Emperor Hardin

The problem was they spread the clone movesets poorly, especially with the weapon triangle limitations and Shadow Dragon as a supposed focus game. War Cleric and Great Knight don't leave alot of clone potential, especially the former. Fighter, Lance Cavalry and Armor would give so much more clone potential, its not even funny. Lissa and Frederick also aren't notable enough to deserve 100% unique movesets in my personal opinion.

Wouldn't that be Naga worshippers vs Grimleal in Awakening?

Most things in Awakening were left unexplained. Link to the Past had Ganon ruin an entire world and turn dozens of people into monsters also brainwshing the King's army after killing the king. Adventure of Link has a ruined Hyrule and a Zelda being betrayed by her own family. Is it though, Awakening has timetravel which basically allows them to undo any loss?

He obviously did alot of philanthropy and community service during the in the between years. Didn't they say that was due to her spending most of her life in the world beyond the Dragon's gate?

Also Majora's Mask wasn't dark, it had tons of silly stuff like Tingle and talking cyborg Beavers, and Link does stop the moon from falling.

@Nym If anything, Awakening gains nothing by being in the same world as Archanea and Jugdral. We've already talked about how how nothing has advanced either, including society.

Well "not done particularly well" applies to most things in Awakening's story, I'd argue. The taguel are another huge unresolved plot thread? The only real solution I can think of is they actually came from another world in the outrealm gate and only Panne's group in Ylisse were killed by bandits rather than the entire species, Panne simply being too young to understand their history.

Its revealed by a mindcontrolled Aversa in the main story that his goal was to exterminate the Grimleal. Lucina compares him and Chrom's dad in the main story as well. Pheros says Walhart is anti religion as well, hinting this goal. And yes, it was rushed like nearly everything in Awakening, but the comparison is clear.

It should be noted, Fire Emblem Warriors choice of characters were very controversial in Japan, Awakening isn't one of the most popular FE games in Japan. Shadow Dragon fans also felt left off even though it was supposedly a focus game.

The game directly compares the anti Grimleal crusade by Ylisse to Walhart's crusade against the Grimleal. Walhart is depicted as the most sympathetic of the antagonists and the Grimleal are never humanized at any point, being even worse than the Loptous cult.

That doesn't state he died on the battlefield, just that his death ended the crusade. He could've also died from illness and suicide. I'm not particularly big on the First Exalt either, who was a very sloppily written character, but I don't see what a Chrom's father prequel would do? We already know he tried to kill the Grimleal, failed miserably, got many innocents killed due to incompetence, he became hated due to his ineptitude, the Grimleal got away and than he died.

You wouldn't even need to change the map given how inaccurate it is. @TheSilentChloey When was it implied their father died on the battlefield? All in all, I don't see a need for a prequel with Chrom's father because we already got a repeat of him through the Valm Arc. Someone using extremist means to stop the Grimleal, Lucina even compares the two men directly.

Medeus is never coming, huh? Kurthnaga is something, I suppose.

According to the Art of Awakening, it was specifically against the Grimleal. The Japanese version of the script also specifies it was a religious war, likely why the english translated it as crusade. Anyhow the First Exalt is more worthy of focus, I feel.

I disagree, the three Shadow Dragon appears with no real story presence in chapter 14 which has no relation to Shadow Dragon and the next stage being an explicit reference to Awakening. Any FE characters would've worked there. That isn't correct either, Marth is referenced only with Lucina's disguise and one single piece of dialogue in a Tiki/Robin support, everything else they talk about the First Exalt. They don't even remember what Marth did in Ylisse's time.

Oh and if you get a Elysian whip, FalcoKnight is good for her sword rank too. The HP/Defense from Dracoknight is nice, but sword rank will probably be more useful in the long run. That said most of her levels should be spent on Cavalier/Paladin given the higher HP, STR and DEF growth.

Sure. I'd make a bit of use of Cecile's sword rank if its still good. Rody will have better stat ups as a Paladin than Dracoknight, but a thing to remember in FE12 is you're going to be changing alot, especially before you reach your stat caps. There are classes that are good for leveling up but aren't good final classes like Hero and General.

