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  1. The game is genius in its symbolism. It's a pity it flew over so many people's heads. The reason Takumi is the final boss is because the true evil is hate and Takumi represents just that. What pushed people to war in Fates was not Garon but their hate. Even when Corrin refuses to follow Garon's orders to kill the prisoners of war they literally ask to be killed themselves. They hate you so much that they prefer to die than be your prisoner. Some even commit suicide. This is why war happens in Fates. There is no such evil thing as fighting a war. Hate is the only thing that's evil. Three houses also followed up on that theme in AM and CF. Hubert's input on that was genius: "When I was a child, I feared such trivial things as divine punishment and grudges held by the dead. These days, I fear zealots and grudges held by the living instead." Continuing from the last thread, I want to hear others' opinion on this. What do you think about my interpretation?
  2. The game is genius in its symbolism. It's a pity it flew over so many stubborn people's heads. The reason Takumi is the final boss is because the true evil is hate and Takumi represents just that. What pushed people to war in Fates was not Garon but their hate. Even when Corrin refuses to follow Garon's orders to kill the prisoners of war they literally ask to be killed themselves. They hate you so much that they prefer to die than be your prisoner. Some even commit suicide. This is why war happens in Fates. There is no such evil thing as fighting a war. Hate is the only thing that's evil. Hate, such as what so many fools have for a video game that challenged their preconceptions. Three houses also followed up on that theme in AM and CF. Hubert's input on that was genius: "When I was a child, I feared such trivial things as divine punishment and grudges held by the dead. These days, I fear zealots and grudges held by the living instead."
  3. Yep, this is completely false as I imagined. Did you seriously miss that Garon is a slime? He's not a "cartoonishly evil" character, he is literally a plot device slime of the manipulator. He is meant to show that even something as obvious as that will still be enough to push good people that however hate each other to organised murder. It shows why this kind of good Vs evil hate that they are doing is wrong. Hans is hardly "evil". He is a great example of the average "I was just following orders" soldier who will present actually sound reasoning for what they do, which may be immoral, but it just doesn't matter because it's a war. You can't blame the other person for being evil for killing people while your hands are red with blood. Indeed, Corrin is not actually being worshipped or leading on their own. They are following orders throughout the entirety of Conquest. After chapter 16 they invade Hoshido and become part of Garon's army. They have the same objective and are following their orders. If you missed that I seriously doubt what you understood of the game at all. And yes, the game absolutely is a phenomenal deconstruction of the genre of good Vs evil wars in fantasy. Late CQ Chapters such as 23 might as well be the peak of the series. Conquest shows what it truly looks like to the people fighting on that evil side. It's a moral burden that you could never be able to bear, which is why you are so offended by Conquest and how it asked you such difficult moral questions.
  4. Damn some people here seem to be absolutely OBSESSED with Fates. I mean, they said it already. "Don't get me started on that" like, are we not allowed to argue something else in fear you will have a meltdown? What the kind of "diacussion" is this and why is it allowed to say toxic shit like that? That person is literally ranting on and on about how nobody is allowed to disagree with them and derailing the discussion. The mods should get a hold of things before they manage to destroy the thread with their intolerance and toxicity
  5. Not really, in both Conquest and Revelations they follow Azura and in Conquest Corrin is the butt end of Nohr's army until they prove themselves in Chapter 15. "The fire emblem community" that has been claiming completely untrue bullshit like that Corrin is being worshipped (except from their retainers whose is literally their job to) are just really really stupid, to say the least. Fates is one of the better FE games in the series and Conquest is probably the single best game. Not only it perfected the gameplay formula but it also had a story that deconstructed the series's basic premises about good Vs evil war.
  6. Byleth is also there to stop Dimitri from charging and they blow their cover when they are heard talking to each other. Byleth isn't there on the other routes. It's a stretch to say the scene would cut like what you are saying to deceive the players. Why would they do something like this for just this one scene? To hide from us the reason Dimitri hates Edelgard? When was he attacked by a dagger?
