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The thread's pretty old and this post doesn't really have much information in it, especially since it's post-release, but have fun! [spoiler=Trailers] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYsqzT7Gilk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RIxzmN9EMI

Let's all come together to decide what these skins are. They better not be random, and I hope the dragon form will be colored accordingly. Also sorry if this topic already exists

A multiple choice poll. Choose Fighters that you think needs Nerfs or Buffs and why? First off. Buff Ike and Nerf Greninja. Nerf - Next, make Roy's sour spot a little larger. Nerf - Greninja Buff - Give Marth a grab combo. Just a little. Buff - Mii Sword Fighter just needs one. Nerf - Sanic just needs to stop being so boring. Buff - Samus needs better ground game and projectile game. Buff - Ike Nerf - Luigi's grab game... juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust a little. A tad. You get the point.

I searched around and didn't find a topic for this yet so I figured I'd make one since others along with myself have enjoyed the Fire Emblem fanart thread. Especially since there is so much good fan art of Smash out there. Like with the Fire Emblem Fanart thread make sure we are all posting within the SF forum rules. No hotlinking, keep images appropriate, spoiler your images (particulalry if you have multiple ones or if they are large), and try your best to source the images that you post here. As long as its Smash related then feel free to share it here although don't forget to check out the Fire Emblem Fanart thread found here: http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=38351 Of course if it has characters exclusive to Fire Emblem or is centered around Fire Emblem post it there. I'll start. Ryu and Kirby Source: http://www.deviantart.com/art/Ryu-539504773 Ryu vs Little Mac. Very Street fighter esque Source: http://www.deviantart.com/art/Ryu-Vs-Little-mac-542520461 Little Mac and WFT get fit for Smash. Source: http://www.deviantart.com/art/GET-FIT-for-SMASH-4-434973035 Item madness! Source: http://www.zerochan.net/788635 Captain Falcon trying to get that selfie Source: http://videogamedj.tumblr.com/post/100840882633/amazing-smash-bros-fan-art Robin putting people to sleep with his books. Source: https://www.paigeeworld.com/feed/tag/shulk Epic Link vs Samus Source: http://www.game-art-hq.com/53874/epic-battles-are-epic-link-vs-samus/