That applies to nearly every game and Rowan/Lianna aren't even exiled, if anything twin lords is entirely Sacred Stones and nothing from Shadow Dragon. Now if they were exiled to an island nation, than you might have a point, but they weren't so you don't. Think about the general plot. A singular Divine Dragon, instead of a bunch being known, that is worshipped as the Divine Dragon like a title instead of a species just like in Awakening. A Dragon without a Manakete form that possesses a human just like Awakening contrast the chatty Medeus who never possessed anyone. A table specifically just for reviving Dragon just like in Awakening and unlike in SD where the altar doesn't show up or MoTE where the Altar is for holding Dragons. A world tree just like Awakening's Mila tree, there are no locations based on anywhere from Shadow Dragon. A Shield that needs to be completed by the villains to revive the villain unlike the Binding Shield which needed to be kept apart by the villains. The plot closely follows Awakening, not Shadow Dragon.

With your build, leveling as a Fighter or Pirate may get +2 HP on a level up as your HP growth rate will be 130%. You'll have 50 Speed growth as a Fighter and 70 Speed as a pirate. Hero isn't that great of a final class in the end game, but you're not on lunatic and not close to capping your stats, so probably not to worry. May be worth noting that Berserker is one of the best classes, including final classes, within the game. With class merges on, Lukas makes a great mercenary in the early game before going Horseman or Swordmaster. Ryan can make a great hunter on Lunatic. Rody will be switching in and out of Armored Knight and Cavalier in lunatic. Speaking of which, Draug is a godsend on lunatic where his ability to switch in and out of cavalier, Knight and Dracoknight will make him one of the best units in the player's army. I'd probably stick Cecilie as a Cavalier for HP and defense, then do some levels as a General when she promotes for more HP and defense as her speed is high enough that she'll still get good levels as a General.

Oh I forgot about Eliwood being a perfect fit for Xander's moveset. Plus Axe Armored Knight could kinda fill the fighter void like in TMS. This is complete nonsense, the only thing from Shadow Dragon in Warriors is the enemy army having Manaketes in it Nearly the entire story is based wholly on Awakening with lords similar to the Sacred Stones siblings, even the Emblem is based off the vague Awakening incarnations. I can even do a long list of the close parallels between Awakening and WarriorsLandia.

What kind of choices did you make for your Avatar's stat growth? With some of the extremely fast female units such as Caeda, it might be good to have them take a few levels in the General class for some DEF and STR level ups.

Lets face it, Shadow Dragon was an afterthought in the final game with little presence, much less characters, no stage influence and often had inaccuracies the rare times it did appear. Not to mention, there wasn't alot of room for clones from the series given the abundance of major characters in it that are Lance Cavaliers and to a lesser extent, Knights. So with this in mind, what game do you think would've gotten more representation if it had been chosen as the focus game. You can come up with three new movesets to replace Marth and Linde's movesets.i Me, I'd cover Tellius, mainly Path of Radiance but with a bit of Radiant Dawn (similar to how some of the only SD elements in FE:W were actually MoTe). I think that'd allow Ike with a new moveset and the Black knight and/or a Laguz like Ranulf or Tibarn as the next moveset. I'm thinking Titania (Frederick), Soren (Robin) and Mist (Elise) would work as clones. A stage based off the Tower of Guidance would be very cool. Marth could still have appeared, just as a guest with a clone moveset like Lyn was in the final game. And I guess if you stretch it, Tiki could still appear as the Awakening version.

Hey the NES games had a lot of ingame lore and world building, moreso then Awakening, I'd argue.

@Mercakete Another thing I remembered that you might want to know is Henry mentions seeing a symbol in Algol's base in the evil orphanage/academy that his parents sent him to, this could imply it was a Grimleal institution. Whilst Henry mentions seeing Grimleal practices, he also says that he doesn't believe in gods or religion when talking to Libra. This implies Henry tolerates the Grimleal but isn't part of them.

Despite its flawed execution and arguably story breaking aspects, I have to admit I did find recruiting boss and generic units very fun! I do wish the bosses were more developed though. I wanted to say, I've been really enjoying your thread.