to get past undetected. I wish we could have been able to get maniac mode, i would have loved to play on it.