even looking at fates - which I'd say is the worst of it for this - I have issues seeing it as wank fodder, but maybe my threshold for what constitutes rank fodder is more overt. like, yeah, there's some provocative and questionable design and it's filled with shallow anime cliches but it's like minor elements not really an overarching theme in the game
i'm not entirely sure how one could argue the other games are presented that way