FE13 Growths Project

[Paperblade]

Since the growths on the site have been proven inaccurate to some degree, and it doesn't look like we're going to be able to get the growths from the game itself or Nintendo any time soon, I'm putting this together to try to get some idea of what the growths are.

If you're drafting or grinding or whatever, please try to give all this data BEFORE you use those Master and Second Seals. A list of things I need:

• Which unit (and if it's Avatar, what his/her Asset+Flaw are)
  
• What class they're in.
  
• What their stats are currently, including level.
  
• What their stats were at before any level ups in that class (either level 1 from reclassing into that class, or their base stats. The latter is only really necessary if it's a child character since their bases are variable, for other units you can just note the name and the difficulty if relevant).
  
• If it's a child, who the variable parent is (and if the parent is Avatar, what the Asset/Flaw is).
  
• If they capped any stats, please note when this happened (and if possible, what their stats are when it happened).
  
• Any stat boosters you gave them while in that class.
  
• Whether or not they had Aptitude equipped.
  

Note: Just because SF says two classes have the same growths doesn't necessarily mean they do. We already know growths are inaccurate to some degree, let's not make any assumptions.

With a large enough sample size, we should hopefully be able to determine character growths with a high confidence interval.

https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B8O44U5rjvceTEhER0ZZNEU0ZlE/edit?usp=sharing

Edited March 26, 2013 by Paperblade

[Crimson Red]

This sounds like soooooo much work lol

[Lord Raven]

Thanks for your contribution. We really just want to use the central limit theorem and hopefully get a huge sample size to tabulate a some more accurate growths. We may be a little ambitious here but oh well.

[nocturnal YL]

Do you accept units who have already class changed several times? Let's see...

(On second thought, I don't think so. You're trying to relate character stats with their levels. I was originally thinking that you want to keep track of individual level ups, which I can probably help a bit.)

I mean, I can give stuff this these. Below are the level ups I obtained in a run in Infinite Divine Weapons.

Unit: Mariabell (JP version, Lunatic, with Limit Breaker)

Class: Dark Knight

Stats before Lv up:

Lv 42+30 E 86 / HP 80 Str 29 Mag 41 Skl 41 Spd 44 Luk 58 Def 22 Res 42

Stats after Lv up:

Lv 42+31 E 02 / HP 80 Str 30 Mag 41 Skl 41 Spd 45 Luk 58 Def 22 Res 42

Unit: Lissa (JP version, Lunatic, with Limit Breaker)

Class: Valkyrie

Stats before Lv up:

Lv 42+29 E 86 / HP 80 Str 24 Mag 44 Skl 42 Spd 46 Luk 57 Def 21 Res 50

Stats after Lv up:

Lv 42+30 E 02 / HP 80 Str 24 Mag 45 Skl 43 Spd 47 Luk 57 Def 21 Res 50

Unit: Donnel (JP version, Lunatic, with Aptitude and Limit Breaker)

Class: Bow Knight

Stats before Lv up:

Lv 25+29 E 95 / HP 80 Str 48 Mag 20 Skl 48 Spd 49 Luk 55 Def 41 Res 29

Stats after Lv up:

Lv 25+30 E 06 / HP 80 Str 48 Mag 20 Skl 49 Spd 50 Luk 56 Def 42 Res 29

...Don't think that'll be very useful if I can only give fragmented level up info like these. I won't always be sitting right in front of my PC when playing the game.

Edited February 10, 2013 by nocturnal YL

[Paperblade]

Do you accept units who have already class changed several times? Let's see...

Yeah, as long as you can get their level 1 stats in a class and stats like 15 levels later or whenever, I can get data from that.

[nocturnal YL]

Yeah, as long as you can get their level 1 stats in a class and stats like 15 levels later or whenever, I can get data from that.

Noted. I'll try recording data when I next reclass someone then.

[VincentASM]

I'm actually kind of confident about the character and class growths, so long as they're not 80% or 50% (where the charts stop tracking) or for the SpotPass paralogue characters and DLC Marth.

I am kind of dubious about the Asset/Flaw modifications though. Those aren't really illustrated properly in the guidebooks.

Still, I do think tests are necessary. Too bad I have to wait two months to get the game, so I'm just sitting here not helping >___<

Edited February 10, 2013 by VincentASM

[pichupal]

I'll be able to help out eventually.

I REALLY want to add Donny's 0-1 level up quote to the wiki, so I'm going to have to grind a long time with Aptitude unequipped - since I can at least say that he's guaranteed HP and Luck on every level with Aptitude.

