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  1. But this is just Edelgards perspective on the whole. She says the nobles abuse the common people and drain them of everything they have and that might be true regarding Duke Aegir, Arundel and some other nobles but the game also goes out of its way to show that here are nobles who not prey on the weak. Lonatos men follow him because he convinced them as a Leader same for Rodrigue and many others. The meritocracy she wants to build wouldn´t just solve all problems and instead would create new one. In this regard i side with Dimitri the world she wants to create just benefits the strong ones. And i know you will disagree with me on this point but i guess it is like the Meeting between these two both have valid points for their Beliefs but i could never support someone who only thinks killing other people is the only way to achieve your goal. It´s a simple matter of beliefs and i think you can´t value the life of other people like this for the *greater* good. Regarding Rhea, Edel pinpoints all the blame on the church but the church neither encouraged the caste system nor did they abolish it they simply stood aside. Not the best attitude i agree but i don´t think Rhea would have opposed a social revolution in the Empire. And from there she could have easily reformed the Church in the Empire. Regarding Edelgard and TWSITD in Part 1 i´m not sure how much power she upholds appereantly enough to wrestle Duke Aegir out of his own lands and enough to field Imperial Soldiers at the Holy Tomb. She has the Death Knight at her Disposal and Randolph and Ladislava. So i dont think she has no power to oppose them but again the game is not clear on that. I wondered this myself already but i just thought disaptching *mysterious soldiers* would have alerted the Knights even more onto their plan of Total War since in Chapter 1 or 2 we already get to know that Rhea and Seteth are suspicious of something. And Kostas confirms that his job was just to kill as many nobles as possible in his convo with the Flame Emperor. The theory you mentioned could be possible i also read that people think Edelgard is drawn to Byleth because of her Crest and him housing Sothis. But unless we get more info about her actual thoughts i take Kostas words for the truth. He has little reason to lie to his Contractor. In this regard you might be right but she always fights with all means necessary and is willing to do everything to achieve her goal and since this is the only route where she is offered pardon I simply would assume she´d rather live to maybe have another chance than just dying. Naturally i didn´t assume Dimitri would let her roam free but his route, in my opinion at least, focuses very heavy on the topic of earning your redemption even if it costs you your life. Dimitri first thinks he owes it to the dead people then he swears to live so he can redeem his past sins by serving the living. Gilberts support show a similar mind set. Rodrigue mentions this aswell. I think out of all people Dimitri could have been the one to actually still give her a Chance despite political uproar. But it´s just speculation. Vile might be a strong word but i do think her methods are not morally grey in the least. She is willing to kill innocents even before she declares war on everyone and that is in my opinion hard to justify. And i know this game is all about if you beleive you´re right stick to your ideals but that is in my opinion a very dangerous attitude. But i have to thank you, you gave me some new things to think about.
  2. I just think that this isn´t a problem of the Caste System in particular. I mean do you think not being a noble will stop bad people with wealth at their disposal from doing what they want. I certainly don´t they will just find other ways of doing their misdeeds. And as far as how the Church has allowed this system for millenia the game is somewhat vague. I mean they did grant revolutionary forces autonomy twice in the history of Fodlan so who is to say if they stood against a more peaceful approach to a fundamental change in society? And i know the Flame Emperor isnt responsible for Remire but these are her allies and she still let them do what they pleased. I know that Edelgards dislike for TWSITD is a focus point in her campaign but I simply can´t agree with this attitude of her. Of course in the game the war makes it possible for things to change but that´s because of the game it would be pretty boring if it where just diplomatical banter and now actual fighting. But consider this with Edelgard, Dimitri, Claude and the rest of the students we have a generation of more progressive thinkers that in my opinion could have changed Fodlan for the better without an allout war. Saying that the War is necessary for these changes is like saying WWII was necessary for the formation of the Federal Republic of Germany. In a sense you´re right but on the other hand we will never know how it could have played out differently with maybe less violence. I give you that she should not open up to her peers although with Dimitri and Claude she would have two capable allys at her side. But she does state a certain attraction towards Byleth no matter the gender and no matter the House you teach. For someone who is clever and uses eversthing at her disposal to achieve her goal it seems rather extreme to first try to kill Dimitri and Claude instead of trying to probe them if they would be willing to join forces and share her viewpoint. Here i would argue you insinuate Edelgard knows the whole script. For someone who goes to great lenght to see her goals become reality chosing death and the ambiguity that Dimitri will somehow change the world for the better in a sense that it also befits her legacy is rather naive. Taking his hand on the other hand could allow her to still achieve way more in this scenario Edelgard may never be redeemed for the people of Fodlan but she at least could work towards her goals and against TWSITD. And this is just unnecessary. You can consider her great and i can consider her evil that doesn´t make my interpretation bad. Nonetheless you gave me something to think about.
  3. Hello everyone i just finished the last route and I think there is no FE Character i dislike more than Edelgard except maybe Sonia from Blazing Blade. No matter how hard i try to wrap my head around her reasoning at the end of the day i still think she is wrong and evil. She just sees what she wants to see (Church, Crests, Caste System evil) but in reality the game presents you with equally good examples of the things she declares war on, as it does bad for example Rodrigue or Lorenz as Nobles who use their power for the betterment of the people. The Church providing shelter and support for all the people suffering from the Flame Emperor. There are more examples but i think my point is clear. And in the end no matter how you play the game it always turns out for the better of Fodlan not only because of your Houseleader but also thanks to all your Students for example Ferdie becomes a great ruler no matter what, Petra renegotiates Brigids terms and works for better relations etc... So all Edelgard accomplished is start a war that cost many peoples life claiming doing something else would cost more... laughable. Furthermore I can never accept someone who thinks the end justifies the means. Hiring Bandits to kill Dimitri and Claude is sick. Kidnapping an innocent *Child* (Flayn) for her blood and what not, also sick. Stealing Crest Stones to turn people into monsters very dubious. General Luigi and others pointed out why Edelgard worked with TWSITD but that doesn´t make it any better even worse if you ask me since she knew what they were capable of and honestly i can´t understand why she would work with these monsters instead of maybe opening up about their true nature to the professor or her peers. In the AM route i think it becomes very clear that she is just evil when you finally defeat her and she still tries to kill Dimitri who is even reaching a hand out to her. I´m glad i played this route last because i think i could never stomach a CF run after witnessing what this vile woman is capable of. These are my 2 Cents at least I can´t find a way to sugarcoat her behaviour. Sorry for bad english.
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