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14 hours ago, omegaxis1 said:
Well, there are two things about that on why Tiki is keeping the Emblem apart now, in regards that she no longer needs it.
1) Based on the paralogue when we recruit her, it's indicated that Tiki has somehow more of her power sealed away and is accessed through a ritual, and even after the ritual is performed, she didn't regain all of it. Since the very dragon power itself is what causes the degeneration to occur, having the excess energy sealed off through said ritual means that she no longer needs the Shield of Seals.
2) Perhaps Tiki has matured at this point. I believe the reason that she needs the Shield of Seals is because her powers are too immature in New Mystery. Tiki even says in her Warriors Support with Navarre that she's too young and thus cannot use her powers to its full potential, and would need about another 1000-2000 years before she can.
Another thing is that Manaketes ages even slower when they are asleep. Tiki, despite being 3000 years old, still appearing to be in her late teens to early 20s is more likely because she's slept through a large chunk of her life, since for almost 1000 years of her beginning years, she was forced to sleep by Naga and Gotoh.
For all we know, Gotoh and Xane were killed, hence why she doesn't mention them. Only one that seems to possibly still be alive is Bantu.
Also, Tiki does talk about Marth plenty. Her supports with Robin and Lucina are about Marth after all. And even in her supports with Nah, she tells her the story of Marth.
But I will agree, one of the biggest issues with Awakening is how MANY of the lores in the Archanea series somehow became ridiculously altered.
Forgot about Tiki's supports tbh, thanks Omega ^^
I actually think a lot of these lore issues could be fixed the same way Grima was sorta fixed in Valentia - reremake of SD and (New) Mystery? Since Grima was added in Valentia, I don't see why we could mention Taguels or something - shrugs -
Although I think it's a little weird that Awakening may or may not need to be "fixed" due to how much lore altering is going on, I think it's a good idea to try to tie all of that lore together into a coherent package - obviously some stuff may be lost, but just imagine recruiting a Taguel in SD or Mystery ^^ Doesn't even have to be a bunny, since birds, cats, lions, and wolves were all mentioned - Lion Taguel maybe?
It'd also be interesting to have Nowi's parents as either mentioned characters, cameos, or playable characters (or maybe Nagi was her mom? Idk), just to make everything feel connected, instead of this disconnect that seems to be happening between Mystery/SD and Awakening.
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5 hours ago, Belisarius said:
you chose the rayquaza i see
Myes :33
Honestly I wasn't trying to make a big fuss - I'm just an idiot 'tis all :p
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On 5/8/2018 at 5:49 PM, Nicholas said:
She's a little mad with Robin (actually I think she's like that with everyone, and bit more with Robin. For another perspective, I think it's should be her nobility. ), but looks like she wants to hide some love... with that, I started my shipping. :3
Oh yeah, that makes sense!
On 5/9/2018 at 12:39 PM, redtutel said:I've become a bit of a multi shipper over time.
I like Male Robin with Lissa, Tharja or Olivia
I can only see Female Robin with Chrom, but I also love Chrom and Sumia, so I may never have a female Robin playthough (although I do want to do a female Corrin playthough someday)
I'm found of Lissa and Fredrick
I've shipped Ricekn and Maribelle ever since I first recruited them on my first playthough
Sully and Libra, mainly for an opposites attract element
Donnel and Nowi's supports are cute
As for the second generation, I like Morgan and Owain, Inigo and Lucina, Nah and Yarne, and Gerome and Cynthia
YeahbutifyougetwithoneofChrom'skidsthenMorganandOwainMMMMMMMMMMMyeahnoInigo and Lucina is a pair of always been kind of a fan of, though it's kind of weird - from a narrative and character standpoint, I think it's more fitting if Lucina gets with no one (or becomes companions with Owain) and leaves the adults forever? It's sad, but it's almost too fitting for me to ship her with anyone.
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On 5/8/2018 at 12:55 AM, Emperor Hardin said:
Thats mostly the localizers, in the original text, Nowi is actually a child.
An obvious one, instead of keeping the Emblem Together like Marth wanted, Tiki is keeping it apart even though story indicates numerous reasons for it to be kept together for everyone, especially Tiki, wellbeing.
Even in Supports, Tiki, mainly mentions the First Exalt over Marth.
And speaking of Tiki's friends, she acts like Gotoh and Xane never existed.
Basically there is unanswered question/plothole after unanswered question/plothole with Awakening's depiction of Tiki.