EVO 2015 YO GUYS. Some of you may remember the biggest Smash tournament ever, Apex 2015, and the thread I made for it. Well, it has officially been replaced, as EVO 2015 has something stupid like ~1800 entrants for each of Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and Super Smash Bros. Melee. In this thread I will be covering like, three things: A) Some background. B) Stream schedules. C) Storylines going into the tournament. [spoiler=Background Info]EVO is a longrunning fighting game tournament (like, 15 years old at this point or something), and this year has nine (9) games in its lineup:Guilty Gear Xrd Killer Instinct Mortal Kombat X Persona 4 Arena the Ultimax Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Super Smash Bros. Melee Tekken 7 Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3, and Ultra Street Fighter IV This year marks the first time that Smash will have two different games at EVO; Melee is returning for its third consecutive year, and Smash 4 is making its first appearance (obviously). This is also the second year that this tournament has the official support of Nintendo. Both games have pools and quarterfinals on Friday. Smash 4 has semifinals and Grand Finals on Saturday, Melee has semifinals on Saturday and Grand Finals on Sunday, with the other four top billed games. EDIT: SSB4 Crew Battle happening Thursday, 9 p.m. PST. Stream Link. Melee Salty Suite happening Saturday, 9 p.m. PST - Bizzarro Flame vs. Kage at 10. Stream Link (probably?). [spoiler=Stream Schedule, sorted by game + links to streams] http://www.twitch.tv/srkevo1 http://www.twitch.tv/srkevo2 http://www.twitch.tv/srkevo3 http://www.twitch.tv/srkevo4 http://www.twitch.tv/srkevo5 http://www.twitch.tv/srkevo6 http://www.twitch.tv/srkevo7 http://www.twitch.tv/capcomfighters [spoiler=SSB4 Storylines]At Apex 2015, Gonzalo "ZeRo" Barrios (, ) established himself as the undisputed best at Super Smash Bros. for Wii U, winning the tournament with his Diddy Kong, and only dropping a single game across the entire 1000+ player bracket. Since then, he has won every tournament he's entered, and has only dropped one set, to a Luigi player, after the Diddy nerfs. These days, he's largely switched to Sheik, and we've yet to see his Sheik lose a set. His dominance is such that at CEO (and I believe EVO as well) there's a $500 bounty to eliminate him from the tournament. Dabuz (, ) took second place at Apex; among other accomplishments, he eliminated Mew2King's Diddy with his Olimar, cementing in the minds of many that Olimar was a contender to be taken seriously, but nevertheless ZeRo beat his Olimar fairly effortlessly. Since then he's been considered #2 at points, but recently has been overshadowed by his regional rival, Nairo, and lost out at CEO to ESAM before once again being eliminated by Nairo. From the same region as Dabuz, Nairo (, , ), lost out at Apex, but since then has dedicated serious time and effort to improving, especially his Zero Suit Samus. His Robin and Pit / Dark Pit, all seldom seen in tourneys, are also quite fearsome, despite their relatively low positions on tier lists. Recently, he's been convincingly beating almost everyone but ZeRo, including taking second place at CEO a couple weeks ago, and in my mind he's likely the "best of the rest." ESAM (, ) has been largely absent from most tournaments, but his Pikachu is a force to be reckoned with, especially in a customs environment. While he lost out at CEO to ZeRo and then Larry Lurr, he was one of the few people to take a game off of ZeRo. With customs on, he's likely to do better, owing to his demonstrated ability to bait out aerials/airdodges he can punish hard with Heavy Skull Bash. He also has a pocket Samus that was able to take a game from Larry Lurr's Fox, before being counterpicked and eliminated by Luigi. idk I'm getting kinda tired of writing these, especially when I know there are other, better write-ups I can link you to. Other players to watch out for: - Larry Lurr (, ) is largely ignored, but his Fox is imo incredible and probably the best there is...and he has a solid Luigi as well. - Mr. R () is a widely considered to be one of the best Sheiks in the world, but we don't get to see much of him, as he lives in the Netherlands. He recently got taken out early by MVD and Larry Lurr at CEO, so it seems like he might not be as much of a threat as people think of him as. - If FOW () is gonna be at EVO, his Ness is quite strong, although he was taken out quite solidly by ZeRo at DVDA #5 Grand Finals. - Unfortunately, Mew2King is missing EVO this year, due to health struggles and hand pains. - AND OF COURSE, OUR VERY OWN PKL () will be at EVO this year... I think. If other people have ideas for smashers