I.M. Gei Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 1/10 Holy crap his stats are awful and his move is also awful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) Even against the Soldiers he is fairly bad. Remember that this is not FE7: Soldiers in this game have an abundance of HP and STR even if they have very little else. Chapter 3 Soldiers, for instance, have 17ATK so they 4HKO Bors=. I'm fairly aware. However, they're the only enemies he even has a semblance of durability against, which is why I mentioned it. Maybe if he had real durability I'd given him an extra .5 or something. He's just an armour who can't even do his job. Edited March 8, 2012 by Luminescent Blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excellen Browning Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 AK with decent growths in the stats he has crap for bases in, bad growths in the stats he has solid bases in. Very WTFuxy unit. Also very SUXy unit. 1/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordsalmon Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 He can throw Javelins at stuff. :/ 3/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitbuller26 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 1/10 An armor knight in early game...really? Was IS trying something different with Boris or just decided to just laugh at him and stick him with Roy at the beginning of the game in a land full of axes? Thanks for the free iron now stay your ass back with Wolt, Boris. Too many questions are to be asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 What an incredibly bad piece of shit. Even bedridden cancer patients fight better than him and have more move 0/10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titamon Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) Really terrible, he cant even tank =/ 1/10 Edited March 8, 2012 by Mage Lord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renall Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 An early-game Knight with free deployment? Well, that's not so bad, at least he can tank a little for Roy and whatnot. Oh, what's that? He can't, because he's Lance-locked in maps filled with axes and so slow he risks getting doubled in short order? Hrm, well at least he can contribute with Javelins... oh, he can't hit anything with Javelins? Jesus, this guy sounds like an active detriment in maps where he's freely deployed! Oh... he is? Well then. I'm sure he gets better later, at least; late bloomer and all that, eventually turns into a brick wall of capped HP and DEF and enough SPD not to get doubled, surely? ...He doesn't even cap DEF on average? At 20/20!? Well then screw this guy. I'm giving him a 1/10 not because I don't believe in going lower than 1, but because there are still people who are somehow worse than he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 0.5/10. He can visit the house in Ch1. Then Merlinus does his job better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 it's not boris 0/10 for not being useful like wolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 it's not boris I know. I did it especially for Mekkah. <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 and 40% spd growth is wtf on an AK. The first armour ever had 3 base speed and 40% growth Anyhow. He can throw javelins at stuff and miss, run to the villages and almost die, then sit on the bench for the rest of the game. .5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 You know, I try giving this lad the benefit of the doubt but his growths, man. What the actual fuckage. He's an armour knight, and his Spd growth is higher than his Def and Str growths, at 40%. I don't care much about the fact his speed growth is good for an AK, it's just that it's higher than the Str and Def growths. And 4 move. Lances aren't renowned for their accuracy in this game, either. Near enough has everything going against him. Can't really do chip damage effectively because he can't even keep up with the rest of the units. Worse than Wolt, and that's saying something. He loses 5% because of his stupid hair. 10%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethereal Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Somehow, some way, he does less in free chapters than Wolt. He can't really chip, he moves slow as all hell, has mediocre durability, and gets doubled by a ton. The only thing he's actually good for is getting stuff from houses, which even Merlinus can do. 0/10. I think people are rating some of these guys too highly, a lot of the cast in FE6 is incredibly worthless on HM. I understand that Wolt makes some minor contributions towards an efficient playthrough, so I can understand that, but Bors does nothing for almost any one. No clue how inaccurate and mediocre chip for 3 chapters is worth a 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I rate him a 1 so I can save the 0 for wendy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I rate him a 1 so I can save the 0 for wendy. That's why I gae him a 2. I wanted to save the 1s and 0 for worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renall Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Somehow, some way, he does less in free chapters than Wolt. He can't really chip, he moves slow as all hell, has mediocre durability, and gets doubled by a ton. The only thing he's actually good for is getting stuff from houses, which even Merlinus can do. 0/10. I think people are rating some of these guys too highly, a lot of the cast in FE6 is incredibly worthless on HM. I understand that Wolt makes some minor contributions towards an efficient playthrough, so I can understand that, but Bors does nothing for almost any one. No clue how inaccurate and mediocre chip for 3 chapters is worth a 3. Because there are ten numbers on the scale, and everything is relative. In a hypothetical FE where everyone has 0% growths and bases of 1 except one guy who has bases of 2 and 10% growths, the latter is Seth-tier, but one of the former could still rate a 7 if they were a Pegasus or Warper or something. Rating both Wolt and Bors a 0 implies equivalence and equality of uselessness between them. This simply isn't true. 2-3 is still an aggressively sub-par score. 