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5 minutes ago, Diaqxolite said:
Ah, then I guess this might not be the best list for you. The optimisation goal in Fates is different as it was in Awakening. Of course you don't want to give really crappy parents to certain children, but it is not the sole superior goal anymore, some other things are taken into account as you said yourself. To answer your question though, this is just an all around optimization, mostly geared towards the gen 1 units.
Ah ok, thanks. Ill keep this list in mind though for another play through and see how the children would turn out based on that list for fun.
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9 minutes ago, Diaqxolite said:
Well, there is already a list which has been posted on a Fire Emblem sub reddit which has a list of all the optimal pairings for Fates for all 3 routes. I'd suggest going by, bar all your already fixed pairings.
[FE14] Optimal Fates Pairings (Birthright, Conquest, and Revelations)
Are these pairings for the benefit of gen 1 units or for optimizing gen 2 child units? Because by the looks of it that list is Optimal for pairing gen 1 characters for in battles stats or making like decent child units when in comparison im trying to make the most optimal child units, with no regards to what benefits are provided to the parents through their pair-ups; such as Effie! Mitama to get a statistically superior (and ridiculously broken) Mitama that is meant for physical combat based off the combined stats provided by both parents.
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5 hours ago, starburst said:
Felicia might be your best bet in this situation, but she passes weak DNA overall. Just keep in mind that your Nina will need RNG blessings to get great level-ups.
I use this calculators to see check the different characters growths.
Ive been using the first of the two links for quite a while to calculate my child units stats, its been quite beneficial in helping me pair my other 18 children to their maximum potential; unfotuantley that left Nina, Kigari and Dwyer as the leftovers. I gave most of the strong physical moms away to better child units, like Camilla! Velouria, Charlotte! Siegbert, Effie! Mitama and Mozu! Sophie etc. This left me with all the considerably statistically poor moms who need to paired off in the best way possible without hurting my remaining child units too much. Seems like Dwyer benefits the most from setsuna out of the remaining moms if I were to make him a Paladin, but his growths would result in him being a low grade male version of my Mozu! Sophie.
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So in my newest Revelations run I want to experiment with new stat builds for Forrest.
I used a Witch Sakura!Forrest and I am considering re-classing him as either a Dark Knight, Great Master or Basara, which class long term would be more beneficial to Forrest? Skills are not priority as I can buy them.
HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Dark Knight (Levin Sword + Tomes)
65 42.5 67.5 35 42.5 45 42.5 42.5 Great Master (Using Bolt Naginata / healer)
60 37.5 62.5 35 52.5 55 37.5 47.5 Basara (S Rank w. Selkie; Bolt Naginata + Tomes )
70 32.5 67.5 40 47.5 55 32.5 47.5 -
3 hours ago, starburst said:
While all of Felicia's growths bar Luck are very low (Nina would only have around 40 % growth in HP / Str / Mag / Skill as her daughter, and only 20 % in Def), I do believe that Nina with a fair Mag growth is more versatile than a Nina focused in Strength.At least in Conquest, a lot of enemies have lower Res than Def, and being able to effectively target both defensive stats grants Nina a great edge over other Player Phase units (and over Bow Knight itself.) Her max Strength as Adventurer or Bow Knight is not particularly high anyway (around 26-30, depending on her mother.)
The Shining Bow has 13 might (and you get one for free on Nina's chapter), thus Nina does not really need high Magic to deal great damage. In comparison, a forged Thunder +2 has 9 might and costs 4,000 G, the S-rank tome Excalibur has 12 might, and the most powerful tome, Ginnungagap (or however it is spelled), has 15 might and costs 8,000 G. You can forge the Shinning Bow and give it 15 might in mid-game.
Keep in mind that Nina's Defence will always be low and that the Shining Bow reduces Avoid --20 %. So, it still is a Player Phase weapon, even though it has 1-2 range.
