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  1. Now that I think about it, it almost appears like she was consumed by the forbidden spell. The obvious conclusion to draw is that she is dead. But I came to think of another alternative, was she perhaps also banished to the void together with Byleth? After all, she appears to be consumed by the very same darkness. If so, this might be a worse fate than death, but she technically wouldn't be dead. Just stuck in a realm of nothingness. What would happen to those that are stuck in that realm? Would they eventually starve to death or are they doomed to roam that realm for all eternity? Solon does call it a fate worse than death.
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agartha http://chinabuddhismencyclopedia.com/en/index.php/The_prophecy_of_Shambhala I know that the Agarthans had a real-world inspiration, I wonder if we can glean any information about their in game incarnation. From their real-world inspiration. This especially caught my attention: Is this how the Agarthans see themselves? Do they see the rest of the world as barbarians, and that then cleansing the world of said barbarians and putting themselves in power once again will lead to a new golden age? Is Rhea the evil king? Or perhaps Edelgard? In this scenario, I guess that Thales would be the 32nd king. It actually makes quite a bit of sense. For this to be the viewpoint of the Agarthans. The Agarthans do seem to have their own religion, probably polytheistic, Thales official title, agastya is also the name of a vedic sage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agastya I am noticing quite a few connections to the religion of Hinduism and Buddhism, do the Agarthans perhaps have a similar belief system? Thales might be considered an spiritual leader by his people as his title might be a reference to him being a sort of sage I'm starting to wonder if the cause of the conflict with Sothis originally was that she demanded that the Agarthans should worship them, and they considered the notion heretical as they had their own belief system and considered her a false deity. If the Agarthans views the rest of Fodlan as uncivilised barbarians and heretics who follow a false God, it is entirely possible they consider themselves the good guys, and that the rest of the world are wicked sinners, against which everything they do is justifiable. Not much is known about the Agarthans in game, but I might be able to put some things together about their general philosophy based on their real-life inspiration. It is also worth noting that a lot of their names seems to be based on the seven sages of Greece.
  3. There is going to be spoilers here, so if you have not played the three routes and don't want to be spoiled, don't read. I think some people are under some misconceptions about things in 3H and are easily swept by early things they see and tend to not realize aspects of the story in 3H that becomes rather clear abundantly. The primary thing is that people that condemn Edelgard as a villain or an antagonist and see her nothing beyond that, they tend to see her as someone that is unjustifiable, or just hate the fact that she started the war in 3H and think that it was totally unnecessary. This is completely false. The war in Fodlan was something that was going to be inevitable no matter what. Even if Edelgard didn't start it, war was going to happen one way or another. In fact, had she not done it, Dimitri and Claude would have definitely caused a war to happen. I'll go and explain each case. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dimitri: Surprised? Really shouldn't be. Dimitri is someone that, had he been left alone, would have caused a war to ignite. Dimitri's entire reason for going to Garreg Mach was always for the sake of revenge for the Tragedy of Duscur. He admits to as such to Byleth during the rain scene after Rodrigue's death during Chapter 17 of Azure Moon: He was not in Garreg Mach to have fun, but to gather evidence to confirm that the Empire was indeed behind the Tragedy of Duscur. Sylvain even makes note of it during Chapter 16 of Crimson Flower, along with Ingrid's dialogue in Chapter 18 of Verdant Wind and Chapter 17 of Silver Snow respectively: Dimitri believed that the Empire was responsible for the Tragedy of Duscur, and therefore, he tried to investigate using any information he could pull up from the Church. This is even proven during the events of Chapter 6 after Flayn had been kidnapped. Dedue and Byleth went around during the night and headed toward the library, only to find Dimitri there. Dimitri already had a suspect, Arundel, his step-uncle and Edelgard's maternal uncle. Now here's the thing. Provided that Dimitri was convinced that Arundel was indeed behind it, does anyone realize the position that Arundel had in the Empire? He was the Regent. So, if Dimitri, the crown prince of Faerghus, were to attack the regent of the Empire, it would have caused a war to happen. Keep in mind that Faerghus is insane in itself with its toxic chivalric culture, as the death of Lambert made them so furious that they went and committed genocide on the people of Duscur. If Dimitri reveals that Arundel was behind the regicide, then the people of Faerghus would be outraged and would go to war with the Empire. And during Crimson Flower, Dimtiri went and allied himself with the Church and joined the war against the Empire. A lot of people are under the misconception that the Empire attacked Faerghus first and Dimitri was just defending himself, but that is overall false. Dimitri joined the war of his own volition, so it was not actually him trying to defend himself. He wanted revenge, once again for the Tragedy of Duscur. Overall, it's clear that even if Edelgard had done nothing, Dimitri would have done something that would have inevitably sparked a war. