Icon of Sin Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Just a random question like that : is Ethlin's Light Brand still unbreakable after you capture her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methan0n Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 (edited) Just a random question like that : is Ethlin's Light Brand still unbreakable after you capture her? Yes, it is. A shame that you still can't use that infinite use Sleep Sword. Also, any idea on how to promote Eine? Mine didn't seem to promote via Knight or Master Proof. Btw, who can use the Swanchika you get from Patty? Any ideas? Edited April 9, 2011 by Scaramanga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archsage17 Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Let's see Eine promotes via master proof at level 35 and about the swanchika Patty has (how ill never know) according to what ive seen on Youtube for this hack, Leaf can promote to Master Knight and he can use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinKuma Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 You can nightmare this game also. I already tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon of Sin Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 (edited) Yes, it is. A shame that you still can't use that infinite use Sleep Sword. Aw dammit. Let's see Eine promotes via master proof at level 35 and about the swanchika Patty has (how ill never know) according to what ive seen on Youtube for this hack, Leaf can promote to Master Knight and he can use it. For reference, this will help. If you notice a "⇒" between two classes, that means the character needs a Master Proof at level 35. Also the axe, Nailring, is supposedly useable by Lenster nobles. Anyone tried it on Xavier? Edited April 9, 2011 by Dio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methan0n Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 (edited) Aw dammit. For reference, this will help. If you notice a "⇒" between two classes, that means the character needs a Master Proof at level 35. Also the axe, Nailring, is supposedly useable by Lenster nobles. Anyone tried it on Xavier? Unless Xavier can use Axes upon promotion, he can't use it ( I recruited him but didn't bother training him D: ). Edit: Hacked Axes onto Xavier. He can't use the Nailring ): Edited April 9, 2011 by Scaramanga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon of Sin Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Oh well, it's still a nice weapon for Leaf to slay Thracian Dragon Knights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorhammer Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 @Blazing_Soul: I tried using Nightmare Item Editors on it, but it said that it was incompatible with the rom. What are you using? @Scaramanga: What are you using to edit the patch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methan0n Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 @Blazing_Soul: I tried using Nightmare Item Editors on it, but it said that it was incompatible with the rom. What are you using? @Scaramanga: What are you using to edit the patch? Nightmare, it worked fine here. Which version of the Thracia 776 rom are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted April 9, 2011 Author Share Posted April 9, 2011 Also, what exactly does that red orb Oliver comes with in Chapter 5 do? The infinite use one. It's an infinite use vulnerary for bosses. Also the axe, Nailring, is supposedly useable by Lenster nobles. Anyone tried it on Xavier? I think Felgus can use it as well. Can't really remember though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorhammer Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Never mind - I got Nightmare to work. However, is it possible to keep 1-3 range on weapons that had it initially using Nightmare? Nightmare tries setting it to 1 range or 1-2 range instead. Also, for some reason, I can't capture Lifis anymore. My Eyvel has higher stats in everything, including build, than him, but she can't capture him for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted April 9, 2011 Author Share Posted April 9, 2011 (edited) However, is it possible to keep 1-3 range on weapons that had it initially using Nightmare? Nightmare tries setting it to 1 range or 1-2 range instead. Find "Range" in the item editor (open it in a text editor) and change NDHU to HEXA. EDIT Also change "Weapon Range.txt" to NULL. Edited April 9, 2011 by VincentASM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorhammer Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Ah, okay. Thanks! Do you know what might have caused Lifis to become uncapturable? Like, literally, I've tried every character I have with higher build than him, and the capture option never shows up. The only things I fiddled with on Nightmare are character base stats and skills, and items. Is it possible that a skill might prevent a character from being capturable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted April 9, 2011 Author Share Posted April 9, 2011 The only things I fiddled with on Nightmare are character base stats and skills, and items. Is it possible that a skill might prevent a character from being capturable? Could be, at which point through the game did you start editing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorhammer Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 I edited and then started a new playthrough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted April 9, 2011 Author Share Posted April 9, 2011 (edited) I edited and then started a new playthrough. I see, that raises the chance of it being due to some editing going wrong (or maybe Nightmare changing some values that it thinks aren't right, like with the weapon ranges). The only thing I can recommend now is suspend your game right before starting 2x and continue your save on the unedited Super Thracia ROM until you've captured Rifis. BTW, how many edits did you make in Nightmare? If it's not a lot, you can probably easily recreate those changes with a hex editor, which is probably more safer in this situation (since the modules weren't create with the hack in mind). Edited April 9, 2011 by VincentASM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methan0n Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 (edited) I think Felgus can use it as well. Can't really remember though. Yeah, Felgus can use it. Maybe Xavier can only use it when he promotes to Marshall? Edited April 9, 2011 by Scaramanga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sartek Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Does someone know how we promote Linoan the first time? I'm currently at chapter 21 and the chapel is off limit and can't be visited by any of my chars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted April 9, 2011 Author Share Posted April 9, 2011 There's another church near your starting position (might be hidden by one of your characters). I promoted Linoan there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sartek Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 (edited) Thanks for the answer. It was hidden by Leaf. Edited April 9, 2011 by Sartek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
