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Hello again! This time I've come to tell you about Rinkah, the ever overlooked unit. While people praise Silas in BR for being tanky and dealing damage (and having mobility) or Oboro for these same reasons, they also say Rinkah is bad because her offence (namely strength) sucks, especially her base of 8 and her base speed of 8. She's level 4 at the beginning of the game. She has Silas' level 6 base def, 15% more def growth, Silas' base spd, 5% more growth, +2 magic with 20% more growth, their personnal skills make their strength 12 (Rinkah) and 14 (Silas) with 8 base and 15% less growth for Rinkah vs 11 for Silas, while Rinkah's personnal gives her 6 base magic just by giving her an HP tonic at the beginning of the chapter and she keeps it for the whole chapter unless you abuse heals on her, meanwhile Silas stays at his base. Silas has elbow room, giving him +3 str/magic, but it's nothing Rinkah can't get, since marrying her with Silas/cavalier talent Corrin gives her elbow room too (and marriage seals are much less used than heart seals), so now with 2000 gold she has +7 str/mag just by using an HP tonic each chapter (150 gold per chapter won't ruin you, be honest with yourselves). Now if you wish to give her another reclass into diviner, she grabs mag +2, now gaining 9 points of magic alongside seal res (3 skill slots until there, 7 str 9 mag without a single str/mag level up), although at the cost of 2000 gold. Silas would have to marry a diviner to get that, but she can befriend Orochi and not force her to go cavalier/oni 3rd class. As a promoted unit, she can take luna from Silas marriage, reducing ennemy's res to bits while Silas still struggles to activate vow of friendship for +3 damage/def (meanwhile she has his VoF def without any skill in her base class in a few level ups with 65% def growth, she might even have 12 def at level 6 while Silas still has 10+3 with VoF). She can also abuse armored blow for 0 damage as an oni/blacksmith on PP, while Silas will still take damage with it as a great knight against promoted ennemies. She can grab lancebreaker, quixotic, rend heaven, tomefaire. So she can get a full passive damage boost build (Fiery blood, elbow room, mag +2, tomefaire) with situational skills (armored blow, rend heaven/luna, quixotic, lancebreaker, pavise, also quixotic makes luna/rend heaven and pavise's activation rate skyrocket with +15% while 30% ennemy hit is totally laughable considering the damage they'll do to her as a paladin/GK/oni savage/blacksmith/basara with her 45% personal def growth carried into any class and her 16 pre-promtion level ups + post promotion). Meanwhile Silas needs to marry to get lancefaire for bolt naginata/any lance to be really strong, he has 10% less personal magic growth in a base class with 0% magic growth for bolt naginata to be of any use, 0 personal magic base and scrolls/parchments are a waste on him, + he can't get seal res alongside mag +2, rend heaven, quixotic and tomefaire, his spd growth is 10% lower than Rinkah's in any class with equal base spd and no base class/promotion access to tomes to train it or keep it in, and tomefaire is a waste on him. ------ So, Silas vs Rinkah: - Silas personal def is 2 points higher than Rinkah, but he is 2 levels higher than her and has 5% less growth (don't forget he has 50%, and here it's 50% vs 55% in the cavalier class or 65% in base class, nearly 2 points per 3 level ups, so 8-10 points at level 20 for her vs 7 for him on average, and less RNG praying for Rinkah's def level ups). His magic ability is way lower than hers, his only worthy 1-2 range weapons can't double attack, let ennemies double him very often (-5 spd, letting him at 3 spd at base LOL at level 6) so he's locked to 1 range forever or to bench-level speed still forever even if RNG blessed. - Rinkah has: real 1-2 range options, with stat boosts on top of it (scrolls/parchments), a world worth of skills to make up for low growth still better than part of the physical cast's magic, 2 activable skills for choice, death blow if you want this subpar skill useless outside PP, she makes any magic weapon she has access to godly with her +9 damage (11 magic at base with those skills), any scroll/parchment like horse spirit godly with her +14 damage to it in lategame and still +9 before that, and she can abuse pavise alongside being bulletproof physically. Now her nodamageness outdamages most of the cast in the magic dpt as well as staying on par with them in physical damage. Don't forget her awesome skill growth that will skyrocket in anything else than oni blob, lancebreaker making her tome wielding even more OP since shuriken/daggers don't reach 1 damage against her for most of the game past the first few levels, well, you have a brick wall, with good