Liz Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Which affinities give out the best/ most useful bonuses? Which give the worst/most useless bonuses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Earth or Water for best, Heaven for worst (even though it's my favourite affinity and is really useful for Pelleas). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martelé Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I think Earth and Thunder are pretty good affinities. And dark is pretty good, too. The worst are probably Heaven and Light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saaji Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 More or less what everyone has got it down, Earth is great for avoid earth x earth makes for a nigh untouchable duo, while I believe water gives a very well round bonus to attack and defense i believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Earth is the best the worst well that's hard to decide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 EarthXEarth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xanatha Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I'm not sure. I know I like dark and... heaven, I think. Otherwise, no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Earth is easily the best, since the minimum +23 avoid it grants is already awesome. As for the rest, it more or less depends on the character and what they would like, but I would say Earth > Dark > Water > Thunder > Fire > Wind > Light > Heaven. But Earth and Heaven are definitely the best and worst respectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Spoon Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 EarthxEarth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aless Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Earth is complete w1n, and then anything that gives avoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Poleax Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Earth is easily the best, since the minimum +23 avoid it grants is already awesome. As for the rest, it more or less depends on the character and what they would like, but I would say Earth > Dark > Water > Thunder > Fire > Wind > Light > Heaven. But Earth and Heaven are definitely the best and worst respectively. I'd say the same thing except I'd switch thunder and fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 It's difficult to rank affinities, since certain units need certain stats and it's difficult to say what's overall more useful. For example, while a lot of units like Earth, there are still a few units that don't want an Earth support because it's totally unnecessary and they want more Attack or Thunder would give a larger durability boost because of the Defense boost (Volug, Ulki). Similarly, there are a large number of units that find +Atk boosts a waste because they don't double and +2 Attack wouldn't make them OHKO or 2HKO or whatever a significant amount of time (See: Haar, Micaiah, Nolan, Aran, Ike, Titania, Royals). And then there's Sword users, who can't forge a 1-2 range weapon, and the few they do have prior to Alondite have terrible Hit, so they could really use a Heaven support so that they didn't sit there missing with 50-60 displayed with the Tempest Blade. However, Avoid and Hit from affinities other than Earth/Heaven are generally less useful. +2 Defense > +8 Avoid in this game since enemy hit rates are so high and biorhythm can ruin a >50 to <50 Avoid jump from +8 Avoid. Similarly with Hit, since a piddling +8 Hit isn't very useful most of the time, and when it is it doesn't make enough of a difference since we still have a high miss rate. On the other hand, Earth solves Avoid problems unless you're in 3-13/4-E-3/4/5, and Heaven solves most hit problems unless you've got a very low Hit weapon and a poor Bio matchup (Worst vs. Best or similar). However, hit problems are much rarer and more difficult to fix than Avoid problems (forge a more accurate weapon!), which is why Heaven isn't as good. This is why most people consider Water to be the second best, since the other 5 affinities only really give 1 "useful" boost in most cases. I, however, would rank it something like this. Top (AKA lolEarth) Earth Mid Water/Thunder/Dark/Light Bottom Heaven/Fire/Wind More units want more durability than there are units that want more offense, and giving more Defense/Avoid when you already have a good amount of Defense exponentially increases your durability, whereas more Attack/Hit have diminishing returns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charmander6000 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 In general... Earth > Dark > Water >Thunder > Fire > Light > Heaven > Wind Too bad there aren't many dark affinity users, most people only use MicaiahXSothe and Naesala and Giffca show up really late leaving only Calill and Soren. Thunder and Fire are debatable though defense/avoid work better together than attack/hit plus those two stats can be boosted with forges. Heaven is better than wind because it actually becomes useful during endgame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliban of Sycorax Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Anything involving Earth is the best support combo. Not counting Earth/Earth, Earth/Dark is the best combo (+30 AVO and +2 ATK). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisper Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 EarthXEarth is completely overkill. EarthXWater is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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