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16 minutes ago, kratoscar2008 said:
I dunno, i think the japanese fanbase POv would be a better metric of this reception, would be interesting to know.
Looking at Awakening threads both here and gamefaqs when the characters were posted i saw a similar reaction towards kozaki's designs and art and how nany people thought it was inferior was to previous games and look at and behold now he is the most popular artist the series ever had.
I at least like the designs i have seen, i look forward to see how much this reception remains or changes when it has been a good while on the market.
One character can do wonders actually, just look at Lucina. I think Edelgard has the potential to become as popular.
Lucina sucks.... i will never understand why people like her... blue haired lord privilege i guess
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44 minutes ago, zuibangde said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Kurahana Chinatsu did the art and design for Otome Yusha? I searched up the art for the game and quite like the art...they seem a bit 'livelier' and more memorable than the characters from Three Houses shown so far. It might be because the character portraits for Three Houses are literally just them staring right back at you with a neutral expression. It's also definitely way more 'anime' though and doesn't really fit into an FE game I think.
Regardless, I think her art is generally pretty good but it isn't really translating well to the FE characters for some reason.
Also, it seems like she's fairly capable of drawing fanservice-y characters (is that a good or bad thing...hmmm...). She definitely draws way more males than females though...
now i am mad! why coulfnt this be the cast of 3Houses!! The third one in the third lane...
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3 minutes ago, NegativeExponents- said:
I think they’re talking about Claude looking like the guy from Captive Prince in the first page.
Personally, I don’t see the similarities between him and Claude outside having a dark skin color but eh. I mean he’s just so much more muscular, different hair, rougher face, sharper eyes. Very different from Claude.
Although I do think the blonde one looks like Dimitri with an actual good looking hairdo.
we would WISH for claude to look that HOT!!... Unfortunately he doesnt with that weird hair she has given him.... i dont see anything gay in her FE characters... not that u can see "gayiness" anyway... YAOI artists are known for pretty boys aesthetics... and so far the characters we have seen are actually pretty diverse (in the pretty department)..... if anything Fates had way more hotter boys...
Anyway my issue with her characters is that only the main 4 are actually distinct and memorable the rest are pretty much the same with very generic hairstyles... and for the love of god that modernized clothes are the pits!
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59 minutes ago, carefreejules said:
To those who saw and liked my edits, thanks! I think the eye style itself looks way better on the male characters than female since female eyes are typically drawn bigger than males. Adding depth does wonders to make the characters look a lot more alive especially if their expressions are neutral.
i saw your edits and the characters became way better!
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4 hours ago, starburst said:
I am not into anime, and thus cannot give a contrasted criticism, but I dislike the eyes of the characters, specially on the women.
I also think that characters lack solemnity, heroism. This is, I cannot picture a scene where one of these characters sacrifices their life for their countrymen or performs a last-minute save in the chaos of the battlefield.
I am fine with the nod to gay men, like the Lord with the darker skin tone. I would prefer them not too homoerotic, but I like handsome male characters. The thing is that all characters seem bland for the main theme of the game: war.
I am not implying that gay men are bland soldiers. I am saying that the particular design of these characters seems very odd on a battlefield. Which is rather ironic, since now that Lords are able to command divisions, they inspire nothing.
Oh!, and I hate the girl with the stripper hat.
emmmm what? am i missing something? is he confirmed to be gay?
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i hope there are more characters than the ones u have to chose.... i am not here to have to use all of em mandatory.... i already want to bench half of the cast :/ i dont want their ugly asses on my team...
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If u google he name u get some pretty good art but so far her designs were meh to bad.... I dont know what they were thinking hiring such a person.... Definitely my least favorite character designs of any FE game i played.... shame especially after the amazing designs we had in echoes
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After watching multiple times the trailer.. there just sth i dont like about the way the characters are animated... cant pint my finger on what exactly it is...But they feel kind of lifeless and fake... like how in some games some parts of things and characters seem to pass through each other...
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question:
So we chose a team (eagles, lions, deers) and we can only use characters of that team? if yes then every fraction has to have at least 20 characters... and i guess some will be neutral
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Does anyone else finds the charcater's designs kinda uninteresting and very generic?
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whatever and anyway .... since there is no point talking to a wall....
I dont want 3 routes because it was done very poorly in Fates.... I liked the SOV way but as someone said it makes u feel disconnected with the cast at times... I think its time we go back to linear route this time and we can always go back to separate routes in the future....
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15 minutes ago, nyainou said:
I find it very strange that there are people who feel like there needs to be a justification for the existence of PoC and LGBT people in any given fantasy setting. I think I understand where everybody's coming from, but I'm not sure. So please, correct me if I've misunderstood.
I just can't imagine getting so fussed up this particular part of worldbuilding. As others have stated, you can do anything in fantasy. Does it really ruin your suspension of disbelief so much to see a PoC/LGBT character in a place they "shouldn't" be? I think there are way more important parts of worldbuilding to be focused on. The socio-economic situation of a country, their religious system if any, how their government works, the class divide, etc. Hell, even their cuisine and arts feel infinitely more 1) important and 2) interesting than ""justifying"" the existence of "minorities".
