zahlman Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 (edited) Actually, Legault is pwning Wire stats-wise (that'd be pretty pathetic otherwise) unless you really are taking "stronger" literally (which doesn't make any sense anyway since the original quote refers to "ability"). :/ Anyway, while he isn't statted in-game, I'd also like to think Ephidel is good at something other than convincing nobility to do evil shit. Edited April 11, 2012 by zahlman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted April 17, 2012 Author Share Posted April 17, 2012 (edited) [spoiler=Chapter 21 Part 1] He looks exactly the same. I am pretty sure that this is a crack at my ability to update on time. Fuck you, Nils, you're a dead man. The concept of knowing people is foreign to Hector. Well it's not like he constantly called him Father and screamed bloody murder when he died or anything. Did you... did you not pay attention in the last chapter? At all? I don't know of anyone who lost their memory from being in a boat during a storm. Just saying. But they were talking about killing us and taking the girl. You know, it's why I suggested we leave the girl. Do we have any psych majors that can explain why this is bullshit? Wait, why am I asking for a psych major to explain why something is bullshit? No Hector he's like six, it's obviously a big game of pretend to him. Well I'm going to guess that without energy they die. I must be some sort of psychic! "Lyn knows" is probably the most questionable claim made in the entire game. Which is why Nergal wanted a feeble minded fool that gets one rounded by Hector to participate in a war. I don't follow. Yeah except the whole war thing was thwarted because people randomly went missing and you sent out a bunch of pegasus knights to assassinate people. I'm pretty sure that Nergal is just incompetent. Which was what, Elbert? Elbert was pretty alive and not-drained-of-quintessence. Oh. Okay. Which is why he killed him. Oh wait no he didn't he left him alive so that he could let little shits like you escape and ruin his plans. So, Elbert is that coach that always plays his kid in important positions like pitcher even though his kid is shit at it? Edited April 17, 2012 by Paperblade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 I AM UNCREATIVE You look troubled, my child. Is there anything I might- I AM A TERRIBLE SON. OH GOD HOW COULD I LET THIS HAPPEN DEAR GOD Seriously, who was that guy? Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30425.com Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 You just made my day, Refa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 So, Elbert is that coach that always plays his kid in important positions like pitcher even though his kid is shit at it? Eliwood's expression makes this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Refa, you're bloody amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Lord Erk Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 " don't know of anyone who lost their memory from being in a boat during a storm. Just saying." I like to think Link in Link's awakening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geriba Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Yeah, I always felt it wasn't well explained what the hell Elbert was up to. And the scene with Jaffar is ridiculous. He blocks their way, but doesn't kill anyone (for some reason) and Ephidel is all like "Good work, now scram". Elbert was opposed to the rebellion, but was kidnapped and used for the ritual. Jaffar's role was to keep Eliwood & Co. at bay until Nergal showed up. Nergal is an all-powerful shaman rivaling Athos, one of the Legendary Heroes, in power; if Jaffar can handle these guys from a plot perspective, then so can Nergal. Not seeing the problem here \ IS must have felt that, unlike with Pent, having Jaffar roflstomp everything nearby (except on HHM where they give everyone swordreavers for some dumb reason) while he waits for you to arrive wasn't enough to convey how awesome he's supposed to be, so they had to hype him up in a couple of cutscenes, too. Except they didn't really think about the logical ramifications. And then there's Legault's hype, which is on a whole other tier of ridiculous. Funny, I'd have thought the one "second in ability to none but the Four Fangs" would be, you know, Jaffar. There has always been, and will always be, an essential distinction between plot and gameplay in RPGs. At this point, Jaffar is one of the Four Fangs. Not seeing the problem here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) Elbert was opposed to the rebellion, but was kidnapped and used for the ritual. Why wasn't he knocked unconcious? Jaffar's role was to keep Eliwood & Co. at bay until Nergal showed up. Why didn't he kill them? Nergal is an all-powerful shaman rivaling Athos, one of the Legendary Heroes, in power; if Jaffar can handle these guys from a plot perspective, then so can Nergal. Why didn't he kill them? There has always been, and will always be, an essential distinction between plot and gameplay in RPGs. Shut up. This is a FLAW, games should not be content in settling with the mediocre. Edited April 30, 2012 by Refa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geriba Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Why wasn't he knocked unconcious? Because he was being held in a high-security prison guarded by Ephidel and Jaffar, soon to be Nergal, and the huge Black Fang force that was supposed to stop Eliwood & Co.? Plus, the ritual was coming up. Why didn't he kill them? Nergal is hubristic. As he states explicitly, he wants to see Eliwood & Co. in a state of abject fear, desperation, and failure. Common antagonistic trope. Shut up. This is a FLAW, games should not be content in settling with the mediocre. If this is a flaw, then every RPG in existence is equally flawed. Why can Cloud take bullets and receive 5 damage in FFVII, but Aeris can't take swords? Why do units in Fire Emblem survive after being impaled by spears and having their heads twain by fighters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 (edited) Dear Nils: Shut up [spoiler=Chapter 21 Part 2 Electric Boogaloo] We have established that this is a front because Eliwood sucks at fighting. Note that this is a different train of thought from "Eliwood is Elbert's son." Sure. It means we don't have to look at his sorry face. And if he commits suicide, well, we just restart the chapter. You've been spending too much time with Lyn. That... doesn't make any sense. You don't just let people like that wander off. "YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD!!!" ... Obviously it means the wounds weren't lethal. ... ... I'll let this one go. Oh baby. Hector knows what this is about~ Aren't you supposed to be feeling sorry for yourself and not eavesdropping? "Also we're already in the village." You guys are the worst. Hey wait stop. I'm supposed to be killing Nils. Yeah, I need to kill Nils, not you. Look, unless your dances slowly drain your brother's life, I don't care. I don't need help. I have Hector. See? ... Dammit Eliwood. We can't all be little girls, crazy unkempt hobo. Please stay away from me. Edited May 7, 2012 by Paperblade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikethfc Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 We can't all be little girls, crazy unkempt hobo. Please stay away from me. Quit stomping on his dream you bully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breezy Kanzaki Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 See? ... Dammit Eliwood. . Both hits happen at 22%. Something is clearly wrong here, how is Eliwood doing 13 damage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliban of Sycorax Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 because generic brigands have shit defenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 We can't all be little girls, crazy unkempt hobo. Please stay away from me. Ein Silver Rose is in this game?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Vanguard Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 because generic brigands have shit defenses. This. Only bosses have decent defense, but then again Hector will just laugh at there defense and LOL OHKO them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 [spoiler=Chapter 21 Part 3] Just assume no and rush him to a medic. But not anyone else's lands. Just ours. So your plan is to get someone else to solve the problem for you. I like it. Hector doesn't understand double negatives. He's working overtime to try to understand what was just said. What, you aren't a telepath? I am, that's how I get my orders out to you people during combat. I am also a master of astral projection, that's how I get an overhead view and see conversations that I am nowhere near. Nah, I think Uther will be fine with the crazy guy that wants to bring back dragons and take over the world. Also that Elbert is dead. There will be no stress here. Who? I am pretty sure he got stabbed in the back while trying to stab another guy in the back. How did you know where we were? Oh, right, telepathy. Stop projecting your incompetence onto everyone else. Yes I do. It's not luck, you oaf, you guys ignore me and then act surprised when things go wrong just how I thought they would. I want out. Jet black hair and gold eyes, eh? Yeah, whatever you're into, buddy. Okay. Um. You mean, like the people that injured you? Why not kill them? Or manipulate those people with great power to kill Eliwood and friends? Just trying to help. Woah woah woah wait a minute. Why didn't you have this guy kill us back on the island? What are you, five? You can't just kill everyone you don't like! You need to solve your problems like a mature, responsible adult! I'm not sure what that entails, though. I think you're supposed to yell at them a lot and call them names. Hey, remember that time when you were ten and you walked in on your parents doing naughty things? Yeah, that's what's going on in this scene. Except it's more like you're having dinner and your father starts fondling your mother. Enjoy that mental image. This is, as the kids are calling it nowadays, a "sick burn." Wow, this sounds dangerous. Good thing I jumped ship when Hector gave me the chance. Shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nano Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 So I came back to this thread after 8 months to find more updates, yay. I'll come back in another 8 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 paperblade update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 Mekkah postgame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Hee hee. I've been looking forward to Hector's modes chapter 22 for almost the entire LP. Because two of my favorite characters show up in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Hee hee. I've been looking forward to Hector's modes chapter 22 for almost the entire LP. Because two of my favorite characters show up in it. Generic Ostian Knight and that thief who runs off with the Brave Axe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ether Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Generic Ostian Knight and that thief who runs off with the Brave Axe? Do not even get me started on that thief. Soo sexy~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 (edited) Generic Ostian Knight and that thief who runs off with the Brave Axe? You know me too well, clipsey, but that's probably because we have very similar tastes in characters. Edited May 31, 2012 by Folgore Yellow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitewings ilia Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 (edited) ... Dammit Eliwood. Ah...that whiny-boy. Because of you, I must restart a whole chapter again and again. Sigh.................... Let's Thorton scan this person BZWEEEEEEPPP!! Result : Horrible Unit! He's a whiny-boy who become an imposter of the real Noble of Pherae. Claim can battle, but actually he can't. Almost suicide at battlefield. That's kind of my expression toward Eli-boy. Edited May 31, 2012 by whitewings ilia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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