NinjaMonkey Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 (edited) Please vote for what YOU think is the best AND worst in the series for this round. Failure to vote for both will result in your vote not being counted. The round will last for about a week or so, after which I will tally the votes, and will add the top three to a list in the opening post of the next topic. It would be nice if you nominate ideas for when I'm out of them. I'll keep track of the nominations. Please nominate only once a round. You may nominate for idea that have already been nominated. Please remember to nominate. Also, if your vote is not for one person/thing/etc, it will be thrown out. Your vote will also be thrown out if the FE game it is from is not stated if it is needed. This is mainly to avoid confusion. If you excessively complain about the results of previous rounds, you will not be allowed to vote in these topics for a period of time that will be determined later. A list will be kept of those who will not be allowed to vote, and how many rounds until they can vote again. Previous winners (Best) Best NPC: 1st- 3-13 Archer ; 2nd- FE10 Daein Army ; 3rd- Eltshan Best Swordmaster: 1st- Rutger ; 2nd- Lakche ; 3rd- Shanan Best Hair: 1st- Titania ; 2nd- Heath and Stefan (tie) Best Non-Final Boss: 1st- Black Knight ; 2nd- Alvis and Trabant (tie) Best Thief: 1st- Pahn ; 2nd- Matthew ; 3rd- Lifis, Volke, and Sothe (tie, FE10 Sothe can only be assumed) Best Personal Weapon: 1st- Graphcalibur and Pugi (tie) ; 3rd - Wolf Beil Best Chapter: 1st- FE10 2-E and FE5 chapter 14 (tie) ; 3rd- FE6 Chapter 21, FE5 chapter 24x, FE5 chapter 13, FE4 chapter 5, FE5 chapter 22, FE9 chapter 13, FE9 chapter 26, FE8 Ephraim's Route chapter 11, FE10 4-5, FE9 chapter 17, and FE10 3-E (tie) Best Final Chapter- 1st- FE9 ; 2nd- FE4 ; 3rd- FE5 Best Final Boss Weapon- 1st- Judge ; 2nd- Flametongue and Loputousu (tie) Best Personality: 1st- Levin and Kieran (tie) ; 3rd- Wallace Best Rapist or Attempted Rapist: 1st- Narshen ; 2nd- Oliver ; 3rd- FE10 opening movie soldiers Best Tactician: 1st- Mark ; 2nd- Soren ; 3rd- Jeigan Book 2 Best Est Archetype: 1st- Nino ; 2nd- Sara ; 3rd- Zeiss and Pelleas (tie) Best GBA Critical animation- 1st- Lyn (Sol Katti) ; 2nd- Warrior (Axe) ; 3rd- Hector (Armads) Best Console Critical animation- 1st- Celice 1st attack ; 2nd- FE4 Swordmaster/FE10 Black Knight (tie) Best Epilogue- 1st- FE4 ; 2nd- FE10 ; 3rd- FE9 Best Gato Archetype- 1st- Athos/FE5 Sety (tie) ; 3rd- Galzus Best DS critical animation- 1st- Hero (2nd attack), Swordmaster (2nd attack), Mage, Lord, Berserker (1st attack) (tie) Best Form of Abuse- 1st-Favoritism; 2nd-FE9 BEXP Abuse; 3rd-Arena Abuse Best FE- 1st- FE4 ; 2nd- FE5 ; 3rd- FE7 and 10 (tie) Best Ruler: 1st- Alvis ; 2nd- Ashnard, Naesala, Caineghis, Dheginsea, Sanaki (tie) Best Gaiden chapter: 1st- FE7 19x(HM) and FE5 21x (tie); 3rd- FE7 19xx(HM) Best Unit: 1st- Levin!Arthur; 2nd- Ike (O_O); 3rd- Seth Best Merc/Hero: 1st- Dieck ; 2nd- FE3 Oguma ; 3rd- Skasaher Best Paladin (Anything that promotes into it as well): 1st- Seth and Aless (tie) ; 3rd- Titania Best Peg Knight: 1st- FE10 Elincia ; 2nd- FE4 Fee and FE3 Book 2 Paola (tie) Best Defense Chapter: 1st- FE10 3-13 ; 2nd- FE9 C8, FE10 2-E (tie) Best Archer/Sniper/Marksmen: 1st- FE10 Shinon ; 2nd- FE4 Jamka, FE7 Rebecca (O_O) (tie) Best Desert Chapter: 1st FE8 Scorched Sand ; 2nd FE10 4-3 ; 3rd FE7 Living Legend Most Hyped: 1st Lilina ; 2nd FE10 Haar ; 3rd Nino Best Addition to the Game Series: 1st Capture ; 2nd Weapon Triange ; 3rd Rescue and Skills (tie) Best Lord Unit: 1st Sigurd ; 2nd FE10 Ike ; 3rd Arum