[Paperblade]

I do think they're really close (except for Avatar's, who is probably the easiest to test as long as there are people willing to do things that aren't like +Spd/-Lck), but it would be nice to test. Plus, this can be used to test the Spotpass/DLC characters.

[Gergeshwan]

I haven't gotten all that far yet, but for starters...

Avatar (+Spd -Lck)

Tactician Level 18

34 HP, 17 Str, 18 Mag, 15 Skl, 23 Spd, 9 Lck, 11 Def, 9 Res

Sumia

Pegasus Knight Level 16

27 HP, 15 Str, 7 Mag, 22 Skl, 24 Spd, 18 Lck, 9 Def, 12 Res

Chrom

Lord Level 13

31 HP, 13 Str, 1 Mag, 16 Skl, 18 Spd, 15 Lck, 13 Def, 3 Res

I'll go try and level up some less used characters and add them in.

[Lusankya]

I already love the project. Too bad I also have to wait two months before I can contribute anything. :(

[braiel]

I'll be sure to record all my stats for future playthroughs I started to doubt the growths when my nowi had gained 4 speed by lvl 24 with what is listed as a 50% growth

[Darth_Lavos]

I'll be able to help out eventually.

I REALLY want to add Donny's 0-1 level up quote to the wiki, so I'm going to have to grind a long time with Aptitude unequipped - since I can at least say that he's guaranteed HP and Luck on every level with Aptitude.

Wouldn't it be easier to keep Aptitude on and then switch him back to villager once he maxes his good stats? After you go through the initial 10 levels as a villager, it'll take about 18-20ish levels as a mercerary to max out everything but HP, Mag, and Res. After that take off Aptitude and HP has an 85% chance to proc while Mag/Res only have a 15/20% chance of proccing.

[pichupal]

Wouldn't it be easier to keep Aptitude on and then switch him back to villager once he maxes his good stats? After you go through the initial 10 levels as a villager, it'll take about 18-20ish levels as a mercerary to max out everything but HP, Mag, and Res. After that take off Aptitude and HP has an 85% chance to proc while Mag/Res only have a 15/20% chance of proccing.

You get a different quote if four stats have been maxed - so it might be hard to rig that way.

I'll start contributing once I start my next playthrough, or I'll just spam Avatar/Fred in normal over and over again when I have some free time.

[Titamon]

Miriel- Mage Lv. 17 (Never re-classed)

27 HP, 2 STR, 17 MAG, SKL16, SPD 18, LCK16, 7 DEF, 12 RES

Base:

18 HP, 0 STR, 6 MAG, 5 SKL, 7 SPD, 6 LCK, 3 DEF, 4 RES

I think honestly think Miriel's mag growth is like 70-75ish and her HP is 55-60ish

[eclipse]

No, I don't have stats. What I do have is a little something I noticed:

Donnel with Aptitude as a Fighter has over 100% HP growth. I saw him get a +2 once. If I spot any other oddities, I'll post them.

[Wheels]

Here, something I whipped together quickly for an easy way of tracking level ups by level

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At9BmR7ODk48dEhOdG52S1JjUTlPVm93YWt0aDRBZWc&usp=sharing

First gen Base class level up chart, basically, you just plug in the numbers when you level up, I've put in base stats for Normal Mode (I'm assuming the base stats on Serenes are correct). Hit File -> Make a Copy to basically copy it so edits don't clash with one another, and it's just something who wants to use it can do so XD

[PKL]

I got a few from a draft I finished yesterday. Hope it helps even though a lot of resources were given to Cordelia...

Cordelia

Pegasus Knight Level 17/Dark Flier 15/Falcoknight 13.81

73HP Seraph Robex2, Naga Tear

35Str Energy Drop, Naga Tear

15Mag Naga Tear

40Skl Naga Tear

37Spd Naga Tear

38Lck Naga Tear, Godess Icon

33Def Dracoshield, Naga Tear

27Res Talisman, Naga Tear

Lucina

Lord 19/Great Lord 13

54HP

26Str

12Mag

33Skl

37Spd

27Lck

22Def

15Res

Parent: Avatar Female with +spd - str

Her bases were:

33HP 14Str 7Mag 17Skl 19Spd 16Lck 10Def 7Res

Ricken Level 17 Mage/Level 20 Sage/Level 1 Sage

54HP

14Str

31Mag

24Skl

25Spd

37Lck

20Def

18Res

Maribelle Level 20 Troubadour/7 Valkyrie

28HP

1Str

25Mag

25Skl

18Spd

26Lck

8Def

25Res

Marcia (Avatar +spd -str) Level 20 Tactician/10 Pegasus Knight/20 Dark Flier

63HP

31Str

33Mag Spirit Dust

38Skl

46Spd

32Lck

20Def Dracoshield <- I suspect I got really unlucky with this stat

24Res Talisman

Stahl Level 16 Cavalier/1 Paladin

42HP

22Str

1Mag

13Skl

14Spd

15Lck

16Def

12Res

Pretty sure he got screwed.