The fantasy genre should adapt to match the times. Maybe we should stop basing everything off of Celtic, Norse, Greek and medieval European culture. If not for their "lack" of diversity, but also for the fact that they're so fucking overdone I didn't even bother reading any of the new Lords' full names because its just boring stuff I've heard before. Yawn. The fact that I may be able to let my eyes glaze over and still be able to fill in the blanks in 3H's worldbuilding makes me feel very bored. Fantasy writers need new material.The new God of War (which I know is a pre-existing franchise) was really good, but I didn't pay fuck-all attention to any of the worldbuilding because I knew it already since its all been used before. Maybe that's good for something more character-driven, I suppose. But in the contexts of an actual war, which 3H is setting itself up to be, I think I'd like to know more about the state of the countries, with those countries being fresh materials. There's 0 reason to pay attention to something I've already seen so much of, so why not draw inspiration from something different for once?
Judging from the answers here the problem isnt the origins of inspiration but the actual mindset that people have built over the years... Its really baffling to me how they can accept dragons, magic, woldskins, kitsune and any other crazy thing (that didn't exist in that country's history or even mythology!!) but show them a male pegasus rider and they freak their minds.... RIP i mean RIP the irony is that the only actual pegasus rider in mythology was a male.... RIP i cant take these arguments seriously when they flip flop all over the place... (see also the Pegasus efficiency argument RIP)
I am sorry i dont want to sound rude but if the opposite side tries to put themselves on the other sides shoes they might actually understand instead of trying to find unreasonable excuses to fit their agendas...
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I am sorry but do u really want an an explanation as to how a black dude appeared in a world like FE ?
well there are some black people in the continent but since they are few u didnt see many of them in the story before... what more of an explanation u need... lets say they are rare or at least were rare...
I get the point of world building... but if a story doenst have that is it so bizarre to have some black characters? without mentioning where they came from? (and FE doesntt have a concrete and complete world building, especially ih u take into account all the different timelines and universes)
Do we also need a reason on how gay people suddenly appeared in the FE continent ....?
I am sorry but some posts here are kind problematic... the posters might not be racist or homophobes but their posts comes as such...
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5 hours ago, Etrurian emperor said:
I wasn't really a fan of Subaki as the first male Pegasus rider. He looked too much like a normal guy for it. It would have been much more fun if they used the Lucius archtype and have a character so feminine that even the Pegasus which only allow females to ride them get confused and think its a chick. Then in his ending its said that this male pegasus rider went down in history as the genius who managed to breed Pegasus that accepted males. This would give a proper explanation for the change and give a canon explanation why Pegasus would suddenly allow men to ride them.
NO JUST NO!
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1 hour ago, Tenzen12 said:
Are you backtracking your own posts now? Having more maler PKs was never issue with me I even explicitly said it would be fun, remember? What I did have isssue with was you calling reason behind this class sexistic and deciding it should be unisex for sake of diversity. Also I don't know about single opponent Caeda fought in FE she wouldn't be able theoretically fight in RL, which includes dragons.
What's more I never said pegasi can't carry males, I just stated why it's more practical for it not being case. Even in fantasy worlds exist physics, gravity, momentum and practically everything else. Magic can bypass it, sure, but in FE case it was never even implied pegasi are magical creature. It's just treated as winged horse. Did you ever look on their stat in games where Con is thing? Pegasi are not good carrying heavy burdens, if they do they get huge penalties. That's why PKs are mainly female and Wywern riders unisex
This is exactly what i said and the post u first quoted...
Quotei am on the opposite side, i hope they give us more male pegasus knights...
I never said that it should be unisex for the shake of diversity tho... i said that i like more male pegasus knights.... (yeah i added that they should make everyone unisex but thats not the reason why i want more male pegasus riders...)
What i have issue with your posts is taht u bring real world logic and twist it in such way to help your arguments...
So caeda is ok since its a magical world but pegasi cant carry male riders because of science that doenst make sense?
and why are dragons mythical creatures and pegasus not... lol (especially when they have high resistance and are more efficient against mages) and they are called holy beasts....
Your excuse "its more practical" doesnt make sense AT ALL! not with real life logic and not with game logic.. only in pokemon logic that would make sense... i am sorry but if u cant see it u can continue thinking whatever u want....
the only excuse teh game gives is that pegasi prefer women (like unicorns).. and they were only male pegasi riders in teh first game....
let me give u what the game says:
QuoteIn the Japanese version of Fire Emblem Fates, the C-rank support between Selena and Subaki on the third path reveals the Pegasi shown in Hoshido are actually Tenma (天馬), a species of winged horses that are similar in appearance to Pegasi, but have an easier time accepting male riders, and the people of Hoshido called Pegasi holy beasts; the difference being a commonly known fact on the continent the game takes place in. Also, Tenma are rather picky when it come to their riders, and are generally unwilling for anyone ride them if their hearts are filled with hatred, as Hinoka stated in her C-Support with Subaki and her S-Support with a Male Avatar, as well as her Support with Caeda in Fire Emblem Warriors.
see its nothing about efficiency! stop making ti happen!
