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I would also like to know if this is still happening. The Discord links here are expired. Really interested, this has been a dream project of mine for some time, but I've never had the free time to learn FE romhacking till now.

I've been wanting to remake 6 and/or 7 using 8's engine as a first mod for a while now. But I've always been too busy to take the time to learn how to do so.

I give this game a lot of crap myself, but I still enjoyed it. Do I regret buying all 3 paths? Maybe just a little bit. That being said, most of the complaining I do about Fates is less about the actual quality of the game as it is about lamenting that it wasn't everything a lot of what it could have been.

That's because hand-axes were E-rank back in the day.

I wanna get in on this Fate/ in Fates action. Rider (King of Conquerors) Nohrian. With a thundering warcry this warrior crushes all who would hinder his dreams of conquest under a mighty chariot gifted by the gods themselves. Weapons: A-Swords, B-Axes (doesn't canonically use axes, but they fit better than S rank swords) Skills: Lv1 (Conqueror) - This unit takes no bonus damage. Lv10 (Canto) - Leftover MOV can be used after performing an action. Lv25 (Noble Charge) - This unit and allies within 2 spaces gain leftover MOV as damage dealt. Lv35 (Dreamchaser) - HP/2 % chance of adjacent allies gaining +(MOV/2) to all stats at the beginning of either turn (until end of turn). Stats: (not quite motivated enough to put together complete stats right now) HP: 70 Str+ Mag- Skl- Spd= Lck= Def+ Res= MOV: 8 Ddg+10 Mounted, Beast, Mechanical (Golem/Puppet)

I would definitely say Fomortiis after Ashera. Like the other people here have said, he isn't even at full power when you fight him.

The decision to make 2 separate games came very early on in the development process. They could have saved themselves the trouble of putting so much effort into 70 chapters by making a single game that has the normal number of chapters and is polished significantly better. They could have conveyed the story perfectly fine without that many chapters. I acknowledge their effort, but I complain because a good portion of it feels like wasted effort. This is just my opinion, but I have a lot more beef with Fates than just its story. I still like the game, but whenever I play Fates I find myself cringing every 15 minutes because it could have been SO much better...

This is true, however; myself and a good deal of the people I know all agree that there was no reason (gameplay-wise) to divide this one story separate pieces in the first place except to squeeze more money out of us. Like I said before, I definitely acknowledge how much effort went into these games, but I think they could have given us better content while putting in less effort if they hadn't tried what they did. It's not so much that the games themselves are limited to being a cash-grab as it is that that one crucial decision in the development process was for the purpose of grabbing our cash.

Most of the things everyone has said I agree with. Particularly in that Pokemon uses the multiple versions to encourage multiplayer, while at the same time being made with minimal effort. The separate versions of Fates each required a great deal of effort that could have been spent polishing more important things. It's not even like this is an entirely new idea that IntSys is using here. Sacred Stones's layout of having the player choose to go with either Eirika or Ephraim would have worked just fine in Fates. We still end-up fighting Garon at the end of the game, Takumi's possession still happens just at different points in the story. There is no reason that the 2 paths couldn't have converged at the end (IMO). IntSys made an extremely poor decision that resulted in making their job harder than it needed to be at the expense of more important features than having 2 separate games. I still agree with your main point, I just can't believe that IntSys has looked back and actually examined what things they've done in the FE games that came out before Awakening have worked.

The reason people are complaining is that the quality of the game is poor. Making 3 separate games is an extremely ambitious project, and I applaud them for that ambition. However, we, the consumers, don't want 3 mediocre games. We only ask for 1 game that gets about half as much effort as IntSys put into the 3 games cumulatively. People call Fates a cash grab because because IntSys deliberately chose to prioritize quantity over quality when they decided to make 3 games in the first place.

What bothers me about how eclipse was responding is that she wasn't addressing anything that was actually going on in the discussion. She was just saying "No, because Cipher is separate from Fates." (in a really rude way) I was not aware of the pixelized content from last year, so yes, that part makes more sense now. I personally am still going to hold on to my hope for the reasons that I stated in my very first reply. However, as I have said over and over, a reason to hope is not a reason to get excited. There is a significant difference.

No. You're not getting off on a case of "I don't like this conversation". The OP shows pictures and the question: "A Roy and Sigurd sprite appears 3 times on the promotional material. Could both characters be coming to Fire emblem fates as DLC?" It's still a question. You're still ignoring the entirety of my post except for the first sentence. I understand how frustrating it is to see misinformation get spread around, but "someone claiming that something will inevitably happen" and "people speculating whether or not a desirable outcome is likely" are completely different things. Hence why I said that anyone who neglects to take what is said here with a grain of salt can only blame themselves if they get let down. The most we can do for a person like that is share our reasonings for why or why not they should be getting excited and let them decide from there. If someone still refuses to give up on a lost cause then you'll be a much more pleasant person if you move on with your life and let them be disappointed by what unfolds. I also understand that since you're a mod you might not have the luxury of just not looking at threads that bother you. Even so, there are better ways of taking out your frustration than by being nasty to people, and I don't plan on just rolling over and taking it despite how much I appreciate the work of forum mods. Now one last time, I will try to have an intelligent conversation over whether or not this is a reason to hope. Regarding your assumption that this is only tangentially related to Fates at best: the white bag and the pen (2 of the 3 items this discussion is focused around) have no shown logos of Cipher at all. If it wasn't at an event for Cipher, then there would be no reason to draw any connection to Cipher in the first place. As I've already stated (and am still waiting for someone to correct me if I'm wrong) Cipher doesn't use sprites. Furthermore, not only are they sprites which already puts a distance from Cipher, but the others beside Roy/Sigurd are the exact same ones used in Fates. You're free to disagree if you like, but I wouldn't call that a tangential relationship by a longshot. Moving on, you say that Cipher and Fates have very little business being together, but they irrefutably have significantly more to do with each other than Fates and Smash do. Despite that fact, we already had the latter 2 things come together. If you want to state your opinion in response to the points that I make in my post, then that's fine but I will not stand around while someone dismisses an entire viewpoint without even addressing the supporting statements of the person they are quoting. I apologize if I've crossed the line here, but I'm trying to make a point at how immature you're being. What you do with that knowledge is up to you. EDIT: Also, sorry to anyone whose desire to participate in the conversation has been hindered by this.

Aaaand there goes the last of my faith in humanity IntSys.

I know how you feel, but you still only have yourself to blame if you bought the amiibo just for a game that the amiibo is listed as incompatible with on the official site.

* I'm pretty sure you'll never get an opponent that your lead unit deals 0 damage to. I've had some really low numbers, but never 0 on the lead unit. I don't have a lot of confidence in IntSys anymore, but I don't think they'd let the arena screw anyone over like that. But yeah, there are better options available. ** I'm 99% positive that skills regarding a character's position in relation to other units on the map have no effect. As an example, Dragon Ward has never ever proc'd for me in the arena; presumably because it affects "adjacent units" regardless of whether they're being supported.