who should be on this list, gimme a blurb and I'll put them up. [spoiler=Melee Storylines]EDIT: TeamLiquid has a better write-up; go read it. The two-time reigning champion of Melee at EVO, Cloud 9 | Mang0 (, ), bombed yet another Apex this year. However, historically this has been followed by him taking things more seriously and kicking ass at EVO in the following summer. His other accomplishments are so numerous I don't feel inclined to list them all. This year, however, he's been having major troubles since Armada broke out his incredible Fox, which has forced Mang0 vs. Armada sets into counterpick wars, as Mang0 hates both the Fox ditto and Falco/Peach matchup. Recently, it seems as though Mang0 decided to suck it up and learn the Fox ditto, but it remains to be seen if he'll be able to master it enough before EVO. Mang0 has also had some major difficulties against the up-and-coming challenger Leffen. Armada (, ), a Swedish player known for his incredible Peach, retired several years back after a period of dominance. Since his return to the scene, he's probably been winning the most, however, he's yet to win a major tournament. He recently picked up Fox, after deciding that the overall skill level had improved to a point where solo-maining Peach simply was no longer viable, and this kicked off an incredibly strong showing this year, including finishing second at Apex, losing to PPMD after eliminating both Mang0 and Leffen. Hungrybox (), the best Jigglypuff in the world, recently announced his impending retirement, as he is starting at a new job shortly. He'll be looking to take one last tournament before he bows out, but given his trouble against other top players such as Mang0, Armada, and Leffen, it's doubtful that he'll be able to win this last super-major. Mew2King (, ), the oldest of the five "Melee Gods," will be missing EVO 2015 due to hand problems, so that leaves only PPMD (, ). The most reclusive of the gods, PPMD seldom attends tournaments due to his own struggles with depression and other things, but nevertheless has managed to win Apex two years running, despite attending extremely few tournaments. He's kind of a wildcard at this EVO, but it would be foolish to count him out after he clutched out his second Apex in a row earlier this year. Lastly, the up-and-coming challenger Leffen () has been dominating the tournaments he's attended recently this summer, convincingly beating out the likes of Armada and Mang0 without dropping a set at CEO, FC Return, and What the Fox?, and so is going into EVO as the leading favorite to take the tournament. Another Swede, Leffen only won his first major tournament in December? of 2014, but went on to take 3rd place at Apex, losing to PPMD in Winner's Finals and being eliminated by Armada immediately afterwards, however he solidly beat Mew2King and Mango, and did put up great fights vs Armada and PPMD. In the tournaments after Apex, however, he had some major difficulties as Armada's Fox seemed to be unstoppable, and it looked as though he might have been doomed to fade back into Armada's shadow again. Clearly, that is not the case; Leffen's Fox is stronger than ever, and he looks set to win his first super-national tournament. Other players to watch out for: - aMSa () did extraordinarily well at Apex, as his Yoshi performed at levels we had not known were possible, making top 8 before narrowly losing to Mang0 in game 5 of their set. While he only recently won his first tournament in Japan, he's historically performed quite well at US tourneys. - The NorCal Three: PewPewU (), Shroomed (), and SFAT (), are all top-15? players matched very closely, and hold a special spot in my heart due to being from the best region on Earth, objectively speaking. PewPewU and Shroomed especially did quite well at Apex 2015, with Shroomed beating out M2K in Sheik dittos to make it top top-8. Again, if anyone has suggestions/corrections, lemme know and I'll add them. Results will be added to either this post or the next post as they happen. [spoiler=Results][spoiler=Melee]1. Alliance|Armada (Fox, Peach) 2. Liquid|Hungrybox (Jigglypuff) 3. EG|PPMD (Marth, Falco) 4. PG|Plup (Sheik, Samus) (!) 5. TSM|Leffen (Fox) 5. C9|Mango (Fox, Falco) 7. Tempo|Axe (Pikachu) 7. MH|ChuDat (Ice Climbers) somewhere in top 16 (!): KEN bracket [spoiler=Smash 4]ZeRo won the entire thing without dropping a single game holy shit is this man even human 1. ZeRo (Sheik, Diddy Kong) 2. LLL|Mr. R (Sheik) 3. Nairo (Zero Suit Samus) 4. ASA|Abadango (Wario, Pac-Man, Rosalina & Luma) 5. Boreal|Ally (Mario, Marth) 5. IQHQ|DaBuz (Rosalina & Luma, Olimar) 7. PG|Esam (Pikachu) 7. GW|FOW (Ness) can't actually find a bracket at this moment wtf EDIT: I suck at updating thread titles

