Skelezomperman

This is an interesting topic. I think that the Loptrians work in long-term. Manfroy himself seemed to be willing to wait the 30 years or so to produce Julius. His assassination might throw a curveball but even in a worst case scenario where Loptous gets hidden away, I think the Loptrians would still find a way to hang on and devise a new plan to get Loptous in the hands of Julius or his descendants. As a result I think Arvis or whoever killed Manfroy would have to lead a campaign to suppress the Loptrians in some fashion, or at least actually control them instead of foolishly thinking that they wouldn't be able to do something really bad. As far as what would happen if Seliph/Leif still tried to rebel without Loptous in power, I very much do not think they would be the bad guys. Keep in mind that in countries outside of Grannvale, Arvis had deposed the rightful rulers and put despots like Dannan, Bloom, and Hilda in control. In countries like Isaach and Leonster, the picture wasn't rosy before Julius took power; there were abuses committed against the population, and the villagers are really happy to see Seliph overthrow the Grannvalians not just because of Loptous but because they don't want to be a colony of Grannvale. Perhaps Grannvale itself would be more split and they'd be less willing to welcome Seliph, but outside of Grannvale the people would probably still support him.