1-2 is considered terrible. 0-1 is basically reserved for the absolute worst units in the game, and as shitty as they are, Wolt and Bors are somehow not as bad as those units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onmi Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 2/10, I've always managed to find a use for him on Chapter 6 plugging up one of the corridors (but not the main battle ground because the dedicated tank unit can't fucking tank) so he has a semblance of a use. He also gets minor use in Laus during the initial charge... when the enemy don't all head north and target the cavaliers anyway. but none of that makes up for map upon map of sucking shit. ARMOR KNIGHTS NEED REGULAR MOVEMENT! I will keep screaming this fact until it happens, but IntSys still doesn't know what the fuck they are doing. In their minds it makes sense right? Strong unit hampered by movement, useful for chokepoints and breeches. But there are so few choke points and they can be plugged better by a unit not going to miss 90% of his attacks, while the poor old AK is still desperately trying to keep up. Bors wouldn't be a good unit by far (Lance locked during Axes which make up most of the early game) but having 5 movement when everyone else does would make him suck a lot less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethereal Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Because there are ten numbers on the scale, and everything is relative. In a hypothetical FE where everyone has 0% growths and bases of 1 except one guy who has bases of 2 and 10% growths, the latter is Seth-tier, but one of the former could still rate a 7 if they were a Pegasus or Warper or something. Rating both Wolt and Bors a 0 implies equivalence and equality of uselessness between them. This simply isn't true. 2-3 is still an aggressively sub-par score. 1-2 is considered terrible. 0-1 is basically reserved for the absolute worst units in the game, and as shitty as they are, Wolt and Bors are somehow not as bad as those units. My point was that a 3 implies that he is about 1/3 as useful as Lance, Marcus, or Allen (Actually more than that.) which I think is incredibly generous. I can understand a rating of 1, if you think that being a smaller liability is better. But, while he can contribute a little more than Wendy and Sophia, it's very close to nothing contributed at all. This is all just my opinion of course. Maybe I don't know of strategies that effectively utilize him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I think Wendy'd have about the same score as Bors really. She at least helps break down that wall. But my opinion on Wendy is reserved for the correct topic, when it eventually comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recondite Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Well, the problem is that people think the ratings mean different things. I was thinking about this as it pertains to some of my later ratings. If it actually works that way ( a 3 is 1/3 as good as a 9), then even at a rating of 1, Bors still doesn't contribute a ninth of what Marcus does, so we'd have to give a lot of absurdly low ratings, and Sophia would have to get something like a 0.000004, which is ridiculous. So the only way this can really make sense is if the ratings are purely relative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I think Wendy'd have about the same score as Bors really. She at least helps break down that wall. But my opinion on Wendy is reserved for the correct topic, when it eventually comes. I don't really consider that an argument, but this isn't the time or place, so I'm not going to pursue the subject further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onmi Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I rate each unit as an individual and how much synergy they bring. Well except for Alance because they work as a duo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epic Fail Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) Bors. An armour with crap bases (to the point where he can't do his job outside of visiting that one village, but seriously, the village is a better unit than this prick) and growths that will never make up for them. 1/10, because if you are insane and do train him, he's still going to end up rubbish (unless you go COMPLETELY mad and stuff him full of boots and then you're doing it wrong). EDIT: Grammar fail. Edited March 8, 2012 by Epic Fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Laufeyson Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Boris/Bors. That one guy with the silly hairdo. Pros: Good base defense. Cons: Bad bases everywhere else. Meh growths. Bad move. Can barely hit the broad side of a barn. Actually, i almost forgot this guy even existed. Also whats up with all the shitty units in this game? Man... This guy just isnt gonna contribute much to the team. He would make an ok meat shield during those first two chapters but other than that, i cant see any real use for this guy. Even Gilliam was better as an early game armor. Meh. 1/10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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