Could apply to any game in the series, but I'm mainly concerned with Smash 4 right now. Let's say you go to For Glory, you start up a match in 1v1. For the most part, you don't care who your opponent is, but you pray to Palutena God that it's not a select few. For me, it's Zero Suit Samus, Captain Falcon, Sonic, and Link. ZSS because it seems she's too fast for me to properly react to. The stunning is annoying and almost every person I've seen that plays her spams. CF because, again, he's much too fast for me and is still very strong. His Smash attacks are really strong for some reason and it seems like he can move right out of it very quickly. Everyone and their mother has been able to land his spike and he has way too many killing moves. Raptor boost is dumb in that it covers a lot of the stage, always hits me even when I dodge, and is a killing move iirc. Sonic people are again too fast. I can never land a hit on them and use the grabs a lot. Links just spam projectiles. I've seen few that use him legitimately. It's also worth noting that I abhor grabs. A lot. They just slow down the fight considerably I think. Most people that use them, will use them a lot. It's frustrating. So how about you? And I don't just mean For Glory. Any mode.

I don't know if this is better in the SSB forum or the FE13 forum, and I don't even know if this has been done before, but whatever. So, my thought is, we could collaborate and make a WiFi team based on the (humanoid) cast of SSB4 using Robins, with classes, weapons, skills, and stats that reflect on their usage in the game, but making sure they're still able to put up a good fight. I'm doing a really bad job of explaining, so I'll give an example. Shulk Class: Swordmaster Asset/Flaw: +Skl/-HP (Based on his stats in Xenoblade, if you are wondering about the Flaw.) Skills: -Rally Spectrum (Monado Arts, except for his fellow Robins instead of for him) -Luna (Back Slash I guess; mostly for Generals) -Wrath (Buster Mode, you deal more damage in exchange for taking more damage) -Vantage (Just because we want to win) -Counter (Vision) I still need a weapon that looks like the Monado, but I guess a Brave Sword kinda works? Get it? Cool! Another I've come up with is: Link Class: Bow Knight, 'cause Ocarina of Time. Asset/Flaw: +Str/-Mag Skills: -Swordfaerie -Bowfaerie -Aegis (His Hylian Shield) -Astra (His Hero's Spin or whatever you call it) -Agressor (Because he's powerful offensively, but is succeptible to attacks due to his big lag after using a Combo or a Special) Don't know what would really look like the Master Sword, but he'll probably wind up using a Brave Sword anyhow. A Brave Bow should suffice outside of Swords. Also, the Mario Bros. could be Dread Fighters (Hammers and Fire Tomes), and Luigi would have +Spd -Skl and Mario would have something like +Skl -Spd or something to mirror their SSB counterparts. If this seems interesting to you, feel free to contribute to the brainstorming!

Duck Hunt predating Game watch? 8-player smash intended for Melee? The orgin of the phrase No Johns? All here in Did you know gamings new episode centered around Smash 4. Some pretty interesting stuff here actually just thought I'd share. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ynmwFK3bfU&spfreload=10