Wait, in the original text Nowi is literally a child? Was it Awakening that introduced the slow aging thing then, because otherwise wouldn't that kind of break canon?? (Because if she were a child, wouldn't she look like a baby, or maybe a toddler?)
Well, it was literally thousands of years later, and Tiki had been asleep for awhile - not to mention it was Flavia and Basilio that mentioned the Fire Emblem split, not Tiki, so she likely had nothing to do with that.
No idea about why the First Exalt is mentioned over Marth though, and I don't know about Gotoh or Xane, but maybe it's better that they have Tiki build new relationships rather than focus on older ones? For the sake of developing her character beyond nostalgic wistfulness?
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1 hour ago, Jotari said:
I more meant Tiki being a figure of authority that Lucina knew and actively served to guide and advise the party.
That would be cool too honestly - or maybe more conversations between her and Nowi?
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9 minutes ago, Otts486 said:
really it's just a matter of me seeing a lot of people singing robin's praises quite a bit and that would obviously be something people would expect Severa to be like considering she is the older sibling and thus would be expected to be as good if not better than both of her parents.
Okay fair - and Morgan being pretty gifted too cannot help with that.
Personally, I haven't tried to ship Severa much anyway, but I can see why SeveraxOwain works ^^
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13 minutes ago, Otts486 said:
Well disregarding the fact that he's a self insert. he is a master tactician and chrom's right hand not to mention the fact he's pretty well versed in combat as well and extremely intelligent.
Yeah but from what we've seen of them, that's about all they're good at - and even then, they aren't perfect. The Virion support is one that comes to mind, where they got thoroughly beaten in a strategy game, and then refused to drop it until they evened out the scoreboard.
Another is the Libra support, and their horrendous painting skills.
The (ironically) hard time they had pairing Cherche's wyvern with a male one (and nearly got roasted for it if memory serves me).
They can also get pretty short with people actually - Lissa in their C support, and Gaius and his insistence to pay them back are two good examples.Ik the painting thing comes off as small, but when standing next to a character who has a major defining trait of being naturally talented (and getting mad at people for thinking her no less than, well, perfect), I don't think Robin is "perfect" per say.
15 minutes ago, LucarioGamer812 said:Yeah, I didn't want to bring up Severa too much into that but that's basically how I feel about it as well. I also did SeveraXOwain my first playthrough and yeah it worked very well. Honestly that's the pairing in my personal fanon of awakening.
Okay but I love fanon versions of Fates and Awakening casts - it's always so cool to see all the little differences between one person's let's say, Severa, and another's ^^ -
On 5/6/2018 at 8:01 PM, Jotari said:
Oh I don't object at all to Tiki being in the game, I just feel they didn't use her (and Lucina should have known everything Tiki tells the party anyway, since she attempted to use the Awakening already in the Future Past). Her role in Future Past was good and should have been worked into the main narrative.
So like, Tiki has to take the place of Naga in the main story because Awakening!Naga is killed by Grima or something?...Ngl that would have been cool
On 5/6/2018 at 8:18 PM, Emperor Hardin said:Not really, Nowi is pretty much a clone of young Tiki.
They don't even reference Mystery and Shadow Dragon with Awakening Tiki.
Eh, I don't really feel that Nowi is a clone since Nowi is miles more mature than Tiki then (from what I've seen), she just acts like a child to make people more comfortable around her - better to play up her looks rather than to have to be bombarded with questions later (like with what Nyx had to deal with).
And what do you mean they don't reference Mystery and SD with Awakening Tiki? She mentions quite frequently - such as mistaking Lucina for Marth, or telling Nah that she's going to suffer the same fate as she, losing people close to her, like Marth.
21 hours ago, omegaxis1 said:Based on Lucina's words in the chapter with Tiki, Lucina and Tiki never met in the future. Future Past is just an alternate world where things are different.
Other than the mistake of Lucina for Marth.
A lot of things seem to be different in the Future Past, such as Lucina not recognizing Robin (when realistically, she would have if she knew her father for any length of time - you think that man wouldn't have trusted Robin with raising her when he was busy?), Tiki and Lucina knowing each other, as you said, and that Grima somehow figured out how to kill the Naga of their timeline, so Future Past probably isn't the best point of reference for judging the main game's own future.
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36 minutes ago, omegaxis1 said:
The only issue is the case of how Nowi is the loli body type, so despite the nice chemistry there is, there are issues still.
I do like Donnel/Nowi, since it actually cuts into Nowi's backstory, going about her birthplace, which I almost believe is to be Jugdral.
I think loli is just something we're going to have to live with...unfortunately. (Y'know, thanks to the lore already in place...)