王小小 Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 I've been playing this hack for a while now, and I've got to say it's been a love/hate affair. Some chapters feel so cheap. Here are some of my thoughts/questions: Chapter 14x- It didn't seem too bad at first, until I went north. Needless to say, it took a ton of savestate abuse to get through all of those reinforcements. Where do they come from??? At least I managed to hoard a bunch of silver weapons. Chapter 15- Too many Roros! And they destroyed the church too, so no Sleuf for me (in 16A). Other than that it was a nice EXP hoarding chapter. Chapter 17A- Ashnard was a pain in the ass. Thankfully I hurt him enough to force him to heal every turn. By the time his vulnerary was used up, he left. And what's up with the BK appearing after you recruit Sara? I basically had to get her right before seizing. Those Novistadors caught me by surprise too; they're in the spot where the usual long range tome Bishops would be. Chapter 19- This was the first chapter I got stuck on for a while despite using cheats for the first time. I wanted to recruit Galzus and Misha without getting slaughtered at the bottom. Easier said than done. At first I used cheats to give Leaf infinite turns and had him kill everything. However, a horde of dragon knights spawned like a turn or two later, and kept spawning every turn; 8 or so near the castle, and about 12 (I think) in the plain in a circular formation. I realized that that at the beginning the enemy numbers were maxed out, so every time I killed an enemy, a dragon knight would spawn. Thus on my subsequent attempts (without cheats), I avoided killing enemies and after recruiting the new characters; I rescued them and rescued them. I barely made it to the castle before the dragon knight spawns became too numerous. Chapter 20- At this point in the game, I used cheats from here onward. After playing it legitimately for a few turns, I was pretty certain that there was a near zero percent chance of everyone surviving the dragon knights, so I used Super Leaf (with infinite turns) to clear out stuff. Chapter 21- In the original, reinforcements spawned like crazy. This chapter was the same, so I just used Super Leaf to clear it. Chapter 21x- Are you freaking kidding me? Arden returns, and he's cloned himself like 40 times. Needless to say, I let Super Leaf kill every Arden and the reinforcement Ardens too. I rescued everyone and escaped everyone save for Super Leaf since I wanted to see what the would be in place of the Dark Mage reinforcements on turn 30. They turned out to be Novistadors wielding dark magic, so I didn't bother fighting them lol. Chapter 22- This chapter is absolutely insane, even worse than the original. I made Super Leaf into Super Thief Leaf (gave him the steal skill). I tried a blind run without cheats and it failed miserably. The problem is the reinforcements. Like in chapter 19, every time you kill someone, reinforcements will spawn. In this case it was a ballista (I left him alone since he blocked his own reinforcement), three pirates, and dragon knights with 100% remove. Basically I had Super Thief Leaf steal everything (got lots of sweet weapons) and slowly killed things one by one, making sure only pirates spawned. Reinforcements stopped around turn 40 (not sure, but it took a while). Towards the end, it was a hilarious sight; all the weaponless enemies were crowding around the weapon shop. The warrior who bought a killer bow couldn't move anywhere, so he clogged up the entrance to the shop. I was able to pick them off and complete the chapter easily at that point. Chapter 23- Another WTF chapter. There's no way anyone could complete this legitimately without losing someone. I tried using Super Thief Leaf, but the real boss came out and killed Arion. Strangely enough, Leaf has a conversation with the boss (who's probably in place of Sety). Second time around, I used my flying units Karin and Sheeda. Guess what? Nobody attacked them! They only created a circle one space away from either flyer. I took advantage of this and picked off every dragon rider off one by one. Still, the boss was a problem; with 90 magical attack most people are going to be OHKO. His tome grants him huge bonuses, so most people can only do 1 pt of damage to him. He also has vantage and prayer and some other skills. I had to hack in a Hell tome to knock his HP down to one, then finish him off. Seriously, there's no other way to kill this guy. Did anyone else beat this map differently? I'm on Chapter 24 now, and I can't kill Ethlin. Should I just use Hell and then knock her out? Or is there another way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorhammer Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Couple of quick questions. If you use the cheat code to access 12x after completing 12, am I still able to proceed with the game normally for the most part? Also, what characters after 12x need to be captured to be recruited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon of Sin Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Also, what characters after 12x need to be captured to be recruited? You need Sheeda to get Boyce, who looks like blonde haired Gerik. You can't recruit Parn and AFAIK Lara doesn't promote to Dancer if she talks to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Ah, okay. Thanks! Do you know what might have caused Lifis to become uncapturable? Like, literally, I've tried every character I have with higher build than him, and the capture option never shows up. The only things I fiddled with on Nightmare are character base stats and skills, and items. Is it possible that a skill might prevent a character from being capturable? What about mounted Fin? Don't mounted units always get a chance to capture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methan0n Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 [spoiler=Real Final Boss] 100 Def and 110 Magic ( 100 + 10 from throne ). Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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