[Conquest Lunatic Chapter 20]

Was a madman who felt like replaying Conquest Lunatic.  Is this enough enemies on screen?

[How many Fire Emblem games do you actually like?]

Keeping it to the games I've played:

Path of Radiance, Radiant Dawn, Awakening, Fates Conquest, and Shadows of Valentia, are all the ones I enjoyed playing.

Blazing Sword, Sacred Stones, Shadow Dragon, Fates Birthright, and Heroes are Ok, and Fates Revelation is the only game I didn't enjoy.

Three Houses is in an odd spot where I don't know how much I like it overall.  I don't enjoy playing Part 1 at this point because of the map design mixed with everyone's low movement at the start, and having to do all the monastery stuff to unlock all of it's resources (especially on repeat playthroughs), so it's become a barrier to replay.  I do enjoy seeing how much my units have progressed in Part 2, but it's also the point where the monastery activities start feeling pointless, so I skip them.

I'm in the middle of playing Binding Blade for the first time, so I can't fairly say anything about it yet.

[Radiant Dawn drought.]

2 hours ago, Jotari said:

I agree, he would be better, I wasn't being entirely serious. Though I was sort of serious about the Jill thing.

 

28 minutes ago, Othin said:

Jill/Edward/Nolan/Leonardo banner plus Jarod GHB sounds lovely.

It makes no difference to me who would get the Resplendent slot.  I mentioned Sothe because he's also a Dawn Brigade member, and part of me doubts that he'll get a Legendary even though he fits the bill for one.  Jill fits for a Resplendent because of her character growth in Path of Radiance despite not being plot important.

Edward/Leonardo/Nolan are the main ones I care about, and still think Jarod would be a good GHB unit.  Can respect how he held nothing back as a villain.

[Radiant Dawn drought.]

49 minutes ago, Jotari said:

Meh, Grand Hero Battle Nolan

And have another Axe Infantry grail unit?  No thanks.  Jarod would be better because of the lack of Lance Infantry units as grail options.

[Radiant Dawn drought.]

2 hours ago, GrandeRampel said:

One of Leonardo/Nolan will have be booted off the banner to make space for Laura/Meg/Fiona tho. Otherwise no female character on the banner itself which has never happened.

Even though they've done 5 female only banners, but knowing them you're likely right.

[Radiant Dawn drought.]

4 hours ago, Sasori said:

The dawn Brigade isn't even in yet at all.

 

3 hours ago, Jotari said:

They still haven't touched the Dragon Laguz yet though (outside of seasonals), which I feel they'll have to soon since they're some of the only regular Dragon units left in the series.

If Radiant Dawn were to get a new banner, I'd much prefer it being a Dawn Brigade banner and not another Laguz banner.  Laguz units have gotten a decent amount of seasonal slots since they were added to FEH, while a Dawn Brigade banner would be easy to do.  Edward, Leonardo, and Nolan each have their own Prf weapons, and if they still wanted to do an Ascended unit, they have Sothe.

[Radiant Dawn drought.]

To list off everyone who's left:

Not in at all:

Edward, Leonardo, Nolan, Laura, Aran, Meg, Volug, Fiona, Heather, Danved (different character then Devdan), Nealuchi (wasn't playable in Path of Radiance so I'm counting him here),  Renning, Skirmir, and Gareth (same reason as Nealuchi).

Missing their base version:

Rafiel, Vika, Kyza, Lyre, Sephiran/Lehran, and Kurthnaga.

Grand Hero Battle Candidates:

Jarod, Ludveck, Valtome, Lekain, Dheginsea (you don't fight him in Path of Radiance so I'm counting him here), and Izuka (same reason as Dheginsea).

[Radiant Dawn drought.]

Radiant Dawn has by far the longest drought of any game of getting a dedicated New Heroes banner, with the last one being over 3 years ago.  It's gotten a seasonal banner and base versions of a few characters since then (most recent one was Pelleas), but it's mostly been alts (mainly Micaiah and Nailah) or Path of Radiance banners for Tellius.  What do you all think of this?

[Special Heroes: Bridal Blossoms]

6 minutes ago, Sunwoo said:

They couldn't use FE6!Eliwood because it's a Harmonic.

Right.  Guess I forgot because of seeing them so close to each other in age.

[Special Heroes: Bridal Blossoms]

12 minutes ago, Sunwoo said:

They literally put in Roy's possible wives as the non-Roy options ... but they chose already-has-an-alt-is-literally-his-teacher Cecilia over Sue, who doesn't have an alt.

IS did their usual "We NEED tits on this banner" approach.

12 minutes ago, Sunwoo said:

The only good thing about this banner is the Roy and Eliwood Harmonic.

Baffling that didn't use FE6 Eliwood to fit in with the rest of the banner.  At least Groom Roy is an Axe Cavalier.

[Worst unit in each game?]