APEX 2015 The latest tournament in the Apex Series JUST ENDED! [spoiler=congratulations to]first of all: Can we all give props to Zero, for being so good his sets only last 3 games? (stolen from /r/smashbros) Melee Singles: 1) PPMD 2) Armada 3) Leffen 4) Mango 5-6) aMSa, Hungrybox 7-8) KirbyKaze, Shroomed Melee Doubles: 1) Mew2King and Hungrybox 2) Armada and Android 3) Ice and Leffen 4) Chillindude and ChuDat SSB4 Singles: 1) ZeRo 2) Dabuz 3) Mr. R 4) 6WX 5-6) Mew2King, Nietono 7-8) Abadango, MVD SSB4 Doubles: 1) Mew2King, ZeRo 2) MjG and FOW 3) Mr. R and Cyve 4) Nietono and Choco MOVED VENUES, EVERYTHING WAS DELAYED. don't really have the time to be typing up an explanation, but /r/smashbros has a good one tl;dr stuff starts on saturday new schedules and stuff: http://smashboards.com/threads/apex-2015-new-venue-official-new-schedule.389066/ [spoiler=Brackets]http://apex2015melee.challonge.com/singles http://apex2015melee.challonge.com/doubles http://apex2015smashwiiu.challonge.com/singles http://apex2015brawl.challonge.com/singles http://apex2015smash64.challonge.com/ (pools aren't done, so there's no top bracket) other FGC: http://apex2015fgc.challonge.com/ [spoiler=Sunday schedule, as far as I can tell]NOTE: As far as I can tell VG BootCamp is streaming top-8 of both Melee and SSB4. Melee stream: http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp SSB4 stream: http://www.twitch.tv/teamsp00ky Not sure who is streaming the other games, it looks messy. Melee top-48 starts somewhere between 12 p.m. and 1:30 p.m., and goes until 4:30 p.m. Melee top-8 starts at 7:30 p.m, and goes until maybe 11 p.m. Melee Doubles top-16 starts at 9 a.m., and goes until 12 p.m. SSB4 top-32 starts at 9 a.m., and goes until 12 p.m. SSB4 top-8 starts at 4:30 p.m., and goes until 7:30 p.m. Brawl top-16 starts sometime between 10:30 a.m. and 12 p.m., and goes until sometime after 1:30 p.m. SSB64 pools start at 9 a.m., and go until 12 p.m., and resume shortly after. SSB64 top-8 starts immediately after pools conclude (sometime between 1:30 p.m. and 3 p.m.), and goes until 4:30 p.m. Other FGC streamed by http://www.twitch.tv/bifuteki Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 top-8 starts sometime between 10:30 a.m. and 12 p.m., and goes until 1:30 p.m. Ultra Street Fighter 4 top-8 starts at 1:30 p.m. and 12 p.m., and goes until sometime between 3 p.m. and 4:30 p.m. Guilty Gear Xrd top-8 starts at 9 a.m., and goes until sometime between 10:30 a.m. and 12 p.m. old stuff: [spoiler=Saturday schedule, as far as I can tell]SSB4 and Melee Pools start at 9 a.m. EST today (Saturday) and go until 6 p.m., then resume at 7:30 p.m. and go until 9 p.m. Melee stream: http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp SSB4 stream: http://www.twitch.tv/teamsp00ky SSB4 doubles start at 9 a.m. EST and go until 3 p.m., then resume at 9 p.m. SSB4 doubles stream: http://www.twitch.tv/teamsp00ky Melee doubles start at 1:30 p.m. EST and go until 7:30 p.m. The top-32 to finals then resumes at 9 p.m. Melee doubles stream: http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp Salty Suite begins at 9 p.m., and is streamed by VGBootCamp Other FGC streamed by http://www.twitch.tv/bifuteki Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 starts at 9 a.m., top-32 to top-8 is 12 p.m. to 1:30 p.m. Ultra Street Fighter 4 starts at 10:30 a.m., top-16 to top-8 is from 6 p.m. to 7:30 p.m. Guilty Gear Xrd starts at 9 a.m., top-32 to top-8 is 1:30 p.m. to 3 p.m. Killer Instinct starts at 9 a.m., top-16 to finals is 3 p.m. to 4:30 p.m. Pokemon ORAS starts at 10:30 a.m., top-32 to finals from 4:30 p.m. to 7:30 p.m., and is streamed by http://www.twitch.tv/teamsp00ky [spoiler=Schedule (warning: deprecated. also large.)] [spoiler=Background/Info/etc.]For those of you not in The Know, Apex is a tournament series notable mostly for allegations that its (now departed) founder sexually harasses women, and for conspiring to kill the SSBB mod Project M. As a sidenote, Apex 2015 also happens to be the largest Super Smash Bros. Melee tournament literally ever, with over 1000 entrants. It also has the less-impressive title of largest Super Smash Bros. for Wii U tournament of all time (800+ entrants). (It also happens to be one of the only major SSB4U tournaments so far, so.) This year it has all official Smash Bros. games, as well as several other fighting games. And also Pokemon because why not? It ALSO is officially partnering with The Big N itself for the first time, which is sort of cool I guess. All (or close enough) the top players from the various games are gonna be there, etc., there may even be drama involved (coughcoughleffencough), it sounds like it's gonna be fun. As Nintendo is involved this year, and cares about the casual viewer, Apex 2015's format will be 4-player free-for-alls with all items on and set to "Very High." Additionally there will be no banned st- sorry what's that? It's not? What IS new, and pandering to the "casual" or otherwise not in The Know viewers, is that there will be a special Smash Newcomers stream geared towards, obviously, newcomers. Anyways, it starts on Friday, with the interesting stuff on Saturday and Sunday. The stream schedule is in the first spoiler. I guess this is a spectator/discussion thread? idk if there's actually interest here or if I just wasted like 20 minutes on this post

I dont know if this happens to others (it probably does), but whenever i play online, regardless of the type, with or without friends, i always experience like a full second of input lag (to clarify; its when i press a button, and its effect happens a while after pressed). This happens all the time, and is seriously annoying and putting me off playing multi altogether on Smash. Does anyone know if there is a way to fix this? Would appreciate it lots...

I found another stage-related glitch in SSB4 for the 3DS. 1. Go to the Gerudo Valley stage in a mode where you can pause and move the camera (pretty much anywhere but Training) 2. Pause. 3. If you see the large hole at the top-left corner of the stage, then zoom in, rotate, and pan the camera so you can see inside of it to the left. You should be able to see a black hole. This seems to be easier on the Final Destination version of the stage. Also, I checked, and this does work on version 1.0.4.

