Thatinsaneone

I agree. This sounds amazing! I'm not an expert of Briggid, but that could be nice. The miniarcs could also happen possibly after the events of three houses to give a glimpse into how the world is changing. But not only that, it could also have other countries as well. Show us the neighbors of fodlan so we know more about the world. It was nice in awakening to leave Ylisse and see what else is nearby, the same with fates and the other small nations. Build apon this world people love, and maybe you can give small golden endings to these characters in their miniarc. A good compromise yeah?

I understand people want a golden route, and I'm not trying to say that anyone who wants it should be banned from the game. I understand people want to save every character (a noble thought) but sometimes we cannot. We cannot save scarlet in revelations, and she was a member of the party. I just don't like playing a game and knowing that my choices don't matter when you set up your game as "Who you choose will determine who lives and who dies." That was an issue with fates, but is fixed in Three Houses since you can recruit people. And that really helps! My first playthrough I managed to only get Bernie, Ashe, and Sylvain to join me. And because of that, at the end of the game I wanted to go back through new game + to save everyone I can! Yet I still understand that, since I picked verdant wind, edelgard will die and as much as I disliked how he met his end, Dimitri will as well. Just because I realize that someone will die doesn't mean I'm happy for it. I was mad and upset over the fact that Dimitri died in the way he did, and that he even died! But that helped me, as my byleth, get more fuel to end the war. As a motivation in the story as to not let him be forgotten, and to avenge him for he shouldn't have been taken out like that. But hey, I understand that death is a hard thing and some people don't want that. I don't mean to sound completely on the "No don't do it" side, it's just that after revelations and after just replaying it last month and seeing how poorly the story held up(I almost gave up to play literally anything else) I just am hesitant to say yes, let's do this. And from what I've read many people are as well. So while my opinions say no, I'm also understanding that there are many people who do. I am not fully against a golden route, despite everything I've said, but implementing this route would be hard, and some people are more critical than you or me. They hear this and immediately hate it. Why I keep suggesting after the expansion pass is done, make another DLC(not $20 like revelations, maybe $15 or something) that is a golden route, and state that it is. That way, if you want it you can get it and if you don't want it, it's not cramped down your throat since you have already purchased it. It's not the best solution I know, but it's a solution if they are willing to make it. Or, you know, mod the game. That works to. Probably would work abit better... maybe?

You think I don't know that? Why when I first played a fire emblem game, Awakening, I felt so horrible over Emmeryn's death that I felt like I did something wrong and almost restarted the whole game to see if I could save her. The same goes for Ryoma in Conquest. But these games try to show us something. War is never a pretty thing. And these two characters showed me something that many war based games cannot come close to making me feel, deep utter sadness. Like I failed these characters lives. And that's what I believe Intelligence Systems is going for. You can't save everyone, someone you care about or even love could possibly be a victim of war. And while we can imagine what ifs, we cannot truly bring them back. Like, I would love for Ryoma to come back and help guide Hoshido at the end of Conquest, but I know he cannot. A golden route would just be a way of "hey buddy, you don't have to be sad that you made a choice in siding with Edelgard/Dimitri/Claude thus having to kill x y z, instead you can do this route and everyone lives! *confetti streamers*" and I get it, gives people a happy ending for every character, but let's look back at revelations. When this route was placed, it was the canonical ending. It made the other two choices seem, let's be frank, pointless! Why play both routes when you know that they don't matter, because it's not what happened. Why I love Three Houses as your choices, at least to me, feel like they matter. Or at least made more impact than in fates. Because all I felt in fates was boredom, anger at the story, and only in conquest I felt horror and pity. It's a bad thing when, as you mentioned, you want to save all the characters because you have attached to them yet in fates besides the royal characters and about 3 or 4 of the retainers I didn't feel anything or give a single care to any character. I just don't want the same to happen to any of the people I met in the monastery to become faceless husks of character tropes like it was in fates. And that's a legit fear I have of a golden route becoming if its made. Why I suggested after the expansion pass is finished depending on how well recieved wave 4 is and blended into the game, then maybe give it a try as a side story, one established very, VERY, early on is not cannon, no where near cannon. That way, it doesn't ruin the main game. Or you know, you could always mod the game. Then we don't have to worry about it being cannon, as then its a fan game. But hey, that's just my view on this mess.

But wasn't Revelations a DLC golden route end? Look, I agree we are sounding like we are arguing, we totally are, but let's look at the past. We tries once already, and that had plot holes and us talking to ghosts. Revelations was a, pardon my language and bluntness, and cluster fuck story that doesn't really stand up. I just finished replaying it, I did not want to go back and experience the story again. Completely different from Three Houses, where despite me just finishing one route, I totally wanted to go back and replay that route and the others. People, like myself, are afraid of how this golden route will go. Because it can totally ruin what is good in the game. Not to mention that sometimes when golden routes are made, they make characters do out of character things. From the sound of it, we all love these characters and want the best for them. But sometimes you have to realize that you can't save everyone. This isn't Undertale, this isn't a moral game, this is a game about war. And it's trying to show that sometimes, you can't save everyone. And in war, some people will die. I would be ok if a golden route maybe comes out as a side story(depending on how well ashen wolves is) after the main wave of DLC comes out. Because if it's a side story, maybe. Then its established as a spin off, not cannon. That would fix the problem fates had, who you aligned with, that choice doesn't matter, because it's not cannon. But, I would only think it comes out after the expansion pack has been filled. That way, people who don't want it aren't forced into seeing what they deem as a shitty waste of time.

But with the almyrians isn't it kinda established that it's their culture? Listen to some of claude's supports. Almyrians hate the people of fodlan because they see them as weak and cowardly. It's a reason why they don't get along. I will agree there are moments of Verdant Wind that get very Shounen, but that's not bad. It works well and helps with the character arc that is happening with claude.

a part of me likes the sound of this. But then I remember actual revelations. It shouldn't be a thing in three houses. Sure, I love these characters and what them all to be happy but look at what these games tell us bout the characters? This also applies to birthright and conquest. There is nothing good from war. People you care about, ultimately have a chance for death. I've only played Golden Deer to completion and at first, I had hoped there was revelations. But when I played revelations sure it might have cleared my questions from conquest, but it failed in many ways and raised more questions. Three houses, while on the verdant wind path, sure I wanted Dimitri to live, but I knew deep down he probably will be one of the faces buried. Its inevitable. The same could be said playing azure moon. I don't want to hurt edelgard or claude, or any of the former cast, but it is something we as the player must realize could happen. So don't wish for something that isn't. Because like conquest and birthright, it can downright spoil and ruin what you and everyone else love about three houses, while undermined the point this game and fates were trying to make. And even then, why would the house leaders join? Claude and Dimitri maybe, but why would edelgard? Having her join and be buddy-buddy with Dimitri will just be horribly out of her character. Once again, take a look at revelations, remember its a dumpster fire that caused conquest and birthright to have a lower value and be the one that you remember isn't cannon! Seriously, good idea, but would make no sense in game.