On 5/8/2022 at 1:25 AM, Jotari said:

Course Hana has her own problems joining super late in Revalation without being balanced for it, if I remember correctly.

Hana joins after clearing chapter 8 in Rev, so 2 chapters later then in Birthright.  Her bases and starting level are all the same, except for having 2 less Strength in Rev for some reason.  Only decent thing about her is that there's still not many other units when she joins, so she has more time to be trained unlike others who join later.  Nyx, Effie, and Arthur are examples of how bad Rev's unit balance is.

[Worst unit in each game?]

3 hours ago, Dark Holy Elf said:

In 8 he can one-round the mages pretty easily. Can get one by sitting at the edge of their range on enemy phase, then kill another on player phase.

He can also one-round non-buffed archers in Conquest 9 pretty easily. The buffed near Haitaka ones, maybe not, but I don't even care about one-rounding them. You can lure them through the wall to attack one at a time with whoever. He's also gonna grab that chest in 9.

In 10 there's a ballista and then lots of fliers for him to kill.

In 11 there are two chests for him to open at worst.

I think he has plenty of uses past that but quite frankly even if we bench him as soon as Kaze joins, he has pulled his weight enough to not be relevant for discussion in this thread.

Said pretty much everything that he can contribute towards in Conquest early game.  Chapter 10 is the last chapter where everyone is free to deploy (unless you get Mozu, which you'd have to bench one unit).  I normally decide if I want keep him on my main squad at chapter 17, but I always use him up until that point (besides chapter 15 since he can't go) cause there's something he can contribute towards in each chapter.

[Worst unit in each game?]

8 hours ago, Shadow Mir said:

naive idealism and little else.

 

7 minutes ago, FailWood said:

Those reasons I stated a while back were based off of personal experience from playing AND beating Conquest, and he proved invaluable for a while.

Here's proof.

[Worst unit in each game?]

7 hours ago, Shadow Mir said:

I won't waste time when those reasons are most likely naive idealism and little else.

Those reasons I stated a while back were based off of personal experience from playing AND beating Conquest, and he proved invaluable for a while.

I know I've been an asshole here sometimes, but at least I don't try to claim other people's reasonings for something as "naive idealism".  Who says shit like that?

[Worst unit in each game?]

11 hours ago, Alastor15243 said:

Zoran, who knows more about how to break Conquest in half at speed than anyone I've ever seen, seems to be of the opinion, judging by what he says about her in his "use everyone" playthrough, that the worst unit in Conquest is Nyx. About at 17:30 in this video, he talks about her:

Says pretty much all of her issues: Poor Skill and Luck so her accuracy is bad, Heartseeker and Countercurse can't be used safely due to her low HP and overall survivability being bad (Countercurse is an inconsequential personal skill to begin with).

Wasn't he the same person who showed how Odin can Nosferatu Tank well?

[Worst unit in each game?]

3 hours ago, Shadow Mir said:

We've been over this before - I don't have the patience for failure, and especially not for someone like him, who makes failure a habit. It isn't like he has much in the way of redeeming features either. . . i mean, he has high speed, Whoopedy-freaking-do. Too bad it means jackshit when he has nothing else to go with it.

We have, which is why I don't feel the need to explain again why I think you're severely underrating how useful he is.

My original pick for worst Conquest unit was Charlotte, but I can see a case for Mozu being it after she was mentioned.

[Stat blessed and stat screwed.]

3 hours ago, ciphertul said:

I don’t really pay much attention to average stats but I had some wildly different Sains during Blazing Blade runs.

I only pay attention to them in FE games before the 3DS era.

[Stat blessed and stat screwed.]

12 hours ago, Zapp Branniglenn said:

These Three Houses examples really floor me because, unless you're one of the Faculty units, there's a failsafe in place to ensure you get minimum two stat ups on level up.

Wait, is that actually a thing?

[Stat blessed and stat screwed.]

4 hours ago, Eltosian Kadath said:

This poor Flroina that I forced all the way to level 12, despite never gaining strength, and thus having less strength than her No-Lyn mode base strength.

She's -4 Strength compared to her average.

I forgot to take pics when I noticed these, but in the same playthrough, my Eliwood had capped Defense at level 15 promoted, which is +8 compared to his average, and had a Lyn who was level 18 promoted and had 10 Resistance, which is -5 compared to her average.

[Alts need more variety.]