Yeah but doesn't Donnel/Nowi, Ricken/Nowi have problems too?...Like it's sort of pedophilia in the other way, if you think about it...
Then again
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17 minutes ago, Otts486 said:as an add on to this. Severa's self esteem issues are tripled with this pairing cause you know perfect father, perfect mother, and perfect younger sister like geez. It honestly makes her attitude a little more understandable also Morgan's sibling convo makes the most sense with Severa IMO.
Speaking of Severa, I really like Severa and Owain. Honestly if you want a reason as to why I absolutely adore the tsundere archetype I direct you to this support chain. I love the fact that she had his name written on her sword all this time and that she's always liked him even though she never really knew how to express it properly until now. It's just so cute.
What do you mean by Robin being the "perfect father"?
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11 minutes ago, omegaxis1 said:
Had Nowi gotten into Warriors, I wonder if they would have done an explanation?
They did one for Tharja in her support with Olivia.
...I just read and huh, Tharja describing the outfit as "functional" is really interesting to me - not to mention her conversation with Corrin in that game...it makes it seem like she's just really really socially inept? And that she can't figure out how to talk to people? Like even in that Olivia/Tharja conversation, she expressed a desire to be "better"...I guess she's just super awkward and that's kind of idk humanizing???
I wish there were more shifters in Warriors in general...We could have gotten Panne or Nowi or N A H, but nah (ha)
It would have been awesome if that had provided an explanation for her outfit in Warriors - who knows? Maybe they'll be a FE Warriors sequel (doubtful, but I can dream), and she'll make it in there?...Which isn't likely - if they WERE to make a new game, they'd add whoever's the most relevant at the time.
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2 hours ago, omegaxis1 said:
Well, I went and fixed that.
Just checked it and t h a n k you!
...Now if only we could prove the whole reason for her outfit thing...Too bad there's not enough definitive proof :/ -
22 hours ago, ChickenWings said:
Vaike/Nowi supports surprised me how well they were done romantically.
I think that Vaike/Nowi is one of Vaike's only really good romantic supports honestly - I think Nowi as a few p good other ones too, Libra, Gregor, and surprisingly Frederick too imo. ^^
2 hours ago, Nicholas said:Robin and Maribelle for sure!
That encounter of them in that mountain (?) was intense. :s
And the other couples that I arranged through the game:
Henry & Cherche
Lon'qu & Cordelia
Virion & Panne (this was fun)
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Robin and Maribelle? Really? Why those too?
Oh and I love HenryXCherche, they're so good for each other ^^ -
2 hours ago, Jotari said:
Because her role in the plot could have been replaced by a sign that said "Btw, you should collect some gemstones."
Eh, I suppose they could have made Say'ri more important by having her explain it rather than Tiki (if she would have known), but I think that it makes sense for Tiki to be there in the game anyway, so why not use her?
Plus, she adds a startling contrast to Nowi, and I think that's worth it.
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4 minutes ago, Ae†her said:
Really? Because the wiki has been saying otherwise, that she has lived her parents long ago, and that after their separation she lived in mankete village.
The wiki has hokey info - for the longest time, it was said that Camilla's Wyvern was named Marzia...when actually that information came from a fanfiction of all places.
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3 hours ago, omegaxis1 said:
Wasn't that the same book that also said that Grima is related to the Earth Dragons, and that's now non-canon?
What's to say that she herself didn't choose to wear it herself? If she's used to wearing revealing clothes, she'll end up picking clothes that she would find to work for her, and for her, that's revealing clothes. If its comfortable to her, why would she change it?
Except the origin of the taguel is completely unknown and they did not exist in any games in the past. So it hurts the lore even more when there's claims that they were ALWAYS there.Which artbook are we talking about? Knights of Iris?
And that's a possibility! But when she was found by Gregor, she had been sold to the Grimleal, so she was already in custody :/So was Grima, but SoV fleshed him out pretty well - if they reREmake one of Marth's games, they could have some sort of explanation I think.
Not to mention Panne's knowledge of Tageul can be considered shakey at best since she says she knew her mother, and then that she didn't...? I personally headcanon that she never knew her birth mother, but had an adoptive human mother, but I digress -
2 hours ago, omegaxis1 said:
It's about Lucina talking to Robin and telling him about the events that take place in the future and how she has to make sure that future is averted. It ties in well to the story and Robin here is trying to help Lucina open up to others and take care of herself, and you can see how Lucina starts to open up to him.