and FE9 Ike (tie) Most Generic Playable Character: 1st Ralph ; 2nd Aran ; 3rd Vika (she got exactly 1 vote) Best Castle: 1st Crimea Castle and Grado Keep (tie) ; 2nd Daein Keep Best Dragonkid: 1st Fa ; 2nd Chiki ; 3rd Al Best Staff: 1st Again ; 2nd Physic and Warp (tie) Best Knight/General: 1st FE10 Gatrie ; 2nd Oswin ; 3rd Wallace and Amelia (tie) Best Priest/Cleric/Bishop: 1st Sapy ; 2nd Moulder, Natasha and Serra (tie) Best Glass Cannon: 1st Sara ; 2nd Micaiah ; 3rd Lucius Best Wyvernrider: 1st FE10!Haar ; 2nd Miledy ; 3rd FE3Book2!Paola and Altenna (tie) Best Chapter Goal: 1st Rout ; 2nd Escape and Defend (tie) Best First Boss: 1st Lawrence ; 2nd O'Neill ; 3rd Greil Most Important Stat: 1st Speed ; 2nd Defence ; 3rd Strength Best Red/Green Knight: 1st Sain ; 2nd Abel ; 3rd FE9!Kieran and Lance (tie) Best Healer (primary use is healing): 1st Priscilla and Saphy (tie) ; 3rd Laura Best Prologue Chapter: 1st FE4 Prologue ; 2nd FEDS Prologue ; 3rd FE10 2-P Best Weapon Type: 1st Swords ; 2nd Axes and Wind Magic (tie) Best Generic Weapon: 1st Javelin ; 2nd Killing Edge ; 3rd FE10!Hand Axe and Steel Sword (tie) Best Female Physical Fighting Unit: 1st Paola (FE3 Book 2) ; FE9!Titania ; 3rd Lakche Previous winners (Worst) Worst NPC: 1st- The three generic Caelin soldiers in FE7 ; 2nd- Lachesis' 3 Pallies and FE8 Chapter 19 Armor Knights (tie) Worst Swordmaster: 1st- Karla ; 2nd- Shanam ; 3rd- Lucia Worst Hair: 1st- Vaida ; 2nd- Gheb, Lowen, and Makalov (tie) Worst Non-Final Boss: 1st- Aion ; 2nd- Toras ; 3rd Batta the Beast Worst Thief: 1st- Cath ; 2nd- Daisy ; 3rd- Ricardo Worst Personal Weapon: 1st- FE9 Rolf's Bow ; 2nd- Sol Katti ; 3rd- Daim Thunder, Ettard, Amiti of FE9, and Caldabolg (tied) Worst Chapter: 1st- Lyn's prologue normal mode ; 2nd- FE6 chapter 14 ; 3rd- FE7 Chapter 11 (Eliwood's tale), FE10 4-1, FE10 1-5, FE4 chapter 7, and FE7 16x/17x (tie) Worst Final chapter: 1st- FE6 ; 2nd- FE10 ; 3rd- FE8 Worst Final Boss Weapon: 1st- Dark breath ; 2nd- Nightmare ; 3rd- Ravager Worst Personality: 1st- Aran and Vika (tie) ; 3rd- Soren, Florina, Horace and Clarine (tie) Worst Rapist or Attempted Rapist: 1st- Gheb ; 2nd- Oliver ; 3rd- General Lang, Eliot, Garnef, and Narshen (tie) Worst Tactician: 1st- Malledus ; 2nd- Mark ; 3rd- Soren Worst Est archetype: 1st- Sophia ; 2nd- Est and Fiona (Tie) Worst GBA critical animation: 1st- Great Knight ; 2nd- Thief ; 3rd- Mage, Bishop, Pirate, Soldier, and Ewan (tie) Worst Console critical animation; 1st- FE10 Sword Armor ; 2nd- FE4 Mage Knight ; 3rd- FE4 Bow Users Worst Epilogue: 1st- FE9 ; 2nd- FE11 ; 3rd- FE8 and FE4 (tie) Worst Gato Archetype: 1st- Karel ; 2nd- Gato/Gotoh ; 3rd- Lehran Worst DS critical animation: 1st- Sorceror, General (Bow), Mage (tie) Worst Form of Abuse: 1st-Battle Save Abuse; 2nd-Arena Abuse; 3rd-RNG Stat Abuse Worst FE: 1st- FE1 ; 2nd- FE7 and 8 (tie) Worst Ruler: 1st- Desmond; 2nd- Dheginsea; 3rd- Mordred, Alvis, Darin, Talis, Nailah, Micaiah, Victor (7 way tie ) Worst Gaiden chapter: 1st- FE5 24x; 2nd- FE7 19xx(HM); 3rd- FE5 14x, FE6 22x, FE7 31x(HM), FE11 16x (tie) Worst Unit: 1st- Bantu; 2nd- Yuno and Lyre (tie) Worst Merc/Hero: 1st- FEDS Samson ; 2nd- Oujay ; 3rd- FE3 Samson Worst Paladin (Anything that promotes into it as well): 1st- Arran ; 2nd- Zealot ; 3rd- Vyland Worst Peg Knight: 1st- FEDS Est ; 2nd- FE6 Yuno ; 3rd- Sigrun, FE9 Elincia, Florina and Syrene (tie) Worst Defense Chapter: 1st- FE7 C15 ; 2nd- FE9 C13 ; 3rd- FE7 C18 (HM), FE7 C28 (HM), FE9 C8, FE10 1-5, FE10 3-5 (tie) Worst Archer/Sniper/Marksmen: FE6 Wolt ; 2nd- FE5 Ronan, FE9 Rolf (tie) Worst Desert Chapter: 1st FE6 Arcadia ; 2nd FE9 Chapter 15 ; 3rd FE10 4-3 Least Hyped: 1st Thomas ; 2nd FE10 Aran ; 3rd Eliwood ; Arum and Syrene (Tied) Worst Addition to the Game Series: 1st Reclass ; 2nd GBA support system ; 3rd Fatigue Worst Lord Unit: 1st Lyn ; 2nd Roy ; 3rd Micaiah Least Generic Playable Character: 1st Levin ; 2nd Oliver ; 3rd Ardan Worst Castle: 1st Nados Castle ; 2nd Laus (yes, a territory was voted as the second worst castle) ; 3rd Araphen Castle, Jehanna Hall, Castle Nox and Castle Goldoa Worst Dragonkid: 1st Al ; 2nd Myrrh ; 3rd Chiki Worst Staff: 1st Silence ; 2nd Berserk ; 3rd Again Worst Knight/General: 1st Wendy ; 2nd Meg ; 3rd Ardan Worst Priest/Cleric/Bishop: 1st Corple ; 2nd Wrys ; 3rd Renault Worst Glass Cannon: 1st Lilina ; 2nd Diadora, Micaiah, Sophia (3 way tie) Worst Wyvernrider: 1st Eda ; 2nd FEDS!Est ; 3rd Zeiss Worst Chapter Goal: 1st Seize ; 2nd Rout ; 3rd Survive and Escape (tie) Worst First Boss: 1st O'Neill ; 2nd Greil ; 3rd Lawrence Least Important Stat: 1st Resistance ; 2nd Luck ; 3rd Skill Worst Red/Green Knight: 1st Alec ; 2nd Noish ; 3rd Alva Worst Healer (primary use is healing): 1st Renault ; 2nd FE10!Oliver and Wrys (tie) Worst Prologue Chapter: 1st FE7 (Lyn's Mode) ; 2nd FE8 Prologue ; 3rd FE9 Prologue and FE10 3-P (tie) Worst Weapon Type: 1st Knives ; 2nd Dark Magic ; 3rd Axes Worst Generic Weapon: 1st FE10!Longbows ; 2nd Slim Sword ; 3rd Hammer Worst Female Physical Fighting Unit: 1st Wendy ; 2nd Lyre ; 3rd Yunno Nominations Best/Wost Reference to plant-life (2) Best/Worst Quote (2) Best/Worst Support Unit (2) Best/Worst Couple (2) Best/Worst Unlockable Character Best/Worst Pet Best/Worst Facial Hair Most Easy/Most Difficult Boss (3) Best/Worst Support Conversation (2) Best/Worst Mount Best/Worst Offense Best/Worst Name Best/Worst Princess (2) Best/Worst Player Phase Battle Music (6) Best/Worst Enemy Phase Battle Music Best/Worst Special Battle Theme (2) Best/Worst Map Music Best/Worst Version of Wrath Best/Worst Flying Unit Best/Worst Late Non-Final Boss Best/Worst Jeigan (Seth and FE9!Titania excluded) (3) Best/Worst Terrain Type (2) Best/Worst Bow-only unit Best/Worst Artwork Best/Worst Skills Combo Best/Worst Bald Unit Best/Worst Jeigan (Seth and FE9!Titania excluded) Best: Marcus (FE7) Worst: Sothe (FE10) Edited August 1, 2010 by NinjaMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 (edited) Best: Marcus (FE7) Besides the fact that he is pretty damn useful for the HM in at least earlygame, I'm also putting personality factor into this one. I blame all those character stuff people write on ChinaFE. It gave me so much respect for him. And his bases. They are actually comparable to Seth's. Though he won't be growing as well. Honorary mention goes to Oifey. Worst: Arran (FE12, if that doesn't count, FE3) At least Sothe can steal things and his midriff is one of my favorite characters. EDIT: NOMINATE: Best/Worst Holy Weapon. Edited August 1, 2010 by Luminescent Blade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon of Sin Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Best : Dagda Worst : Alan in FE 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Best> FE6!Marcus Worst> FE10!Sothe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 (edited) Worst: FE3 Book 2 Alan Best: Dagda. Nominating Best/Worst Skill. Edited August 1, 2010 by Ein Lanford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charpig Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Best: Sothe, from FE10 Worst: Jagen, of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Best: Dagda. Capture beast and is good all the way until Endgame with a SPD ring