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  1. I always forget about Tantivity :P As for Gregor!Yarne, it's a solid option if you're going for a niche 100% DS team setup, but Virion!Yarne achieves the same SKL, has access to Bowfaire, & improves Morgan's SPD. Obviously Virion is in higher demand as well, but he's better if he's available.
  2. Gregor's unfortunately kind of limited as a father. No procs (so not Owain, Inigo, Nah) or +Hit skills (not Yarne). So his ideal children already have a proc and are not hard supports. Gregor!Brady is also a solid option if you REALLY want a physical Brady. Gregor!Noire or Gregor!Kjelle are also fine as options for non-GF females. Kjelle has better Speed (45 as a Hero for example) while Noire has a niche Double Bow Sniper thing if you want to do that (though her SPD kinda sucks). Gregor!Gerome was a popular one for Berserker & Armsthrift, but he lacks any +Hit Skills that Gerome wants so badly, forcing you to run Dual Support+ & breakers.
  3. He means the Support character of the Pair Up. As in, the one that's in the back (i.e. the doing the Dual Strikes & Dual Guards). I forget if Underdog works on characters as the Support, but it's just +15 Hit that doesn't help your partner (unlike Hex or Anathema), and is more conditional and less beneficial than Hit+20.
  4. The main appeal of Lon'qu!Severa over Virion!Severa is that the 1 extra speed allows you to hit 50 SPD as a Hero with AS+2, and grants Swordfaire to use as Hero. That's pretty much it; by comparison Virion also grants Archer (for a Sniper build, or potential BK) & Tomefaire. In the end though, Virion's just generally more coveted as a father compared to Lon'qu. Lon'qu doesn't give a proc (so not good for Owain or Inigo) and doesn't give +Hit skills (so not good for Gerome or Yarne), which heavily limits his options.
  5. It's a good list, but Stahl is listed twice, married to both Olivia & Nowi. Honestly, assuming Stahl goes to Inigo, it might be better off to ditch Nah since pretty much all of her preferred fathers are gone (Vaike, Stahl, Henry, etc.). A potential option would be to move Libra off Miriel --> Olivia to free up Stahl for Nowi, since Laurent can really take any father and still be good; Gregor is a popular one for flexibility, while Kellam will just preserve his Mag mod better. In any case, 1 Gale + 1 hard Support is preferred. There's a lot more flexibility in having 2 actions per pair. So something like Owain x Nah & Noire x Laurent would probably be preferable in this scenario.
  6. Yeah, that's true, but for people who don't want to run maximum number of combat pairs, or for people who've already given away all of Gerome's good fathers, it's certainly an option to simply ditch him to improve the overall quality of your other pairings. And Libra!Gerome @Sage is usable, but he's pretty much a flat out worst Laurent :| I'm no Yoshi, but MU x Chrom is still great. MU's class will depend on her mods (listing them would help with builds :P), while Chrom will run a cookie cutter Support build as Bow Knight or Sniper (Dual Strike+ | Aggressor | Bowfaire | Hit+20). Sumia will likely want to marry Henry, making Cynthia magically-inclined for a Dark Flier or Valkyrie build. Frederick is another option, but he's generally considered inferior due to his massive mod clash with Sumia, which kind of kills Cynthia's SPD mod. From there, it's really up to you, Czar's listed pairings are all solid.
  7. There's basically no reason to run him, Stahl!Owain and even Fred!Owain do it much better. I just did it for the hell of it since I've never run Vaike!Owain before, and it's not like I need to optimize him at all since he's on the bench most of the time.