Also watch her Skill, because some mothers like Elise and Nyx give great Magic and terrible Skill, and Nina does need to kill the enemy in her turn to survive.Thank you for explaining this all so well. I'm definitely going to try out using Felicia! Nina this time around as a res tank, it seems like it would be an overall effective character. With that out of the way, hopefully I can still manage to find good pairings for Kigari / Dwyer, because it's probable they both will end up being kind of garbage with their only options being Rinkah, Setsuna and Orochi.... (I did do Setsuna! Kigari once and it didn't turn out too well lol)
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13 hours ago, Shoblongoo said:
I've personally been very impressed with Felicia!Nina--pretty legit for mixed phase shining bow shenanigans + res tanking.
A res heavy unit at weapon triangle disadvantage against tomes really appreciates inheriting tomebreaker.
And Felicia's growth spread in magic/speed/res is exactly is exactly what Nina is looking for to do her job.
I never considered using Felicia as Ninas mother. I'm just curious, but is there a particular reasons so many people go for a shining bow build Nina when her base growths support her as a STR heavy unit (45%) vs her MAG growth (30%)? It seems like a pretty neat build, as I generally am not one to use Magic heavy bow units. I did Setsuna!Nina in my 3rd Revelations run and made her a Sniper, but I think this time around ill do Felicia!Nina and give Setsuna to Takumi cause Rinkah probably hurts Kigari more than Setsuna does.
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In my current revelations run ive optimized the hell out of my child units but I have 5 mothers and 4 fathers left im not sure who to pair with each other. I have a temporary setup and 2 of these children end up garbage. With my only options being Felicia, Orochi, Nyx, Rinkah and Setsuna, who do these 5 best suit when it comes to Dwyer, Kigari, Nina and Rhajat?
Current Pairs:
Dwyer! Orochi ( Garbage final pair I heard makes an ok Basara)Nina! Setsuna (For the +7 speed but I heard Nyx is ok if you want a shining bow build?)
Kigari! Rinkah (Good for Sidelong, Setsuna is better for Nina for now so yeah...)
Nyx! Rhajat (Many polls and discussions said Rhajat is better re-classed as Sorcerer)
Leftover Mom:
Felicia
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I've been trying to make the most optimal parings for my newest Revelations run and im to determine how optimal they are. A bunch of the pairs I believe will turn out well but there are two that will be godawful. These choices are based on dozens of discussions, polls and personal experience. Any thoughts on making these pairs better?
All Underlined Pairings are already married and cant be changed.
None of the children have been collected yet. I'm on Chapter 13.
Pairings:
FeMu x Saizo - Nohr Noble Kana
Jakob x Orochi - Basara / Butler Dywer (Leftover Pair)
Azura x Kaze - FK Shigure
Kaze x Azura - Mstr Ninja Midori
Silas x Mozu - Paladin Sophie
Xander x Charlotte - Paladin Siegbert
Leo x Sakura (Witch) - Grandmaster Leo
Benny x Peri - General / GK Ignatius
Keaton x Camilla - Great Lord Velouria
Arthur x Beruka - Wyvern Lord Percy
Odin x Elise (Witch) - Witch Ophelia
Lazlow x Hana - Swordsmaster Soleil
Niles x Setsuna - Sniper Nina
Ryoma x Kagero - Spear Master Shiro
Takumi x Rinkah - Sniper / Kinshi Kiragi (Leftover Pair )
Saizo x FeMu - Nohr Noble Asugi
Kaden x Hinoka - Basara / Nine Tails Selkie
Hinata x Selena - Hero / Mstr o Arms Hisame
Azama x Effie - General Mitama
Subaki x Oboro - Spear Master Caeldori
Hayato x Rahjat - Sorcerer / Witch Rhajat
Leftovers: Felicia
I found that almost all of these pairs were the most optimal based on the Growth percentages for a given childs class with the exception Nina, Rhajat and particularity Dwyer and Kigari. So If I threw Setsuna, Rinkah, Felicia, Orochi and Nyx in a pile what would be the best way to arrange them for thes ake of Nina, Rhajat, Dwyer and Kigari?
Best Pairings for Revelations?
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Ah I see, I do some PvP for fun occasionally so that's why im trying to max out the children. Personally i've always had great luck with FeMu! Velouria or Camilla! Velouria as her stats are generally off the charts while also making her an amazing versatile Great Lord.