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Claude: Poor Claude. People really take him for granted and undermine the things he does or says and think he's a jokester most of the time. But that's more at fault with Treehouse being utter shit at localization and thus messed up a lot of the lines and dialogue, removing some of the more dark and ominous things he says in the end. But let's get something straight. Claude might not want to cause a war, but his plans and actions would have inevitably caused one to happen as well. Claude is half-Almyran, which he mentions in his A support with Marianne (albeit in the form of a story) and how he wants to end the prejudice of the two realms so that there is no racism: But the thing about Claude's plan is overall something that isn't actually as peaceful as quite a few people seem to insist on. When Edelgard confronts Claude during Golden Deer in Chapter 5, wanting to learn more about him, Claude makes a little hint about how he intended to try and accomplish his dream: Keep in mind that he says that he needs "power" and others to help him. If you consider how Claude acts in the other routes, Claude basically does a lot to ensure that he holds onto power as much as possible. Crimson Flower: Causes diplomatic infighting to keep the Alliance from breaking apart. SS/AM: Still tries to keep the infighting going, less diplomatic and more violent in cases thanks to Count Gloucester, to still cling to power until he can't. VW: Same as above with SS/AM, but this time, he manages to form a resistance with the Knights and Seiros by putting Byleth in charge. And that's just the political power. But Claude also wants actual fighting power. Hence why Claude basically coveted the power of the Sword of the Creator, mentioned by Edelgard to have the power to wipe out entire armies, and Nader to be able to cleave a mountain in two. It's basically a nuke. And when Byleth gets it in Chapter 4 in Golden Deer, Claude says this: And in both CF and his A support with Byleth, he reveals he wanted to unify Fódlan himself. One thing about Claude is that Claude can and WILL use more lethal and violent force if it comes to it. He might want to avoid killing anyone and preserve lives, but that does not mean that he won't kill someone that stands in his way, as proven by how he intends to deal with Edelgard when it comes to: So if he is trying to use the Sword of the Creator to force the borders to be opened, would anyone actually comply? Actually, would Rhea even comply? The idea that someone was using her mother as a bargaining chip for demands? The woman would outright declare war on Claude herself. And therefore, Claude would have to retaliate, and a war would escalate as a result. We might like to joke and meme about Claude, but the guy is capable of causing wars and being just as ruthless as anyone else if push comes to shove. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Edelgard: Now we are at our primary instigator. Do people think that Edelgard even really had that much of a choice in the war? Let's review Edelgard's case. If you look into the library records in Garreg Mach, we learn some important details when reading up on the register of nobles in the Empire, primarily, the case of House Hresvelg, House Aegir, and House Arundel. When Edelgard was still a child, during 1171, the Insurrection of the Seven began, where nobles had a power struggle against Emperor Ionius IX's power centralization policy. When it first happened, the real Arundel defected from Adrestia and went to Faerghus with Edelgard, likely to protect her. But by 1174, the year she returned all of a sudden, is the year that Arundel likely was killed and replaced by Thales, indicated from what we learn in Blue Lions: And after he was replaced, we learn what happened from Hubert's B support: So when that happened, House Hresvelg lost all political power. Edelgard's father was nothing more than a puppet emperor by that point. And then what happened with Edelgard when she was experimented on. Edelgard herself was nothing more than to be a puppet emperor herself. To be a "peerless emperor" that would help rule Fodlan. The point was, the corrupt nobles wanted to have a war, because as mentioned in Chapter 7, Ferdinand mentions this: So the corrupt nobles clearly wanted a war to reunify Fódlan. And those who slither in the dark wanted nothing more than to kill Rhea, whom they consider to be their most hated enemy. The moment that Edelgard survived her experiments and bore the Crest of Flames, the war was inevitable. Edelgard would be used to have the war happen. She wouldn't really have had a choice in the matter. What power did she have? None. The Insurrection rendered her family powerless. But Edelgard, choosing to take the war to her own hands, started to work behind the scenes. And during Chapter 12, Linhardt analyzes how Edelgard got to power: And the slithers also backed her up with Arundel. And Hubert passing his own personal judgment on his father, it made Hubert be the next head of House Vestra. That allowed Edelgard to have most of the power in the Empire, and allowed her to rise to the position of Emperor, allowing her to strip any other nobles that would go against her. Hence why Duke Aegir, after realizing that Edelgard became the Emperor, didn't try to make any protests and accepted what Edelgard putting him under house arrest. But overall, her power only came from having promised the war and the power supplied to her by the slithers and other nobles that sided with her. If she tried to backtrack, she would just as easily lose her power once again. Say that Edelgard tried to get help from the Church or other nations (even though she had absolutely zero reason to trust any of them realistically), that would still cause a war to happen. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I hope you guys managed to follow through with everything. No matter how you wanna look at it, the war of Fódlan was inevitable. Edelgard was simply the one that started it first before anyone else could.
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