to godly offence depending on the ennemies she faces but always a way to deal with any of them (seal res, luna, quixotic for procs), good enough speed in any class (especially out of oni savage, +1 base spd and +5% growth in diviner), and all that without a stat booster, her personal skill being the easiest to trigger in like the whole cast since it requires nearly nothing, while Silas has to put Corrin into danger zone to trigger it. Oh, I forgot one point, since she barely takes any physical damage without PU, most ennemies will just stand there like sandbags as long as she's in the way to other units. With pavise she doesn't really fear magic anymore, and one seraph robe should let her be the real thing for the whole game. Maybe your talismans should be given to her to let her draw every magic unit at her and kill them like they're nothing in PP (if she didn't autokill them in EP that is...). Horse spirit Rinkah with this build is just bonkers. You think it's a lot of investment? She can be a cavalier as soon as level 4 and grab elbow room at level 5 and she will already have +7 hybrid damage, and luna already makes her OP alongside seal res, diviner is just making her the most tanky mage in FE history (or so I think), and her ability to have +9/+14 effective magic makes her laugh at Saizo's magic growth. And for PVP you can always max stats her so she has +12/+14 damage on top of capped mag, and maybe horse spirit boost if you use it. ------ Give me only one non Ryoma/Xander who has physical bulk, high activation rates, high hit rates, high hybrid damage, every weapon access alongside magic, with a build with a -faire, pavise for magic tanking, and all that while being fast enough to double most ennemies and horse spirit boost easing the spd requirement to do so, with 2 of the best hybrid classes speed/def cap-wise (basara 31 base max spd, oni chieftain 30, basara 30 def, oni 36), and all that without needing to PU to get any of these stats, not only staying relevant for the whole game, but being better as the game goes on (stats-wise and skills-wise). All this with lancebreaker and ninja access if she ever wants to go that way in the end (shurikenfaire replaces tomefaire, +2 spd from shurikens, effective weaponry and magic weapon) or for duplicate if you have to chokepoint 2 areas at the same time. That's wright, except a def blessed magic MU, nobody can do that. Hayato has non existent skill, no cavalier access outside MU marriage, and shaky tanking stats/ Orochi has low speed, nonexistent physical bulk/ Silas can't access oni savage and diviner at the same time and has nonexistent magic base/growth/ Xander lacks spd and res and can't go magic any time soon for better offence, since most ennemies have higher def than res it's a pity/ Odin is too shaky and needs a DLC class to fix him ASAP (one without magic) and he can't get any useful faire except maybe in axes but berserker isn't the best class to go through if you go hybrid build and he can't get a -faire alongside elbow room (+ no free damage personal skill) unless you make him a swordsmaster but his magic stat will suffer, and his bulk will be awful, and as a dark knight his speed will be unusable past midgame. All these require PU bonuses to even be good/great (no PU Xander is just a powerful tank, he won't double trash ever and his res is far from anything good, alongside no rightful king-like skill for him to abuse pavise, and he can't get quixotic without loosing sword efficiency so his personal weapon goes to waste because lancefaire or tomefaire doesn't help him a lot in his good classes). ------ That's all for Rinkah's niche. As you see it's quite the skillset, and only 1 way to get it (marriage + friendship), but it singlehandedly recks the competition as it blows away one stat attackers by being good physically AND magically, offensively AND defensively, and letting many final classes accessible for whatever you prefer (if you're fine with 32 max def, Rinkah can stay basara for +1 spd over oni chieftain, but if you prefer 38 max def over 1 spd and 5 skl, then she can go back to oni chieftain, don't forget pavise activation rate depends on skill and basara gives her 10% growth whereas oni gives 0). BTW, I wonder why IS made Rinkah's skill cap -2 while she has 50% PERSONAL skill growth and 4 personal base skill, one of the best in all routes...especially for a hard hitting base class unit. I'd trade 2 def cap for 2 skill cap in oni any time, dat base and dat max...
Oh boy! Optimizing every unit can make me crazy sometimes. Anyways, I'm onto Rinkah, and I'm wondering if it's even possible to make her good. I heard that she works well as a bench warmer, but can't do that here. Anyways, what would be a good S-Support partner for her (Kaze is taken), good skills, and best final class for Rinkah.