and/or SPD level ups from Sety scroll. Worst: FE3 Book 2 Alan/Arran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Rey León Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 (edited) Best: Changed vote to FE7!Marcus. Worst: FE10 Sothe. Unlike other Jeigans, you can bench them once you're done with them. Sothe is a Jeigan that's FORCED and his usefulness ends earlier than most Jeigans because his class restricts him. Edited August 1, 2010 by El Rey León Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 (edited) Best: FE7!Marcus Worst: The original creator of the archetype, none other than Jagen himself! Dishonarary mention goes to FE12!Arran, although he stinks in FE11/1 as well. Edited August 1, 2010 by Darros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sploosh Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Best: FE7 Marcus Worst: FE3 Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Best: Hmm. . .two-way tie here. . .I'm going with FE7 Marcus, because of his insane weapon levels. Worst: . . .this isn't a competition. FE3 Arran/Alan/blond cross-eyed dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mousefire Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Best:Oifaye Worst:Arran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galenforcer Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Best: FE7 Marcus, just try playing HHM without him Worst: Evayl, Dagda can capture and abuse scrolls all he wants throughout the game, Evayl can't because she joins again too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methan0n Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 (edited) Best: FE6!Marcus Worst: FE3 Book 2 Arran Edited August 1, 2010 by Palpatine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 (edited) Worst: FE10 Sothe. Unlike other Jeigans, you can bench them once you're done with them. Sothe is a Jeigan that's FORCED and his usefulness ends earlier than most Jeigans because his class restricts him. How does being forced make him worse? It's not like he gets in your way (unless you just suck). Being forced just gives him more opportunities to help. Anyway... Best: FE10 Sothe. Worst: Jeigan. If the game matters, FEDS. Edited August 1, 2010 by Red Fox of Fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Best:Oifaye Worst:Arran Ofaiye isn-t a Jeigan. Like Seth and Tianiam hes an Ofaiye. How does being forced make him worse? It's not like he gets in your way (unless you just suck). Being forced just gives him more opportunities to help. You are forced to baby him if you haven-t trained him by Part 3 or 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEST TRYNDAMERE PLAYER Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Best: FE6 Marcus. Worst: This is a tough one as I like all the Jeigans in efficient play. I'll go with FE3 Book 1 Jeigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryphen Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Best: FE7 Marcus Worst: FE1 Jeigan (His growth rates are the same as FE3 Book 1 but his base stats are even lower) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 (edited) Best: I'll go with FE7!Marcus. Great bases, with excellent weapon ranks. The only thing I see wrong with him so far is the low speed and defense growths, but other than that, he's A-okay with me. (Honorable mention goes to FE10!Sothe.) Worst: I haven't delved into FE12 at all to want to vote Arran So for now, I'll vote for the archtype namer himself, Shadow Dragon version. Ofaiye isn't a Jeigan. Like Seth and Titania, hes an Ofaiye. Which means he's still a Jagen, but he doesn't fall