So um. I dunno about you guys, but weirdly, the customization is one of the things I've been spending the most time on. At first it was mainly for the moves (since I've been playing the crap out of Smash Run to get all the custom moves), but as a side effect I've wound up spending a lot of time creating silly little loadouts for all the characters (IE alts like Daisy, Wolf, all the Koopalings, and Robin's alts are based on classes from Fire Emblem lol) or even optimizing them. So uh, I guess I thought I'd make a thread for comparing various custom strategies and whatnot. Customized characters are also great for feats like clearing Classic on 9.0, so hopefully it'll prove useful? Or just fun? IDK. Well, here are some of the main ones that I've come up with that any character can use: 1) No-Flinch + Hyper Smasher Self-explanatory: charges Smash attacks longer for more power, and gives you super armor while charging for Ganondorf Warlock Punch levels of power and impunity for every Smash attack. Basically good for every character, and on chars with enough vertical reach, it makes the Master Core 9.0 fight a breeze. I've used this one to clear Classic 9.0 with Lucina, Greninja, and Robin. Great for Classic, great for Smash Run, great for multiplayer Smash. 2) Healtank Combine an Auto-Healer equip with the two best Defense-boosting equips you can get; don't fall off the stage and you'll be very difficult to kill. Especially good on campy, stally characters like Dedede, Samus, and Robin. I used this with Charizard (and a healthy dosage of Rock Smash) to win my first Classic 9.0 run. Basically best for Classic, but also decent for Smash Run if you can compensate for the drastically lowered mobility. You can add Crouch Healer for the opportunity to basically double your regen speed, but in Smash Run you don't usually want to waste time sitting still. Crouch Healer could be good for Classic, though. 3) Ragetank This one is basically JUST for Smash Run if you decide you want to live dangerously, because it relies on Smash Run powers to be effective. What you want to do is use any All-Around Tradeoff eqiupment, then give the character the Super Armor and Rage powers. Desperate __ equipment is very useful for when you get to higher percentages, and if you REALLY want to get risky, you can throw more Tradeoff equipment on there. It might sound bad in theory, but if you can avoid getting launched it hits like a semi, especially with Rage active. At percentages of over 100 with Rage active, I've reduced Smash Run's toughest enemies like Clubberskull, Bulb-orbs, and Mimicuties to rubble in a matter of 3 or 4 solid smash attacks. Again, very risky, but very rewarding as well if you play carefully. I usually run it on the Dark palette variants of characters, but it's pretty much Lucario's jam. - Subclass: Vampire = add any Vampire effect equipment in for a safer version of the build. Or, even just equip a high-level health recovery power combined with 120% worth of damage, then just heal the damage right at the start of the game lol. 4) Smash Ball enthusiast Smash Ball Attractor + any of the other various Smash Ball effects; Double Final Smasher strikes me as another good one, low as the chance might be. I don't really run these, but seems like it might be worthwhile for any custom multiplayer Smash matches where Smash Balls will be active lol. I hear tell that multiple Smash Ball Attractor badges will stack, but haven't been able to confirm it for sure yet. Other stuff I've been using tends to vary on the character-specific equipment, like the Pokemon getting special Home-Run stuff and so on and so forth. Here are some of the other loadouts that work for more specific groups of characters: - Item-based Builds: Basically, you build around one of the item-related equips, like Item Shooter (Ray Gun / Super Scope), Item Hitter (Beam Sword), Item Hurler (Bob-omb / Smart Bomb), and my favorite, Home-Run Bat + Quick Batter. Equip one of the item effects and then an effect that starts you with one of the items affected by it, then load the character up with Smash Run powers that give you even more of the item lol. It's a bit gimmicky, but I've found it to be fairly effective. Note also that Ore Clubs (via powers) and Star Rods (via equipment) count as both hitting AND shooting weapons, depending on whether you're landing the projectile or the item itself, so they work for both variants. - Air-Attacker builds: Good for floaty characters or those with lots of jumps, and also good when combined with one of the various jump-boosting equips like Hi-Jump, Floaty Jump, Leaper, Glider, etc. depending on the character. IE, I used Floaty Jump + Air Attacker on a Falco alt and Hi-Jump + Air Attacker on Lucina. - Perfect Shield boosts: Not my favorite, but you can combine Perfect Shield Helper + Explosive Perfect shield. Useful from time to time, but I'd rather have something to boost my attacks, personally. - Misc. Useful Equipment effects: Anything with Caloric Immortal/Powerhouse, Moon Launcher, Meteor Master, Shield Reflector, Escape Artist, Improved Braking, Speed Skater (good for compensating for an overly fat character's slowness), or Nimble Dodger make good filler effects to add to other builds or to give to a nonspecific build that's just going for stats. - Misc. Useless Equipment effects: Anything to do with food that isn't named Caloric Immortal/Powerhouse is too situational to be useful given how infrequently food shows up. Effects like Unharmed ___, Sudden Death Gambler, Countdown, First Striker, and Insult-to-Injury are all pretty situational and useless and don't use them because eugh. Welp, that's what I've got. How about you all? Got any character-specific builds to share? I know equipments' Attack/Defense/Speed values are randomly generated (I think), so mileage will obviously vary from person to person, but I think the approximate raise/lower ratios are consistent for each type of equipment, so the strats should be relatively replicable. I might write a Smash Run bestiary next if people think that might be useful.