Rinkah. A savage from the Fire Tribe; raised as the chieftains daughter. Although she has a strong-minded and courageous personality, she gets mad easily and lacks calmness. She adheres to her tribes law of solitude. Has the highest body temperature. [spoiler=Marriage/Buddy Seals] Spoiler (Marriage/Buddy Seals) A Marriage/Buddy seal allows a unit to reclass into one of the select class trees of his spouse (S support) or buddy (A+ support). A unit may only achieve an S support with units of the opposite gender (exc. Kamui, Syalla, Zero), and may only achieve an A+ support with units of the same gender. (The credit for the following information goes to Gayserbeam, as I copied the wording of his explanation. Check out the Class Changing and Inheritance Thread for more information. If the users Primary Class is different than their Spouses/Buddy's Primary Class, then the Marriage/Buddy Seal will reclass them to the Spouses/Buddy's Primary Class, even if the user has that class as a Secondary Class already. If the users Primary Class is the same as their Spouses/Buddy's Primary Class, then the Marriage/Buddy Seal will reclass them to the Spouses/Buddy's Secondary Class. If the user is married or buddied with a unit who has an unlearnable class, then the Marriage/Buddy Seal will reclass them to the Spouses/Buddys Secondary Class.An unlearnable class is a class that may be unique to a character or their children. The following units have unlearnable classes: Nishiki (Fox Spirit), Flannel (Garou), Azura (Singer), Mozume (Villager). If the user is married or buddied with a unit who has an unlearnable class, and their Primary Class is the same as their Spouses/Buddys Secondary Class, then the Marriage/Buddy Seal will reclass them to the Spouses/Buddys Substitute Class. A Substitute Class is simply a select class a character with an unlearnable class passes down under certain circumstances. The following units have Substitute Classes: Nishiki (Herb Merchant), Flannel (Outlaw), Azura (Rod Knight), Mozume (Herb Merchant). If you're still confused, let me use Rinkah as an example to try and clarify matters! Rinkah/Silas: Rinkah's Primary Class is Oni Savage, and Silas's is Cavalier. Therefore, Rinkah would Marriage Seal into Cavalier.Rinkah/Kaze: Rinkah's Primary Class is Oni Savage, and Kaze's is Ninja. Therefore, Rinkah would Buddy Seal into Ninja. As Rinkah's Secondary Class is Ninja, he would not receive a new class tree from Kaze. Rinkah has no fellow Oni Savage to be supported Rinkah/Nishiki: As Nishiki's Primary Class is Fox Spirit, an unlearnable class, Rinkah would Marriage Seal into his Secondary Class-- Pegasus Warrior. Rinkah/Oni Savage!Avatar: Avatar's Primary Class is Nohr Prince, an unlearnable class. Rinkah's Primary Class is Oni Savage, and Avatar's Secondary Class is Oni Savage. Therefore, Rinkah would Marriage Seal into his Substitute Class-- Fighter. [spoiler=Possible Classes] Classes in red are ones Rinkah can only achieve in either the Birthright or the Revelation campaign. Classes in blue are ones Rinkah can only achieve in the Revelation campaign. Base Classes (8H, 4N, 12T) Bowman Cavalier Fighter Knight Lance Fighter Ninja Oni Savage Pegasus Warrior Priestess Rod Knight Samurai Spellcaster Promoted Classes (13H, 7N, 20T) Basara Berserker Blacksmith Brave Hero Exorcist Falcon Warrior General Golden-Kite Warrior Great Knight Holy Bowman Holy Lancer Jonin Maid Paladin Puppeteer Shura Strategist Trueblade Weapon Master Wyvern Lord [spoiler=Expansion of Possible Classes] Primary Base Class: Oni Savage Primary Promoted Classes: Blacksmith, Shura Secondary Base Class: Ninja Secondary Promoted Classes: Jonin, Puppeteer Marriage Seal Classes: These are organized alphabetically based on the localized names of the spouses. we listed the Birthright characters first, the Conquest characters second, and the shared characters last. Asama: Priestess -> Exorcist, War Priestess Hinata: Samurai -> Trueblade, Weapon Master Nishiki: Spellcaster -> Basara, Exorcist Ryoma: Samurai -> Trueblade, Weapon Master Saizou: n/a Subaki: Pegasus Warrior -> Falcon Warrior, Golden-Kite Warrior Takumi: Bowman -> Golden-Kite Warrior, Holy Bowman Tsukuyomi: Spellcaster -> Basara, Exorcist Benoit: Knight -> General, Great Knight Flannel: Fighter -> Berserker, Brave Hero Jakob: Rod Knight -> Butler, Strategist Kaze: n/a Silas: Cavalier -> Great Knight, Paladin Buddy Seal Classes: These are organized alphabetically based on the localized names of