Ninian Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Does dying happen to her often? Oh, wait, she's SERRA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWalker Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Hey, Arch, won't this mechanic upset the banshee of the tales by changing the starting line up? I feel that the takes were generally balanced for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Seth Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Finally, I got acquainted with this hack. Passed three first stories - really liked. Seriously, all perfect. Similar I've seen only in "The Last Promise". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 I'm hoping to keep the tales balanced for the most part. Pent's tale had a small party, but it's pretty much the only case where the total ally count goes up. It's mostly a feature for fun. And yeah, I'm having fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klokinator Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 ...This hack is wildly superior to TLP in both story and character dialogue. TLP is really boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siuloir Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) I'm hoping to keep the tales balanced for the most part. Pent's tale had a small party, but it's pretty much the only case where the total ally count goes up. It's mostly a feature for fun. And yeah, I'm having fun. Don't look now Serra, but your boyfriend murders his friends. ...This hack is wildly superior to TLP in both story and character dialogue. TLP is really boring. There's a considerable difference between a 15-16 year old writer and a twentysomething year old writer, to be fair. The Paolini Corollary, if you will. Edited September 15, 2014 by Siuloir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klokinator Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 That's a good point. Still, Iderive no enjoyment from TLP's story and I'm sure Blazer knows it's not the greatest story in a hack ever. I bet he'd do better in a major future project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 I mean, I started this project when I was 16-17. Blazer and I are about the same age, he just finished first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siuloir Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I mean, I started this project when I was 16-17. Blazer and I are about the same age, he just finished first. Out of sheer curiosity, how much has been rewritten over the years? I know at least two tales, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Seth Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 ...This hack is wildly superior to TLP in both story and character dialogue. TLP is really boring. orly? "Elibian Nights" contains few shorts stories, and "The Last Promise" contains one story, but globally. Simply in this hack every story ... um, as in English? Maybe, saturated? Overall, write so: full history line contains into one chapter. In "The last Promise" history and characters reveals slowly, what is traditionally for genre jRPG. Here is all the diffirence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klokinator Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I have no idea what you just said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Seth Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I have no idea what you just said. I write about that comparison in principle not correctly. One hack similar on "Live a Live" from console SNES, another hack created as classic jrpg: pile of dialogues, characters and chapters into a single storyline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) A difference in style means nothing about the quality. Out of sheer curiosity, how much has been rewritten over the years? I know at least two tales, obviously.Trying to put together a timeline because now I'm curious. The first patch was released in the summer of 2010, with the original Lyn, Eliwood and Raven Tales. As far as writing goes: 2010: Eliwood's Tale, Raven's Tale, Lyn's Tale, Pent's Tale, Hector's Tale, Tale Select 2011: Achievements, Karel's Tale, Eliwood's Tale (revamped), Hector's Tale (revamped), Merlinus's Gaiden, Rath's Gaiden, Pent's Gaiden, Bonus Content, Jerrot's Tale, Legault's Tale 2012: Project restarted, Raven's Tale (revamped), Karel's Tale (extended by one map), Jerrot's Tale (revamped map-wise) 2013: Pent's Tale (added Efta), Lyn's Tale (talk chain/alternate ending), Rath's Gaiden (revisions), Kent's Gaiden, Zephiel's Tale 2014: Raven's Tale (revisions), Matchmaker Edited September 15, 2014 by Arch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICKT™ Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 ...This hack is wildly superior to TLP in both story and character dialogue. TLP is really boring. I bet it doesn't help that TLP started out as a forum's circle-jerk clusterfuck that they wanted to pass off as a hack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Red Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) ...This hack is wildly superior to TLP in both story and character dialogue. TLP is really boring. "in my opinion", said the Klok not that I would really disagree with that opinion, but it's nice not to come off as arrogant and stuff because people besides you (e.g. General Seth) are entitled to their own opinions and if you can't respect that much, you should shut the fuck up I'm sure Blazer knows it's not the greatest story in a hack ever. at least I finished it yeah no it's pretty bad, I thought this has been established which is why I'm confused as to why people feel the need to talk about it. meh I should've lied and been like "wtf man TLP is the greatest dat plot twist at the end that I'm pretty sure I didn't even think of" I bet it doesn't help that TLP started out as a forum's circle-jerk clusterfuck that they wanted to pass off as a hack. pretty much this, TLP originally didn't have a story and I had to invent one at about Chapter 20, including retrospectively (because nothing really made sense). whereas EN is a story-focused hack with some gameplay gimmicks that isn't even complete yet and TLP's story-writing finished about 3 years ago and most of it was written (albeit revised) long before that (that is to say, I had to make-up a bullshit story out of dog shit when I was around 15-16 despite having no experience in such a thing and pass it off as playable). sure I could have fixed the story by making the entire hack from scratch but then TLP would have literally never finished (see: every hack ever that takes forever to finish) in other words, the circumstances are completely different it would be like comparing one of Shakespeare's works to a fanfiction or something, written in different times under different circumstances about different things with different intents. if a hack has a worse or better story than TLP, whatever, consider what the hack and hack creator are trying to do. I bet someone will come up with an even worse story (or at least in the opinion of the masses) than this and I certainly hope it isn't bashed because people expect everything to be on the highest-standard (I guess EN is the bar-setter in this case) EDIT: not that I care about the rules but more on-topic: Congrats on almost finishing EN! I hope there's something like a release trailer and maybe some other goodies like "a history of Elibian Nights" or something, the final release of such a long-standing hack should be pretty awesome. Edited September 15, 2014 by Trails in the Blaze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 "wtf man TLP is the greatest dat plot twist at the end that I'm pretty sure I didn't even think of" You're welcome for that - it was in the super shitty original sketch outline that was written by 10th-grade me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I bet it doesn't help that TLP started out as a forum's circle-jerk clusterfuck that they wanted to pass off as a hack. tbf so did Do5, and that's turning out alright. It's not the journey that matters, it's the destination~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWalker Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) Hey, I enjoy TLP. Better story than Awakening. :^ ) Edited September 16, 2014 by Ranger Jack Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iron Rose Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Hey, I enjoy TLP. Better story than Awakening. :^ ) Edgy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWalker Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I enjoy it because of the edginess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninian Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 H-hey, I liked it! It had a couple glitches, sure, but it was fun to do all these things I wouldn't do in a normal Fire Emblem game, all because of the situations! It was great! (Yue is Yuesless during the main story though.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaz Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I enjoyed TLP as well. I also look forward to the changes in EN. Maybe I won't get bored after completing 2-3 routes. Most of those changes look interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayward Winds Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) My only real complaint about TLP is that until the last few chapters, it's a re-run of the tired old imperial invasion plot, same as FE1/FE6/FE8. Once the first few maps are gone the gameplay's mostly fine, and I can't fault it on the technical front. You just have to take the bad with the good. Same with Do5, D&G, Decay of the Fangs, and every other hack out there. Really though, TLP and EN are like fire and ice; incomparable beyond the fact they're both built off FE7. Edited September 16, 2014 by Wayward Winds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbuirus Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Is this hack gonna have that crazy tale thing you were showing? like a year or two ago you had merlinus as an advance wars tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kon Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 You mean the Creative Liberties mode? Yeah, that's still a thing as far as I can recall~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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