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Okay well, if you want to hammer while I'm asleep, go nuts. Pretty sure this is the consensus and also pretty sure this is correct. Even if we're wrong there's no real point in dragging out this day after Ichigo+Darth claim imo
##Vote: Shinori
^Hammer -3
Shinori>>>>Darth>Weiner>Ichigo>I don't have a clue bc with Claire flipping scum Duskfall should be super clear, Dodgedusks role is too bad for scum to have versus a town with this many claimed PR's and I don't see scum!Fleet not safeguarding nuxl N1
If fsr a townie is lynched before I get back in the thread I'm blocking Darth or whoever hal says I should block instead if Darth claims a PR @Flee Fleet! DO NOT safeguard my roleblock target please
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Just now, Shinori said:
I'm fine proving my claim.
No point anymore bc with fleet causing the blocks on ichigo's actions there isn't necessarily a scum!roleblocker
So you being an actual rolecop doesn't mean anything
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Also Fleet might be clear for not safeguarding the N1 kill
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Oh lol, ignore most of my last post now
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Assuming there's no other town!roleblocker (which I am assuming), Ichigo is clear for being blocked by scum
Last maf has to be roleblocker, so if it is in fact Shinori, claire mustve had a rolecop and copped me N1, which fits in a world where Shinori has to claim a cop on a dead person.
Still think he should just die today, mechanical play might be to have a couple of people not claim and force him to prove his cop on them
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Yeah, I'm limited roleblocker, I can only block on nights after we lynch town, which means I didn't block ichigo but can start generating clears from now on.
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Just now, Duskfall98 said:
Why are you saying me again?
Relax, you're like my #6 choice for a lynch. You're in the pool of "I'm pretty sure these are town but if for some reason the actual scummy/null people all flip town I have to tinfoil on someone"
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I wonder if he prefers being called Marth or dusk the counter :thinking:
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1 minute ago, Refa said:
I'm with you on Weiner, just more wary of him I guess because I respect his scumgame. I guess my problem is that I'm townreading Ichigo/Marth/Duskfall, so the next place I personally would look would be like...Fleet? Not sure. It feels like he's always there but not really influencing the game, but that's kind of hard to do as a newbie so...Alongside Roxas, I'd really expect him to be getting a lot more flak as town. I think all signs really just point to scum playing a lazy game because there are people who should be getting pushed her as town but they're not and it is very bizarre and confusing to me.
I'm with you on those townreads so uh the fact that it's rough find more than 3 suspects probably is a sign we've nailed it down at this point.
I think it's such a crapshoot with those 5 you mentioned that it's just weird to call the shots there rn so I'd leave it at Ichigo/Dusk the counter/Dusk 2.0 > Fleet/Darth and move the latter two over the former two based on what the first three do next / possible role fuckery or whatever
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Oh I realize you meant your question more like "Where did we go wrong/who's pulling the strings" but actually I'm still down to poe at that point
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Would appreciate your thoughts on this too actually :grin:
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1 minute ago, Refa said:
Shinori is probably scum regardless of Mitsuru's flip (honestly, I did backread the last game and found her reaction to being voted was exactly the same as this game, so I wouldn't be surprised if she flipped town but it's like...I'm not going to move off of someone who isn't defending herself and not even claiming @Athena_57 LMK if you agree/disagree because you were actually alive during that game while I just backread Artic Mafia D2), so I don't hate that lynch.
While I have you here Athena, who would you case if Mitsuru flipped town (besides Shinori, because I get that one)? Probably the only line of inquiry I'm really interested in pursuing because if she flips scum, easy game easy life and if she flips town we have to worry about things. I guess I'm just paranoid because it feels like there's been no resistance to the lynch (again!) but not really much I can do about it if the two primary suspects aren't even posting very much.
Yeah no, I'm fine w/ lynching Claire here.
If she flips town I spend my effort on taking another look at weiner/dusk
fight me hal. I have actually come to sort of townlean weiner (but he's still in a worse place than most of the others) and think we may need to take another look at claire's dusk read more seriously if she flips town.Lynch priority would be like shinori>>>weiner>ichigo>dusk=marth or smth pending a more detailed look at the two I mentioned above
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On 1/25/2019 at 7:53 PM, Athena_57 said:
Shinori: Has done pretty much nothing (which is null) Came into thread multiple times claiming he'd read then didn't which is null if you're being generous. Blank vote on me today gave me a scum giving up on even bothering vibe. In a game where I'm townreading a lot of people, he's the person left without any redeeming factors. Not super scummy, but fits in a lot of worlds and after striking away the people I townread and working under assumptions like there are never 2 scum in you/weiner/dusk most of the likeliest teams have him. POE'd scumlean/read
This was my original reason
On 1/25/2019 at 11:57 PM, Athena_57 said:Okay, I just factchecked this bc I'm pretty sure this was bullshit and it sort of was. Game is IDNSFMM5 ftr. I just ISO'd myself there and on the D1 Shinori is talking about I didn't comment on 2 of my buddies (Junko/Shinori) and shaded two others (Kirsche/Jaybee), though never put either in my top 3 lynch candidates. One of the latter two was bc he got himself in a thunderdome with Junko and everyone was picking a side there.