behind later on like others in the Jagen archetype. Edited August 1, 2010 by LittleAl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Rey León Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 How does being forced make him worse? It's not like he gets in your way (unless you just suck). Being forced just gives him more opportunities to help. Because his usefulness ends quickly. He doesn't help much at all, especially once your team catches up to him. This is the point where you usually drop your Jeigan, but Sothe is FORCED so you're stuck with. And he'll eventually fall behind because of his class which is far more utility unit than combat unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 You are forced to baby him if you haven-t trained him by Part 3 or 4. How? Why not just not use him? Forced to the map doesn't mean forced into battle. Because his usefulness ends quickly. He doesn't help much at all, especially once your team catches up to him. This is the point where you usually drop your Jeigan, but Sothe is FORCED so you're stuck with. And he'll eventually fall behind because of his class which is far more utility unit than combat unit. Yes, and? What have you proven? Is Sothe's presence on the battlefield hurting your performance somehow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 (edited) FE10 Sothe, obviously, for best. (dunno why people are complaining about him being forced. oh noes, you can't field some scrub like Meg or Fiona in that space, whatever shall you do) No vote for worst. Oh, apparently I can't do that. FE3DS Arran, then. Based on the comments of others, Eyvel. Edited August 3, 2010 by Slowking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mercenary Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Best: FE10 Sothe - he's at least useful until 5-E-1 as a chest-opener/hidden-item-finder, and maybe next chapter too with a Disarm/steal combo. Bane helps him do the Jeigan job of weakener well. And better than any Jeigan (Seth excluded), he's the best of his class (not that it's by much). Worst: FEDS Jagen (or FE1/3 Book 1 Jeigan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 (edited) Best: FE7 Marcus for actually being good. Worst: Eveyl. Because she can't even do her job well at all. She's too strong to be a weakener when you get her (even with Iron Sword still has trouble being a weakener due to crit rate), she's barely around, and when you finally get her back, she's garbage unless you shove a Luna Manual and Strength rings on her. Say what you want about Alan, at least he had some uses (High Move plus weapon rank plus can double a lot early on), Eveyl's just bad. Edited August 1, 2010 by Dark Sage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon of Sin Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 (edited) Worst: Eveyl. Because she can't even do her job well at all. She's too strong to be a weakener when you get her (even with Iron Sword still has trouble being a weakener due to crit rate), she's barely around, and when you finally get her back, she's garbage unless you shove a Luna Manual and Strength rings on her. Say what you want about Alan, at least he had some uses (High Move plus weapon rank plus can double a lot early on), Eveyl's just bad. Early on, you could have her rescue someone like Tanya. This does drop most of her stats and killing potential. She does have good movement and movement stars, on top of being invincible before she's petrified. Edited August 1, 2010 by Medeus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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