Anyway i am done with this argument.... its clear who's right and who's wrong
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1 hour ago, jake72002 said:
Actually, most FE Pegasus are male perverts who likes being ridden by females.... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Special mention to Catria's Pegasus.
cant blame him...
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2 hours ago, Tenzen12 said:
Yeah, no. There is no sexist tradition in fire emblem. Females kick asses for decades already, starting with Caeda. This is your regular witch hunt, which always end with innocent burned on stake in name of '"social justice". And support that is nothing but about making yourself feel good about yourself how just and upright you are.
the fact u took a "i would like more pegasus riders" (key word more since we already have 1 so its not about "breaking" a tradition) and turn it into a Youtube comment section about diversity says a lot...
And your posts are very hypocritical since u have no issue with caeda kicking the asses of opponents she would never be able in real life BUT on the same hand a non existent creature cant carry males because of science
At least be honest and say u dont like it... no one is going to hunt u (at least here) for stating your aesthetics opinion...
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8 hours ago, Tenzen12 said:
It's you who makes it sexist. Pegasi are winged horses. Did you ever see jockeys? They are always small and light and yes horse can carry heavy burdens, but if you expect high perfomance in battle, lighter rider is obviously better. And yes it's also for aesthetic reasons, but that doesn't change rather obvious reasons that can be applied on story.
In first place don't fix what isn't broken. Fire emblem have lot of archetypes and habbits codified in it over decades of it's existence. It's fine experiment here and there or even break rules for more fun, but discarding traditions just to comform some kind of "social agendas"wannabe would just ruin game. Male pegasi knigh? Sure. Gay/Lesbian lord? Fine with me (just don't make everyone bi so they can marry. That would be stupid). Oh you wanna black/hispanic character, why I should care? Everything is fine just don't try make it sound like it need to be there or that game is worse without it.
As for Wywern riders. They are flyings tanks, when pegasi are fragile speedsters. Why you don't give thought of difference between both animals first before you make argument that doesn't make any sense.
i am not making it sexist..
Your argument doesn't make sense because u are trying to bring real world logic to a FANTASY world!! Its a pegasus!! its a creature from greek mythology who is ridden by Bellerophon! A male greek hero! and if u know anything about greek mythology u would know that the heroes had taht muscle statue-esque body! Through the years this mythological creature had been depicted by many media and in most it is ridden by males... Hercules in Disney and Perseus wrath of the titans.. very muscular guys etc so excuse me but your logic makes 0 sense!
In the same game its was shown that it can carry more than 1 riders.. it is also shown that it can carry male riders without losing efficiency... there's nothing in the game and outside of it that backs up your claim...
Also in Mystery of the emblem all pegasus rider enemies were male
even in the context of the game they just used the excuse that pegasi just prefer female riders... they said nothing about lighter riders....
its another thing if u dont like it and another to try and make it look as it makes sense and its there for a reason...
I dont understand what's the connection of the next paragraph with the point...
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we are talking a world where this
can beat an army of these
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15 hours ago, Tenzen12 said:
Pegasus knight being female class make lot of sense. Girls are smaller and lighter then males by average.
That said I wouldn't mind male rider (as long as he has suitable physique) struggling prove himself in occupation dominated by females. It could be quite fun take on gender equality.
This doesnt make sense at all...
so why aren't riders only female as well ...
Pegasus (a non existent creature) is capable to carry a rider in the air... in some cases more than 1 (see sumnia saving chrom)
wyvern riders also carry male and female...
also this is a world where skinny chicks like Charlotte (an almost any FE female character) can butcher beefy man...
lets not try bring fake logic to maintain sexist characteristics
lets ne honest here pegasus riders only being female was done for aesthetic reasons but there is no reason to keep it that way anymore....
p.s subaki isnt beefy at all RIP
in what world is this beefy ... especially for a horse to carry on...
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On 6/25/2018 at 2:13 AM, MyBoyHector said:
This. I personally don't care about the support options given, Options are nice, but in the end, they are in my army to do two things, Kick the crap out of my opposition, and let me continue further into the story.
Now personally, I hope they don't give us any more Subaki's, Male Pegasus riders just don't work.
i am on the opposite side, i hope they give us more male pegasus knights... actually they should make all classes unisex...
whats wrong with subaki?
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the male lords hair are kinda tragic... here's hoping that this wont be a trend for the rest of the cast
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someone said that the artist is Shigenori Soejima... is that true?
At least be honest and say u dont like it... no one is going to hunt u (at least here) for stating your aesthetics opinion...
Chinatsu Kurahana is Three Houses New Artist
in Fire Emblem: Three Houses
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The thing u guys misunderstand with kozaki is the "overstaying" part .... Artists especially manga/anime artists tend to have a style and thus repeating it over and over again, thats the nature of their art.... Mashima's Fairy tail character designs are the same as his previous work for example and thats true for almost any manga artist.... Kozaki also had to draw some of the biggest casts in FE history, so his style became repetitive pretty quickly.... so while he was good in Awakening and even in Fates one more entry would be an overkill... Echoes designs were a breeze of fresh air...
So in conclusion Kozaki's art was fine but a series like FE should change his artists after 1 or 2 at most entries...