The bussing in that game got intenser when that thunderdome escalated and Jaybee started sinking. Saying I went out bussing like a madman is a gross misrepresentation of my play there.
Shinori plz
Also I'm pissed about this
But I don't actually care if it's Claire bc these are the two people I want to lynch in a row
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Same
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@SB. Are above votals correct (should there be two votes on weiner?)
(Or alternatively @Flee Fleet! does your vote count for two?)
If Fleet does in fact count for two keep in mind we're at hammer-2
I prefer Shinori, but I'd consolidate on Claire (or Weiner if I really had to)
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Side note, remember when I went after Fleet for his readslist bc it matched my scummeta? I didn't post a single readlist that D1. -
9 minutes ago, Shinori said:
I feel like nothing combated against that fenrir wagon yesterday.
So this either means scum, didn't care, scum tried to push the other lynch which was duskfall, or scum just decided to bus Fenrir pretty much out the gate.This has happened before and Athena has resorted to bussing his teammates very quickly in the past. I've literally been his scum buddy before when he started bussing day 1. That was a chaotic game.
I'm going to work right now so I can't talk much but I think people should really think about what the most reasonable reason for yesterday to go so smoothly was. From what i remember the only people against the Fenrir wagon was like, Ripple and Weinerboy.
Okay, I just factchecked this bc I'm pretty sure this was bullshit and it sort of was. Game is IDNSFMM5 ftr. I just ISO'd myself there and on the D1 Shinori is talking about I didn't comment on 2 of my buddies (Junko/Shinori) and shaded two others (Kirsche/Jaybee), though never put either in my top 3 lynch candidates. One of the latter two was bc he got himself in a thunderdome with Junko and everyone was picking a side there.
The bussing in that game got intenser when that thunderdome escalated and Jaybee started sinking. Saying I went out bussing like a madman is a gross misrepresentation of my play there.
Shinori plz
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1 minute ago, Shinori said:
I feel like nothing combated against that fenrir wagon yesterday.
So this either means scum, didn't care, scum tried to push the other lynch which was duskfall, or scum just decided to bus Fenrir pretty much out the gate.This has happened before and Athena has resorted to bussing his teammates very quickly in the past. I've literally been his scum buddy before when he started bussing day 1. That was a chaotic game.
I'm going to work right now so I can't talk much but I think people should really think about what the most reasonable reason for yesterday to go so smoothly was. From what i remember the only people against the Fenrir wagon was like, Ripple and Weinerboy.
:dankpuff:
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1 hour ago, Mitsuru Kirijo said:
That's what I'm trying to figure out myself. I just know I have townreads in the main Poe. Personally I have only have 2 big scumreads in hal/dusk but even they have reason to be town for one way or another.
On this: I too have townreads in the poe but I have way harder townreads out of it haha
Wrt Hal, idk, I guess I can understand people nullreading him (maaaybe a mild scumlean) but Nuxl's metaread on him+my own gut+him being on a good spot on the scumlynch lead to a pretty solid townread on my end. How is he a big scumread for you?
Wrt Dusk, the same smogon!metaread+my gut argument sort of hold here, though I'll agree w/ you that some of his behaviour hasn't been great. Fenrir interactions go a long way in clearing his slot for me, not only bc Fenrir was vote #3 on the wagon (aka turned it into an actual contender in my eyes), dusk didn't make a big show out of it which makes me doubt the world where Fenrir gives up and attempts to get dusk towncred out of it bc dusks play doesnt really make sense here.
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51 minutes ago, Mitsuru Kirijo said:
It's why I'm asking for your read on my nulls like: Darth/Ichigo/Marth/Shinori
Darth: I think with his background (No forum mafia, but town of salem) in mind, his behaviour and the way he explains how his approach to this game stems from that fits, and I like his tone. Town.
Ichigo: I was going to say I couldn't really explain why I'm townleaning him, but I just ISO'd him and now I really don't know why I have him as not-null. I guess I sort of melded w/ him when he voted Shinori D1 at a point where I was starting to wonder about that as well, but w/ a fenrir-flip maybe I shouldn't be townreading him for starting a wagon elsewhere. There was also this thing Refa mentioned where he didn't think scum!Ichigo would bother angleshooting. Null/mild townlean.
Marth: One disappointing post D1. Vote #4 on the scumlynch. One quite good post D2. Townlean atm, will be fluctuating depending on what dodgedusk does.
Shinori: Has done pretty much nothing (which is null) Came into thread multiple times claiming he'd read then didn't which is null if you're being generous. Blank vote on me today gave me a scum giving up on even bothering vibe. In a game where I'm townreading a lot of people, he's the person left without any redeeming factors. Not super scummy, but fits in a lot of worlds and after striking away the people I townread and working under assumptions like there are never 2 scum in you/weiner/dusk most of the likeliest teams have him. POE'd scumlean/read
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20 minutes ago, Mitsuru Kirijo said:When you're new to a game such as mafia mr Duskfall most new players are excited and ready to get out there, at least as town. As shadows they tend to over think and be very careful with how they post. What gives you the illusion that new players are careful as town.
And yeah, I was in the other game Fleet played and they were very careful/hesitant there as well (MHA mafia on this site)
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