3 hours ago, Yexin said:

no i haven't, i was busy and barely got a free minute to write my previous post; also i'm happy that others had the time to make "better points", i just felt like sharing my opinion on the matter, be it "good" or "bad"

anyway, no, i actually do not care about any kind of representation that isn't "every game deserves a moment to shine at least once in a year, especially underrepresented/poorly represented games such as Thracia", but even then, i'd be happy even if just 2 of my favorite characters either get an alt or are added to the game at all, such as Arthur with the latest Genealogy banner or Rhea with the Fallen banner: that's literally all it takes to make me say "ok, this year's been great"

color representation IMHO is the most random thing ever and is purely functional to matters such as color distribution in a specific banner, so i don't think it deserves my concern

same goes for movement types: i personally hate armored units but i have a +10 winter Manuela because i like her character a lot

different body types in summer banners? yeah, never gonna happen: their "sex sells" mentality is just too important not to milk (please laugh) their most visually appealing characters, especially female ones

i don't want to disregard others' opinions, of course, so be free to disagree with me, but this is what i think

I had a feeling you didn't read the others before.  I thought the first response from you was going to be one of those kinds where it's just contrarian for the sake of being so, but you came back to further explain yourself.

Apologies.  It's something I face plenty on forums.

5 hours ago, Ice Dragon said:

Some of us literally don't care about what units get in the game as long as our favorites get in. That opinion is no less valid than the other opinions in this thread.

I had no issues with their opinion, but I did want more input and my response on this reply to them explains why I did what I did, and I even apologized.  Meanwhile, you come in and try to slam me for saying what I said without contributing anything worthwhile to the conversation yourself or waiting to see if my question to them was founded (which it was, as they said they didn't read the other responses before posting their first response).  Shame on you.

[Alts need more variety.]

1 hour ago, Yexin said:

i honestly don't care about this kind of representation:

Have you bothered reading some of the other responses?  Better points were made, like not wanting the same weapon type on different versions of one character (Ephraim, Marth, and Ike) or not wanting a similar stat distribution across alts (Micaiah).  Besides, what I said at the start was just an example, it's not the only thing.

 

1 hour ago, Yexin said:

 

 

[Stat blessed and stat screwed.]

Playing Blazing Sword again, and have gotten gotten one character extremely blessed in one stat, and another character extremely screwed in one stat.

Dorcas here is +8 in Speed compared to his average, and Lowen is -6 in Strength compared to his average.  Neither have received any stat boosters, and both reached level 20 before being promoted.

What are some stat extremes you've had before that don't involve stat boosters or early promoting (+5 or -5 at the minimum)?

 

[Alts need more variety.]

1 hour ago, Othin said:

Niime is a character I very much looked forward to, personally.

I know she has her fans.  Her having A rank in both Dark Magic and Staves at base in FE 6 late game is great.  ...Binding Blade is a game I really want to play.  Played all of the mainline games that made it overseas.

[Ike is just a worse Sigurd]

7 minutes ago, CyberZord said:

What about Path of Radiance made you make it your new favorite over your previous fave?

1: The Prologue to Chapter 9.

I like how the game focuses on the Greil Mercenaries both in terms of story and gameplay (The only non Greil Mercs you play as in this timespan are Mia, Illyana, and Marcia), so you have plenty of time to decide who you want to stick around from that group.  I also like the interactions between the Mercs.

2: The Base.

It's the perfect amount of downtime between chapters, letting you have base conversations with your allies and prepare for the next chapter, without being overbearing or unlimited like in games that after.

3: Ike

I like how straight forward and honest his character is.  Sure, the timing isn't always appropriate, and his personality could be viewed as boring to others, but I think he hits that sweet spot.  Also helps that he can have some good one liners too.  I also like him as a unit.  He's neither super overpowered nor lacking in something like other main characters in the series.  He fits right in, no matter who fights beside him.

...Those are just some things I like about the game.  I'm glad I was able to get it.

[Alts need more variety.]

2 hours ago, LoneStar said:

I'm curious what alternatives would you propose? In terms of the females I don't think there's much more in terms of body type variety.

That's the problem with female character designs in Fire Emblem, they very rarely branch outside of those 3 body types I mentioned so the lack of something different can lead to being stale (The main series sticking to one kind of Pegasus Knight design until Awakening and Fates comes to mind).  You mentioned Meg and Candice, but another female who's different is Niime, but I don't think anyone is in any rush to want a senior citizen either.  At least with males they branch out more often, having more stocky types like Benny and Valbar, muscular guys like Raphael, FE10 Ike, and Balthus, and even older men like FE6 Marcus, Duessel, and Nomah.

An idea I have for the sake of variety is having someone like Gatrie (Either his  Path of Radiance or Radiant Dawn version) on a Summer banner.  He's a beefy guy, and so far the only character like that on a summer banner is Helbendi.  Make him use a Sword.

Another idea is having Oliver on a Winter banner.  I'm surprised that he doesn't have an alt yet, and I think he'd fit in with the theme of gift giving.  Maybe write him to have a new look on life after what happened in Radiant Dawn, and make him a Staff user.

The only idea I have at the moment for a female character is maybe have Candice on either the Pirate or Ninja banner.  Problem is, besides her size being unpopular, she has very little to go on as a Fates prison unit who gets no supports.