  8. Yep, though it's definitely possible that you just don't use Gerome, in which case Henry could be used elsewhere. If you're running 6 combat pairs (including Chrom), or 7 with another 1st gen pair, then you have 3 children not being used, in which case it's definitely possible for Gerome to just be ignored. My current run is only 6 combat pairs, so Gerome (Kellam!Gerome), Owain (Vaike!Owain), and Nah (Libra!Nah) are not being fielded, which really let me optimize my other pairs. So it's really dependent on your team composition, and any biases you may have for particular children :P
  9. Team-wise, it really depends on the team composition, and it's pretty hard to judge objectively. Gaius!Kjelle is probably better, since +5 SPD hits more thresholds in various classes & Kjelle makes better use of the various new physical classes than Noire. +4 SPD is also unfortunate for Noire, since it means she just misses out on 45 SPD Sniper, amongst other things. However, you have to factor in Donnel's usage. Donnel!Kjelle > Donnel!Noire as well, so a lot of the time it'll boil down to team composition and personal preference. For example, my current run didn't have a Sniper, so on a whim I decided to run Gaius!Noire @Sniper w/AS+2 & Berserker support. This meant the less optimal Donnel!Kjelle, who I settled for @Paladin with AS+2 & Assassin support.
  10. ... ? You should definitely have at least 1 more dad than mom, even if you're a Female Avatar marrying a 1st gen father. Unless one of them died ... Anyways, for me personally, disregarding your other pairings I'd run: Cherche x Ricken = you get Archer + Mage access & balanced mods so you can run Support Sage, Sniper, BK, etc. Panne x Libra = pretty mediocre mod clash, but gains Dark Mage auras for Support Berserker Miriel x Lon'qu = basically only gives Vantage, but he'll run Support Sage well enough regardless Tharja x Gregor = very good non-GF physical Noire If you need magical Noire, exchanging Libra & Gregor is an option, though Yarne loses out on consistent Hit
  11. Who are your leftover fathers then? Hopefully there's someone better left for Gerome, but if not then you might just have to settle for Lon'qu!Gerome (assuming you don't want to rerun the same pairings).
  12. Lon'qu is less desirable in general (no proc, no Archer, no Dark Mage), so he's probably more likely to end up with Cordelia since Severa needs none of these. He only really works with Severa & Brady, potentially Laurent if you want to VV. Virion has Archer access, so Yarne & Gerome both want him, in addition to Brady & Severa.
  13. Hey there, recognize your username from GFaqs. Welcome to SF! +MAG / -DEF is great. You get +2 SPD and +4 MAG out of the deal to set up for a great magical Morgan, and defensive mods are pretty much worthless in Apotheosis assuming you're running Limit Breaker. +SPD / -DEF is also very popular, but Sumia!Lucina's SPD mod is so high that it's mostly unnecessary unless you want Morgan to run a niche low-SPD class. 2nd gen marriages are great, and a lot more popular nowadays. Way back when, 1st gen marriages were all the rage since you get 2 Morgans and whatnot. But it often doesn't make as good use of Avatar as a combat unit unless you marry Cordelia or Sumia, and you lose out on a super Morgan. In the end, Henry!Gerome @Berserker will be marginally better than Avatar @Berserker due to having slightly higher STR. However, Avatar has more flexibility (can run Sage, etc. depending on his mods) and of course, you get Aether!Morgan.
  14. He's kinda crappy aside from his mods, unfortunately :\ Gerome wants a +Hit skill preferably, which Lon'qu doesn't give him, and he doesn't make use of Lon'qu's excellent SPD modifier either. As Czar said, Henry, Virion, or Stahl would all be preferable, even Libra if he's available simply for Dark Mage auras.
  15. Ah, OK, thanks! I'll theorycraft the rest of my team first before deciding then. Anyways, my current team is only running 6 combat pairs (I traditionally ran 7 just so I could have more characters to grind :P), so I have room for 5 staffbots + Olivia. My current staffbots are: Nanna & Raquesis, both @Falcon Knight wielding Shocksticks (managed to find 2 of them luckily :D) Limit Breaker, Lancefaire, Anathema, Hex, Charm Micaiah & Celica, both @Valkyrie wielding Valflame (need to grind DLC for the 2nd one :() Limit Breaker, Tomefaire, Acrobat, Mag+2, AS+2 <-- should I just run auras instead ? I don't know what to do for the last one. Was thinking just a Falcon Knight (reclassed Ursula) with all +Hit stuff since I don't have another Shockstick (Anathema, Hex, Dual Support+, ?). I don't know what to run for the last slot, since I originally ran Demoiselle before realising it only increases Avo / Crit Avo.
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