I headcanon that Lucina met Robin in the future before he was possessed and had a crush on him, which bloomed into full blown love after going back in time.
...Considering how much older Robin would have to be, it'd have to be a sort of puppy love kind of thing
which is pretty cute in it's own right ngl
1 minute ago, Fire Emblem Fan said:Another pair that I think really works is Lon'qu x Cherche, it's really one of my favorites.
Yeah that one does go into Lon'qu's backstory quite a bit, but I wish it did a bit more honestly? Like showed them actually getting used to each other's company or something? Idk
19 minutes ago, NinjaMonkey said:Chrom x Maribelle and Ricken x Miriel.
Why do you like those pairings?
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23 minutes ago, SCP-073 "Cain" said:
Just go to your account setting, hit edit profile, and change it under the member badge heading.
21 minutes ago, Ertrick36 said:The badges are based off of the option you pick under "I fight for..." in the profile editing window. For myself, I picked Archanea, so I'm listed as "Hero".
In that same window, you can also change what character appears on your badge.
Oh, oops - thanks for telling me
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I don't know if this is where this topic should go BUT
Here we are - I have no idea how those badge thingies when you post (that say things like Shepard, Nohrian, Crusader, etc...) work - how do they change? Is it based on where you post and how much????? -
12 hours ago, Anacybele said:
Yeah, I do like those quotes. I agree there.
Yeah, the main reason I love Frederick and Robin as a couple is because they start off rocky with the distrust and let it become love. I love relationships like that. I just feel like that aspect could've been done a bit better is all.
Yeah, true, I suppose.
I suppose it could have, but considering Awakening's lighter tone, I think the support works overall.
10 hours ago, TheSilentChloey said:Personally Chrom and Robin have the strongest actual chemistry (Chrom and F!Robin's support notwithstanding) and it makes perfect sense to me. That said Gaius/Tharja, Lucina/M!Robin, M!Robin/Sumia to me have a fairly strong bond. (Those supports are amazing...)
Gaius/Tharja? What makes you say that? Was it because Tharja seemed to actually want Gaius' attention?
10 hours ago, Fire Emblem Fan said:Stahl and Cordelia I think work. It's one of the only pairings where Cordelia actually grows as a character and isn't obsessed with Chrom. I also think Robin x Lucina works very well.
You talking about this in the S-Support?
Stahl: Look, I'll understand if your heart belongs to another man... I've known for a long time now that you've had eyes for Chrom. But I can't keep my love a secret any longer.
Cordelia: You...know about Chrom?
Stahl: Sure, Ever since that birthday bash. The song you played for Chrom was full of love, it was like declaring it to the world. But I thought that if I tried hard enough, I might be able to someday win your heart. Er, so, right... I'll just hold on to this ring in case that day ever comes.
Cordelia: Why can't I have it now?
Stahl: ...What?
Cordelia: You don't need to take Chrom's place. You already have.
Yeah, I can see how that works, but I actually like the supports that go through her obsession and help her realize how unhealthy it is for her - it just shows how much the other party cares for her.
7 hours ago, omegaxis1 said:Robin/Lucina, no question. Lucina confiding in Robin about the horrors of war is very natural. It ties in very nicely in the story, and honestly the part where Robin confesses that he fell in love with her, I felt it to be natural (and doesn't come with a stupid proposal).
Since I have yet to do a Male playthrough of Awakening, I actually haven't seen M!Robin and Lucina's romantic supports...What are they like?
6 hours ago, ChickenWings said:Any pairing involving Miriel and her chemistry set because of course Miriel would use actual chemistry to figure out the best romantic couples.
Male!Morgan/Nah, IMO easily the best second gen romantic support, if not the best romantic support in the game.
Other than the perfection known as MirielxS C I E N C E, MirielxKellem I always thought was a really good Miriel pairing, and I'd get it more often if SullyxKellem wasn't so good...
But I'm in complete agreement of M!MorganxNah, especially if you take into consideration Morgan's fell linage, and the fact he's still so receptive to Nah and her Naga related problems - sure he wasn't one-hundred percent aware of it, but I just thought it made it all the more cute ^^ -
2 hours ago, Jotari said:
I don't consider Tiki all that important in Awakening either. They absolutely wasted her potential.
How so?
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10 hours ago, Ae†her said:
What makes the idea of it even worse is that it's such a big and tragic thing that if it truly is there it's never addressed. Makes it kind of creepy in a way too. Thought I doubt IS wanted to imply sex trafficking, that would kind of be sick.