PIT: There's something weird about this fighter, Lady Palutena. PALUTENA: That's Robin, also known as the Avatar. PIT: I wonder where Chrom is... PALUTENA: Who knows? Probably taking a nap at home. CHROM: I'm no idle layabout. PIT: Whoa! Where did you come from?! CHROM: Robin is a skilled strategist and master of both the Levin Sword and magic. Certainly more useful than a simple swordsman like myself, though each of Robin's tomes, along with the Levin Sword, can only be used a limited number of times before it wears out. VIRIDI: Hey look, it's that Ike wanna-be! CHROM: Excuse me?! I think you're sadly mistaken. I lead the Shepherds, not the Greil Mercenaries. VIRIDI: Shepherds, Greil Mercenaries, same difference. CHROM: The Shepherds may have a lot in common with the Greil Mercenaries, but both my leadership style and my fighting style are very different from Ike's. VIRIDI: Pfft! You and Ike are pretty much carbon copies. This is the reason why you were rejected as a playable character. CHROM: If I was rejected for being a "carbon copy" of Ike, then explain why Dark Pit is able to fight alongside Pit. VIRIDI: Because Dark Pit has a wicked staff that Pit doesn't have. Meanwhile, your Falchion is pitifully short compared to Ike's Ragnell... DARK PIT: Yeah, suck it, Pit! This is why the ladies love me! PIT: Don't drag us into this, Pittoo... CHROM: Too late! I'll turn you into bear meat... Once Robin gets a hold of a Smash Ball. PIT: Why wait for Robin to get one? Don't you have a pair of Smash Balls already? Unless the doctor removed them when you were a little boy... CHROM: If they had been removed when I was a little boy, then how could I have possibly fathered Lucina? VIRIDI: Perhaps "Freddy Bear" is the real father... CHROM: Now I'm angry!

because opening spoiler tags suck if you don't want to get spoiled about the game stop reading this thread now if you're fine, post without worries (big images might want to still go in spoiler tags) [spoiler=just in case since this is the opening post] so how about that Master Core

For me they are Rosalina, Peach, Villager, Marth, and Lucario. I believe that all of them would be fun to play as.

[spoiler=Robin's alternate costumes] [spoiler=Lucina's alternate costumes] Yup, screenshots of Robin's and Lucina's alternate costumes, the latter of which are derived from other characters from Fire Emblem Awakening! Share your thoughts here! For the case of Lucina, from left to right, there's the default costume, Nowi, Cherche, Cordelia, Tiki, Lissa, Tharja and Sumia! EDIT: added in Robin's alts. and hid the screenshots because of spoilers. My thoughts on their costumes: by default, I would use the default costumes. However, in case the mood strikes me, or if it becomes apparent that visibility is becoming an issue and I don't want to put up a thick outline for the characters, I like green, red, blue and yellow costumes on Robin. For the case of Lucina, I actually like all of them since I can see the amount of effort Sakurai and his team put into the costumes (personal bias towards Cordelia, Tiki, Cherche, Lissa and Sumia). By the way, doesn't Lucina in the Nowi alt costume look a lot like Nino from FE7? ... And can't believe that I just saw this now... male Robin in his white costume makes him look a lot like Kirito in his Knights of the Blood Oath uniform from Sword Art Online.