the buddies. we listed the Birthright characters first, the Conquest characters second, and the shared characters last. Kagerou: n/a Oboro: Lance Fighter -> Basara, Holy Lancer Orochi: Spellcaster -> Basara, Exorcist Charlotte: Fighter -> Berserker, Brave Hero [spoiler=Notice] In the previous optional poll, Jakob and Nishiki tied at 2nd (technically 2.5). Therefore, Jakob Nishiki would get 3 votes each. Arthur received no votes. So he will be out for 2 polls (returns poll 21). Ryoma, Flannel and Hana has been added back to the poll. if it is demonstrated again is that the forum is not interested in them: Ryoma and Flannel will be out for 4 polls (poll 24); Jakob will be out for 8 polls (poll 28). Note: If you plan to go through multiple classes, vote for the Final/Endgame class (except for preference, vote for whatcha like). [spoiler=Possible Skills] Personal Skill: Flame Blood: When users HP is not full, damage +4 Skills are organized alphabetically based on the classes. Within the classes, skills are listed in the order of achievement (e.g. a GK earns Luna at Lvl. 5 and Diamond Strike at Lvl. 15, so Luna is listed before Diamond Strike). Base class skills are listed before promoted class skills. Descriptions of skills Sakura can acquire through her primary and secondary class trees are listed below. Descriptions of all the skills are located on the skills pages. Base Classes Skills Bowman: Skill +2, Prescient Victory Cavalier: Open Assault, Rescue Fighter: HP +5, Roundhouse Knight: Defense +2, Confined Defense Lance Fighter: Defence Seal, Substitute Ninja: Locktouch, Snake Venom Oni Savage: Resistance Seal, Shove Pegasus Warrior: Swallow Strike, Eastern Heart Priestess: Miracle, Rally Luck Rod Knight: Resistance +2, Distinguished Son Samurai: Flowing Strike Vantage Spellcaster: Magic +2, Fortune Wyvern Rider: Strength +2, Cut Through Promoted Classes Skills Basara: Breaking Sky, Flamboyant Berserker: Rally Strength, Axefaire Blacksmith: Smithy Skill, Lancebreaker Brave Hero: Sol, Axebreaker Exorcist: Rally Magic, Tomefaire Falcon Warrior: Rally Speed, Mirror Strike General: Defensive Formation, Pavise Golden-Kite Warrior: Soar, Sun God Great Knight: Luna, Diamond Strike Holy Bowman: Raven Strike, Bowfaire Holy Lancer: Speed Sealm, Lancefaire Jonin: Lethality, Kunaifaire Maid: Servant's Joy, Tomebreaker Paladin: Defender, Aegis Puppeteer: Puppet Break, Copycat Puppet Shura: Ogre Strike, Counter Strategist: Rally Resistance, Battle Command Trueblade: Astra, Swordfaire Weapon Master: Strength Seal, Line of Death Resistance Seal: After battle, enemys Resistance -6 Shove: Select the Shove command to push an adjacent ally 1 tile Smithy Skill: When user triggers the battle, Luck% chance of receiving a Katana, Naginata, Club, Yumi or Shuriken if the user defeats the enemy Lancebreaker: Hit rate and Avoid +50 when the enemy is equipped with a Lance Ogre Strike: When user triggers the battle, Critical rate +20 Counter: When an adjacent enemy triggers the battle and inflicts damage, the enemy receives the same damage Locktouch: User can open doors and chests without requiring keys Snake Venom: When user triggers the battle, the enemys HP is reduced by 20% after the battle Lethality: Skill x 0.25% chance of instantly defeating the enemy when dealing 1 or more damage Kunaifaire: When user is equipped with a Kunai, damage +5 during battle Puppet Break: Attacks are effective against Puppeteers, Puppets and Golems Copycat Puppet: Select the Copycat command once per map to create a puppet with the same appearance, stats, inventory and HP as the user (Anything that happens to the puppet happens to the user and vice versa even death) For more info about stats and growths, please go to http://serenesforest.net/fire-emblem-fates/ [spoiler=Summary] Optimal 1. Blacksmith [37.50%] 2. Berserker [21.88%] 3. Shura [18.75%] Practical (Birthright) 1. Shura [37.50%] 2. Blacksmith [25.00%] 3. Basara [9.38%] Preference 1. Shura [53.12%] 2. Blacksmith [18.75%] 3.5 Basara [12.50%] 3.5 Berserker [12.50%] Optional Poll 1. Setsuna (5 votes)[15.62%] 3.5. Effie (4 votes)[12.50%] 3.5. Belka (4 votes)[12.50%] 3.5. Nishiki (1+3 votes)[3.12%] 3.5. Jakob (1+3 votes)[3.12%] Next poll, we will be voting for Setsuna
What hair colors do the mothers pass down to their children? I'm specifically looking for info on Pieri and Rinkah (is that her headress or hair? what?), but confirmations on all of them (especially the 2-tone ones like Kagerou and Hinoka) would be nice.