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  1. And then we have Funeral of Flowers, where they actually did a great job with the Thunder version somehow. As well as subduing it by simply turning it into a piano piece, the mood actually makes sense for the fight at hand. But yeah generally speaking this is the aspect of 3H’s music I dislike the most.
  2. Actually I think I’ve realised my issue with Encloser- gambits have always been enough for me because I actually use tea parties- ergo I have a few extra units with good accuracy on gambits. Not that my personal experience diminishes the value of the art itself of course, but at least it’s an explanation. War Master Ignatz would like a word. But I think most people agree that Ignatz’ strength is present way before Hunter’s Volley ever becomes relevant- good accuracy makes him nice and reliable for chip damage, Rally speed is great for both survivability and offence (for the rest of the team), and he’s pretty good for using offensive gambits early on when everyone’s charm is pretty bad. His damage is low, but workable, and on GD can be boosted by Advocate to decent levels. And the fact that he has basically nothing else to strive for except Hunter’s Volley and authority for rallies means that building him is a walk in the park- other than a quick detour in axes for death blow, he’s basically set on bows and authority the whole game. He has weaknesses, yeah, but he’s unironically one of the better early game units for GD, and at the very least can do that while still training for Sniper to make up for when his stats no longer cut it.
  3. This implies that Alm had no merit of his own to begin with. And to be fair it’s kinda unclear what would have happened if Alm hadn’t been Rudolf’s son- as the leader of the invading army, one could argue that that would leave him the de facto ruler of Rigel (unless he ceded the throne to Berkut or someone else).
  4. His conversation with Berkut in act 5 is a fair indicator that he was planning to give it up- he denies that this war was ever about ruling Rigel or Zofia, admits that the people of Rigel won’t accept him as a ruler easily (which is backed up by the soldiers practically shitting themselves in Rigel Castle after the battle), and says that Berkut IS someone the people trust. Granted, nothing is ever said explicitly, since otherwise Berkut might actually have reason to join Alm, but that was how I interpreted it at least.
  5. The ideals thing is more of a Clive point than an Alm one, isn’t it? Off the top of my head I can only remember Alm saying that people’s worth should never be determined by the station of their birth, and that his station doesn’t matter, he’s here because he was called. But yes, that is likely a belief Alm holds. Neither he nor Clive is proven wrong in that respect though, since Berkut betraying the few ideals he had directly led to his downfall, and Alm sticking to his even when Clive points out that his position as King must inform his decisions over everything else directly leads to his success in the final fight. As for the station thing, he is still ultimately right since noble and commoner alike kick ass in the final fight. It’s his disdain for nobility that his parentage is a counter-example to, and one that he learns from and grows from. Anyway, what about Mycen? He was a commoner before ascending in the military and eventually becoming a Count, and even Fernand indirectly acknowledges him as such by calling his story “a disgrace to the Zofian nobility”. As well as being a general he was seemingly close with the king until Desaix arranged to drive them apart and have him banished. oh lol seems I was beaten to that point haha. Also whoops forgot to mention @vanguard333 I see. I knew something was up with Naruto but assumed the nine-tails thing was it, so thanks for correcting me on that. So for my metaphor, Alm uses his commoner status to his advantage to win- which to be fair it actually is a factor.
  6. The nitpicky part of me would like to point out that killing your dad is a pretty good way to make your life worse. ok now onto the actual argument. From what I understand, the Naruto thing is predicated on his heritage being a bad thing not just to himself, but it also makes him an outcast to others as well, so him using it as a strength is a sign of growth and plays into the themes of the story. He proves that what was seen as a weakness is actually a strength. That is good, thematically speaking. But I don’t think that’s what Echoes is going for. If we play out that analogy in this game, Alm being king makes him… despised by everyone including himself, and Alm fulfilling the prophecy shows the world that being a king has advantages and can be turned from a weakness into a strength. And while an attitude on kings and nobility so different from the norm would make for an insanely entertaining story in its own right, that’s very clearly not an attitude Echoes takes. Heritage isn’t meant to be a hindrance that you work towards overcoming. Echoes isn’t trying to say that there is inherent value in people no matter what side/heritage they’re from (like Naruto). It’s trying to say that there is inherent value in every side/heritage. Alm’s noble heritage and common background mean he struggles with both the good and the bad of both worlds. He’s been taught the value of humility and hard work yet wants to actually make his mark on the world- and gets visibly pissed when people imply that his station makes him less capable than he is. But he pushes on, his innate strength proves him worthy- and only then does everyone find out that he actually is a king. Now his conflict changes. He now ostensibly has power and nobody can deny it, not even Berkut. But now his actions have more weight, and he has to take on a whole new amount of responsibility. But, again, he pushes through, his ideals, gleaned from his background, keep him grounded in the face of his new position. Throughout the game, that’s the defining link. The weaknesses of one aspect of his history are made up for by the strengths of the other. And he spends most of the game denying this, preferring to be seen as a leader rather than as a king, his blue blood line to Celica in Act 2, and so on and so forth. While he never crosses the line to actively putting nobles down (like Berkut and Fernand to commoners), it’s clear he holds some biases against them, and wants to believe that anyone can make their own way in the world. And, as you say, he’s proven wrong in the end. But he grows from that, he accepts his responsibility, and accepts that he has much to learn from those he had previously dismissed, shown in his attempts to help Berkut in Act 5. Alm’s big character moment isn’t him proving that station doesn’t matter, it’s him realising that it does. Ultimately, the contradiction between Alm’s lineage and his ideals is what causes his growth and fuels the theme of co-operation and finding the middle ground which ties the story together.
