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Posts posted by California Mountain Snake
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I'm just curious, but does nobody think about the mental trauma you cause to the other passengers in the car, when during an accident you go flying out the windshield and die because you decided to be the cool kid and not wear a seatbelt? I mean seriously, unless you have a death wish, what's the problem with wearing a seatbelt?
Yeah, it's awful. People who don't wear seatbelts are making a stupid choice for themselves and a selfish choice for their family and loved ones. But that doesn't mean it should be a law.
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And that jib would be... fucking clueless?
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If your going to actively complain about the big bad government making you wear a seat belt then I think you need a slap, but as far as I'm concerned it's a person's choice not to wear a seat belt, and considering the number of deaths from flying unbuckled bodies is minuscule compared to say, the amount of cellphone related collisions and fatalities, I'd say holding up the safety argument for why this law should happen before many other safe driving laws is a thin argument. Basically, what 'Bus said.
I'm just glad that Vermont still lets people ride in the bed of a pickup if all the seats in the cab are filled with buckled passengers.
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How wonderful that you've brought this topic was brought back to life with your insightful post.
To play devil's advocate though, does the article explicitly state that this was a public pool club? I only ask because if the club were private, would it not be the right of the club owner to deny entry to customers he does not wish to serve, even for racist reasons? Of course if this club was on land zoned for public use, or received public funding or tax breaks for opening its doors to the community then it would be obliged to follow federal anti-discriminatory regulation. But assuming it was privately owned, would they not as private club have the right to make the choice of denying these kids entry for whatever reason they choose, and accept the possible consequences of racist actions in the 21st century?
The reason I mention this is because a while back a Church in New Jersey lost funding because they refused to allow a gay wedding ceremony to take place on its premises, which of course got conservatives in a tizzy because they claimed it "violated the private rights of the church make its own choices," and this was held up as an example of how the gay agenda is destroying American values. Of course it later came to light that the church was only receiving this funding because they zoned the church as a "community center" to take advantage of extra tax breaks, which meant they had to follow New Jersey anti-discrimination statues. This led me to wonder if this pool was taking advantage of similar public funding, and if it was not, whether there's really anything anyone can do about it beside make a shit storm and generate bad press to keep people away from the place.
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Oh right. I forgot to mention that I got drunk a few times and made some really stupid posts in the FE4 Thread.
Though now that I think about, really stupid posts in FE4 Thread aren't all that uncommon, so I guess that really wasn't worth mentioning.
... Please tell me "and then I found 5 dollars."
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Quick question: Would the Red Cross ever know if you've had sex with another man if you didn't list it in your profile?
Yes, they can tell by looking at you. Just like doctors can tell if you masturbate a lot.
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If you want to lie, of course you can get away with it. Same goes for Don't Ask, Don't Tell. If you want to do it, then just don't tell. But that's not the point. These policies still target homosexuals unfairly and perpetuate discrimitory social mores.
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The debate over gay marriage comes up so frequently that often people forget that there are other issues on the counter, or that there are other things homosexuals care about than getting married.
Looking beyond the issue of same-sex marriage reveals the kind of out-and-out discrimination that goes on without the guise religion to "justify" it. People were pissed about prop 8? That's nothing compared to the fact that during that same election cycle Florida became the fifth state to make it illegal for homosexuals to adopt children. Not only does this heralds back to the discriminatory link many draw between homosexuals and pedophilia (which is needless to say baseless), but it stands as a slap in the face saying: we would rather have these kids go to an under qualified couple or live a shit life in an orphanage than grow up with a couple of queers. In countless other ways roadblocks still exist. The Don't Ask, Don Tell policy of the American military. The fact that the Red Cross still will not accept blood from men who have ever had sex with another man.
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Sole Survivor of the Banhammer
Your title is incorrect.
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Was waiting for me.
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Oh great he's seventeen.
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Hey Johnny!
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Chris Pine. Looks only.
Aren't you a guy?
Duh. That's what makes it hot.
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Above poster fails.
Also, note for the mods: restore the ability for members to edit titles to fix typos.
I'll be monitoring your frequency.
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Out of the chair.
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Oui pronounced "wee" is actually quite dated. Most French people say oui like "way" now, and Quebecois almost always pronounced it as a nasal "wah".
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Chris Pine. Looks only.
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I am dissapointed by the lack of signature or avatar images.
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Okay. I don't know jack about the twenty-fouth century.
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Not quite. He doesn't like that we're laughing at him.
It's called rule 14.
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Actually, I never read it.
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They're just boobs.
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I'm hungry!
BLARGBLARGHARRRRR
The Battle Over Mandatory Seat Belts
in Serious Discussion
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My Grandmother was a diabetic, and while driving home one day on a twisty Vermont mountain road some years ago, she passed out. Her car flew off the road at 60 miles an hour and hit a tree head-on in mid-air. When she left the road her body was thrown into the passenger side seat because she wasn't wearing a seat belt, and when she hit the tree the steering wheel on the drivers side, back in the day before steering wheels collapsed on impact, was shoved backwards with such force that it cut the drivers side seat in half. Had she been wearing her seat belt, she would have been dead.
Does this mean not wearing your seat belt is a good idea? No. It's just an anecdote, and anecdotes don't prove much in terms of statistical analysis.
The government deserves to collect revenue from fines on stupidity? That makes a lot of sense, especially since one could argue the government only needs money because of past stupidity right now.