  7. BL version: https://fedatamine.com/en-us/scenarios/110 BE: https://fedatamine.com/en-us/scenarios/109 GD: https://fedatamine.com/en-us/scenarios/111 He is not there to witness that scene in the other routes. We can tell because the scene unravels differently when Dimitri is there and he tries to attack them from the shadows. Also his dialogue in the monastery in the following chapter is different. In BL he starts hearing voices, he was evidently disturbed by something, but on the other routes he is still the usual. That's a cool assumption to make but it's contradicted in the game.
  8. Hapi says the empire nobles were already preparing for war. This is why they made Edelgard with the crest of flames experiments, as a "peerless emperor to rule Fodlan", according to Edelgard. Then Ferdinand talks about the nobles wanting to unify Fodlan, and the librarian NPC saying they saw the others as traitors for rebelling. Then you have Arundel and Cornelia who already plan to take over Fodlan from the inside and have already big reach into two of the three counties. And of course Rhea herself who admits the way she manipulated people might have something to do with them wanting to rebel against the church, such as what we see in Lonato. So there is a ton of evidence that war was on the horizon. The only people denying this at this point is those who do it by proxy for saying Edelgard is "wrong", but they are biased and should be taken with a grain of salt. Some in this thread have taken to saying non-arguments such as "it doesn't matter" when presented with this evidence that they don't want to accept. A shame. I won't bother with arbitrary speculatio on "what-ifs" but here's a question about about Dimitri investigating Arundel: it is strange why he accuses Edelgard of Duscur in CF. In that route he never witnesses the Flame Emperor conversing with Thales when he brings up Duscur, which is what connected Edelgard to the tragedy in his mind. So why does he say Edelgard killed their mom before his death? Maybe he continued investigating into Arundel, but then still, why wouldn't he blame it on him who he already suspects, instead of her who he knows is his childhood friend who was 14 at that time? It's very strange, and kinda smells of plot hole to me, but there are more weird things like this about Dimitri among all routes... Also: "education is unfair in favour of the nobles", no it's not, it's public education as the game states. Also the crests have no value outside war according to Lynhardt, "it's as if crests are only tools of war" so they do not grant them an advantage in merit. And come on, this stuff is not part of the subject of this thread. Let's try to keep our protests over "every single thing Edlegard does is wrong" to a minimum when it's not part of the topic and at least stick to the topic at hand.
  9. Yeah exactly. Marth took over the whole of Archanea, the Renais twins took over Grado (their heir is dead anyway), Chrom conquered Plegia and at least north Valm as Chonsin was a small kingdom in the south, and Corrin in Birthright of course. That's already plenty of examples of "defensive wars" turning to conquest in the series.
  10. I think she only actually uses Raging Storm if she can't kill the unit she uses it against, so as to move again and attack someone she can kill. I've seen some other videos of this battle and it was always used against someone she didn't kill outright. Though I haven't actually played neither VW or AM on maddening to test it myself yet.
  11. I love this. Is this the first time an enemy unit can pull something like this in FE?
  12. The Lissa discussion pretty much showed that the past lords cannot be held up to the standards set by 3H. None of them go through the same struggles as Dimitri or have to make the same choices as Edelgard. To say they "just side with the side that is being declared against" is naive to say the least. I'm pretty sure there are more than a few lords (Sigurd, Alm, Corrin) that go on offensive wars in FE, but all of them conquer their respective continents even if they are doing a "defensive invasion". "They started it" is not a legitimate cause to pretend conquering a continent is somehow more noble than uniting Fodlan with Edelgard and that she was evil to do so when everybody in the game says that uniting Fodlan is the right thing to do. Also I'm not sure what the point of the poll is, we've all seen how these go down with such discussions. Reddit is definitely not the best place to ask this.
  13. Dimitri's participation in the story feels like an afterthought in general. Even the whole deal with being Edelgard step sibling but she having "amnesia" about it feels like it was a plotpoint added after her story was finished.
  14. Ingrid has her unique outfit as a Paladin. There's no need to be upset over this.
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