I was very surprised and also very happy, when I read Ike is confirmed for SSB4. It was funny the announcement of Ike's returning came just at the moment, when I started to play part 3 in FE10. To be honest I did not expect to see Ike again in SSB. I predicted for a character from FE13. Maybe it will even happen.

Which music should be added in SSB4?

So in an [it's "http://www.gamevoices.co.uk/profiles/blogs/april-s-gamevoices-interview-is-with-the-extremely-entertaining-m]interview with Gamevoices[/url], VA/"mo-cap guy" Reuben Langdon mentioned that he played Raiden in Super Smash Bros.: Since Raiden didn't appear at all in Brawl, nor has he ever been voiced by Langdon, many people took this as confirmation that Raiden would appear in some capacity in the upcoming Super Smash Bros. for Wii U/3DS.Later, Langdon claimed that he had mixed up Super Smash Bros. with Playstation All-Stars. However, many have noted this explanation is problematic, as Langdon has not previously voiced Raiden at all(not even in PSA), nor did he do mo-cap work for him in that game since Raiden's animations were ripped from MGR:R(and no, he didn't do mo-cap work for that game either). Edit: I should note that Reuben Langdon has done voice work as Ken Masters and Dante (from Devil May Cry), so he's a notable name. Also keep in mind that this isn't the first time something like this has happened: David Hayter revealed Jigglypuff's return fro Brawl, and Krystal's VA (Alesia Glidewell) leaked that Krystal would be appearing in Brawl. Edit 2: Gamevoices has amended the interview: I should also point out that it's possible that Langdon did uncredited mocap work for the cut scenes in PSA.

Might as well pump out the last few franchises, just to round everything out. Veterans: Kirby, Meta Knight, King Dedede Possible Newcomers: Bandana Dee, Prince Fluff, Gooey

Come and Discuss any F-Zero Newcomers here. Veterans: Captain Falcon Potential Newcomers: Samurai Goroh, Black Shadow, Jody Summers, Pico, Dr. Stewart, Blood Falcon, Deathborn, ect

Okay, so I'm sincerely suprised at the lack of Character and Series threads here, ESPECIALLY a FE character discussion thread. This is a general FE character discussion thread. Come and discuss Ike, and Marth, as well as Roy and any other potential newcomers. To start things off, I'll give my little two cents. Who's staying: Marth, Ike I really don't see either of them being cut, despite the pretty much guarantee that SOME characters will not return. Ike doesn't really seem like the type to cut. I have no real reasons to back up him not being cut other than gut instinct, though. I just don't see TOO MANY cuts, and the characters I see being cut aren't him. Who's being included? I don't know. I think the current pool would be between Roy, Chrom, Lucina, and Lyn though. Not only are they the most popular choices, but they all have a bit extra going for them besides that. Roy was in Melee, which, is a big deal in itself. Chrom and Lucina are from the most current FE game, which PROBABLY DOES mean something considering Intellegent Systems seems to suggest characters to Sakurai. And Lyn was an AT, which is something. Who I would LIKE: Eirkia & Ephraim Duo, Tharja, Caeda I like Eirika and Ephraim a lot, they're from the only FE game I've played. Tharja has a lot of charm, and I like her design and moveset potential. Caeda got dem Lances, and she's Marth's lady. I've always had a thing for her, iunno why. Now, let's discuss :)

You know what it is. Stages confirmerd: BattleField (3DS + Wii U) Smash Ring (Wii U) Super Mario Level (3DS) Gerudo Valley (3DS) Spirit Tracks (3DS) Skyloft (Wii U) Wily's Castle (Wii U) Wii Fitness Room (Wii U) Nintendogs (3DS) Arena Ferox (3DS) Unknown Grassy Area (Wii U) Animal Crossing Stage (Wii U) Anyone notice that virtually EVERY stage shown at E3 looks realitively competitive friendly, and we have yet to see a Gimmicky stage? Also if I'm missing a stage LET ME KNOW, I wanna keep this up to date.

Come and discuss any character pertaining to the Kid Icarus Franchise. WARNING, SPOILERS. Veterans: Pit Potential Newcomers: Palutena, Medusa, Dark Pit, Viridi, Magnus, Hades, Eggplant Wizard