  7. My god I go to bed and I miss two pages of this thread lmao It’s a bit of a different kind of dick though. I completely agree that Clive coming across as the “hypocrite” kind of dick in that scene was intended and reinforces that point. In Clives characterisation, dialogue and acting the game does that really well. He’s come so far with Alm and even then he’s still having doubts because of Alm’s “true” heritage, which Gray and Tobin rightly react to, because it’s unfair. But the point is basically that the timing makes him come across as the “manipulative piece of shit” kind of dick as well. Which doesn’t fit with the doubts he has been having throughout the game at this point. Well he does end up having to kill the only two remaining members of his birth family, which I think is a pretty decent consequence of his lineage. Also throughout the game when the topic of Alm being king is brought up he always hates the idea (when Celica confronted him at the end of Act 2, Luthier and Clive at the Sluice gate, etc). It’s a responsibility he never asked for and was never prepared for. A leader of armies and a figure of rebellion, yeah, he could do that. Anything that required more than that? Nope. Being forced to kill the only people who could challenge his right to rule reinforces that idea that his destiny as king is a bittersweet path, and it’s something he could only feasibly accomplish with Celica at his side. me spamming quotes at you be like But nah I just wanted to add that while I can agree with Faye, Rinea, and even kinda Celica I think you’re selling Clair a bit short. Her capture at the beginning ends up making Clive look worse, and colours our initial impression of him (though if you were talking about her rescue by Alm then fair). And (disregarding her performance as an actual unit), she’s a complete badass and I think her arc reflects that pretty well.
  8. Well that’s the issue. You can’t find any evidence in the game to support that it was going to happen the way it did… but purely from a timing standpoint Clive did basically fire Alm as soon as he got what he wanted. If the game had made a point of showing that Clive actively was using Alm and was planning on firing him at that point, then there wouldn’t be an issue. If the game had made Clive have his “I fear I have made a terrible mistake” speech at a different point in the story, maybe after the first Berkut fight or something, then there also wouldn’t be an issue. But as it is I can definitely see the point that Clive comes across as poorly realised. He’s sympathetic and conflicted over his beliefs and what he now knows about Alm, yes, and it does come to a natural head after Mathilda joins them. You could even argue that having Mathilda back is a natural catalyst for Clive to reveal his doubts. But it can definitely look pretty malicious. An argument I’ve heard for Gharnef is that he was actually a reasonably competent villain that planned out pretty well, so it’s a lot more engaging to watch him. It’s impossible to feel the presence of a villain like Anankos when his big actions through the story are “send monsters that go down like paper soldiers”, and you kinda dismiss Jedah as a threat after he mocks you for trying so hard while his face is literally in the mud. Even Validar, while he has his moments of success throughout the story, had a terrible first impression on me since he literally had to get resurrected in like chapter 6 lol. As for Sephiran, my understanding is it’s the backstory that sells it for him- and also again, he does succeed at his plan (his plan was to awaken Ashera and bring her judgement on the continent, right? I still haven’t played tellius), so that probably plays a small part. Between this and the Clive discussion I think this is the most praise I’ve ever seen you give Echoes.
  9. Look as someone who actually really likes Clive Etrurian Emperor has a point here. The story intended Clive to be a conflicted character, yes. The story didn’t want him to be malicious, yes. But Etrurian’s point isn’t that Clive was meant to be malicious, it’s that the timing of his actions lead to him being seen as malicious. Accidentally, without the intention of the writers. Clive never implies that he was going to fire Alim after they rescue Mathilda because it’s not something the writers wanted you to think of him, but by timing it like that the thought inevitably comes up. Which is problematic because it creates a contradiction between how Clive is and how the story unintentionally makes him come off. Granted I honestly don’t think it’s much of a big deal and still think Clive works despite it, but it’s a valid point.
  10. I’m torn between renaming it Nonopath Traveler or just making it Octopaths Traveler to keep the naming convention. Either way sounds pretty broken.
  11. Why use any different voice when the one you have is perfect? That being said the Nanba voice is completely different.
  12. I actually did not realise this was him haha I believe this show also had Billy Kametz (some weird illusory hot guy from episode 2) and Erica Lindbeck (Amity’s sister Emira) oh and also Mela Lee as Kikimora
  13. “VICTORIAAAAAAAAA” legit gave me chills. One of my favourite performances from the guy. Speaking of, while IMDb has him listed as “Additional Voices” I’m 99% sure he plays Orlick in Octopath Traveler And while I’m on the topic of Octopath Chris Hackney Also credited as additional voices, but he played Simeon and Ogen, which I am 100% sure on Greg Chun Alfyn (Octopath), Nanba (Yakuza: Like a Dragon) Ok that’s probably enough Octopath for now Ben Diskin AZI-3 (The Clone Wars, The Bad Batch), WAC-47 (also The Clone Wars) Kyle McCarley Simon (Infinity Train)
  14. Generally speaking it’s a trope I enjoy watching, because it is pretty hype. As for actually analysing it and going “hmm yes this is well done”, it’s something I can usually appreciate, under two conditions A) It’s actually relevant to the character arcs of the protagonist/antagonist (so basically it’s well written, since why is it in a plot if it has nothing to do with the characters. B) The writers use it in new ways that feel more original than “your friends believe in you” or “we’re here for you, let’s win this… together!” Granted, not adhering to this doesn’t make a story automatically bad by any means, but it’ll make me less likely to remember/enjoy it.
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