I mean I guess that could be possible, but that brings up the question again of why Nowi's wearing that specific costume, and if it's because her former slavers made her wear it (which is something that's been speculated repeatedly on this thread), then it doesn't make sense why she would keep it on. It doesn't really matter if she keeps it on (not to mention the fact that no one changes clothes at all either throughout the entire game) the question is more of on why she's wearing that specific costume.
I actually think it's better that it's not directly addressed because not only would that kill Awakening's more hopeful tone (Nowi: "Oh yeah, I used to be a sex slave!), but the fact that the implication is there and never fully mentioned is actually kinda scarier...
As for why she would keep it on, it's probably more that she just got used to outfits like that (since she was kidnapped near birth), and whoever sold her to the Grimleal made her wear that for whatever reason.
10 hours ago, Emperor Hardin said:The Art of Awakening states Nowi was the first Manakete seen for thousands of years other then Tiki and that Manaketes are mythical entities.
Yarne is referring to Tiki and Nowi there.
The taguel shouldn't be there period.I suppose that makes Chrom's and the Avatar's surprise at Nowi make sense.
Avatar: What in blazes?! The girl is a dragon!
Chrom: By the gods, she's a manakete...I never thought I'd see one.
And I can see why Yarne would consider any other Manakete's as manakete enough, but that still doesn't explain Bantu (since a big focus on Nowi's support with Henry is wanting more dragon friends); it's likely then that she met Bantu a long time ago then.I actually think the inclusion of Taguel isn't so bad - yeah it didn't do anything for the story, but them being there doesn't hurt the story already there; they're there, it's just not their story. -
41 minutes ago, Anacybele said:
I don't think it focused much on Frederick letting go of distrust at all, honestly. I would've liked it to focus a bit more on that instead of just all on bear meat later. The bear meat thing is fine, but it didn't need to be the main focus.
Hey, marrying each other after a harp duet is less silly than marrying each other after bear meat lessons.
Yeah I can see your point, but with comments like these in the C and B support:
Frederick: Hah! You're exaggerating. Or at least I pray so. Otherwise you might as well die here—you won't last long on the battlefield.
Or
Frederick: Yes, I will train till I can consume anything, without concern for taste or decorum. Like an animal...or a savage...or like you, Avatar.
I can think until the A and S supports, he still wasn't taken with her. But I think this support makes sense since Frederick is the type to get hung up over any of his shortcomings, and having someone help him out with said shortcoming is really touching for him.
And yeah maybe it is kinda silly, but Frederick and the Avatar at least had something else going on with their relationship beyond "Hey look moosic" -
4 minutes ago, Anacybele said:
I'm not sure with this game's character writing generally not being that good imo. Chrom x Robin sucks too imo, because that support is god awful. It's funny, but that is not how you build up a potential romance.
I even think chemistry is rather hard to see between Frederick and Robin despite them being my favorite couple. It's just the writing didn't reach its real potential. Their support is alright, but it could've been better.
Oh, I guess Stahl x Cordelia is alright in the chemistry department. The harp duet is cute.
Honestly with the Plegian-Ylissian war going on the in the background, and all the stuff going on in the main story, I think it's actually smart to have the support be more light in nature, as if it were as heavy as say, the Male Robin support, it may feel like too much all at once imo. I think the support was really well-written (especially the S-Support), and felt really natural, like, it would feel kind of weird having Robin and Chrom not be romantically involved with all the stuff going on in the amine story honestly.
I thought Frederick and Robin was pretty cute overall, since it showed Frederick getting over his suspicion of Robin.Eh, I actually don't like that one too much, because while it's cute and well-written, I don't see them marrying each other over it :/
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7 minutes ago, eclipse said:
Bantu would probably shake his head, but I doubt he could get her to change clothes!
I read that barracks convo as her reminiscing about her past, somewhat like a spoken journal.
Not even Libra could get her to repent for those sinful garments (funnily enough, I tend to ship Nowi with Libra, so...)
But yeah that actually does seem pretty in character for her, as she has a habit of saying whatever's on her mind, so long as it doesn't bring down the mood too much.
What is your opinion of Nowi in terms of personality and characterization?
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Well, yeah good point - I'm just saying how Valentia needed to come and give Grima's backstory, so maybe they are going to/should try to tie things back together with reremakes or more games in the Archneaian series? Actually...A game set in the perspective of the First Exalt would probably be for the best, since you could give light to Grima, Taguels, Tiki, the Fire Emblem, and Nowi all in own fell swoop.
...Dang it now I want a game in the First Exalt's perspective ^^"