Edited February 11, 2013 by CordeliaxFrederick

[nocturnal YL]

Just reclassed two units. Will update this post once they max something or reach level 16 (when I'll be reclassing them again). Will also put new units here once they are reclassed.

[JP version, Lunatic]

Avatar (F) (+Spd -Str)

[spoiler=Dark Flier, Valkyrie Stats]Dark Flier (Invisible level 50) <Armsthrift, Avoid+10, Veteran, Paragon, Limit Breaker>

Level 01 / HP 63 / Str 32 / Mag 40 / Skl 40 / Spd 46 / Luk 42 / Def 33 / Res 38

Level 02 / HP 64 / Str 32 / Mag 41 / Skl 40 / Spd 46 / Luk 43 / Def 33 / Res 38

Level 03 / HP 65 / Str 32 / Mag 41 / Skl 40 / Spd 46 / Luk 44 / Def 33 / Res 39

Level 04 / HP 66 / Str 32 / Mag 41 / Skl 40 / Spd 46 / Luk 44 / Def 33 / Res 40

Level 05 / HP 67 / Str 33 / Mag 41 / Skl 41 / Spd 47 / Luk 44 / Def 34 / Res 40

Level 06 / HP 68 / Str 34 / Mag 41 / Skl 42 / Spd 47 / Luk 44 / Def 34 / Res 40

Level 07 / HP 68 / Str 35 / Mag 41 / Skl 43 / Spd 48 / Luk 44 / Def 34 / Res 40

Level 08 / HP 69 / Str 35 / Mag 42 / Skl 43 / Spd 49 / Luk 45 / Def 35 / Res 40

Level 09 / HP 70 / Str 35 / Mag 43 / Skl 43 / Spd 49 / Luk 46 / Def 36 / Res 40

Level 10 / HP 71 / Str 35 / Mag 43 / Skl 43 / Spd 50 / Luk 46 / Def 36 / Res 40

Level 11 / HP 72 / Str 36 / Mag 43 / Skl 44 / Spd 51 / Luk 47 / Def 36 / Res 40

Level 12 / HP 72 / Str 36 / Mag 44 / Skl 45 / Spd 52 / Luk 47 / Def 37 / Res 40

Level 13 / HP 72 / Str 37 / Mag 45 / Skl 45 / Spd 53 / Luk 47 / Def 37 / Res 41

Level 14 / HP 73 / Str 37 / Mag 45 / Skl 45 / Spd 54 / Luk 48 / Def 37 / Res 41

Level 15 / HP 74 / Str 38 / Mag 46 / Skl 45 / Spd 55 / Luk 48 / Def 37 / Res 42

Level 16 / HP 75 / Str 38 / Mag 47 / Skl 45 / Spd 56 / Luk 49 / Def 37 / Res 42

Level 17 / HP 76 / Str 39 / Mag 47 / Skl 45 / Spd 56 / Luk 50 / Def 38 / Res 42

Level 18 / HP 77 / Str 40 / Mag 48 / Skl 46 / Spd 56 / Luk 51 / Def 38 / Res 42

Level 19 / HP 78 / Str 40 / Mag 49 / Skl 47 / Spd 56 / Luk 52 / Def 39 / Res 42

Level 20 / HP 79 / Str 40 / Mag 50 / Skl 48 / Spd 56 / Luk 52 / Def 40 / Res 42

Valkyrie (Invisible level 50) <Armsthrift, Avoid+10, Veteran, Paragon, Limit Breaker>

Level 01 / HP 79 / Str 35 / Mag 49 / Skl 44 / Spd 54 / Luk 52 / Def 38 / Res 41

Level 02 / HP 79 / Str 35 / Mag 49 / Skl 45 / Spd 54 / Luk 53 / Def 38 / Res 41

Level 03 / HP 80 / Str 35 / Mag 49 / Skl 46 / Spd 55 / Luk 54 / Def 38 / Res 42

Level 04 / HP 80 / Str 35 / Mag 49 / Skl 46 / Spd 56 / Luk 55 / Def 39 / Res 42

Level 05 / HP 80 / Str 35 / Mag 50 / Skl 47 / Spd 56 / Luk 55 / Def 39 / Res 43

Level 06 / HP 80 / Str 35 / Mag 50 / Skl 48 / Spd 57 / Luk 55 / Def 39 / Res 43

Level 07 / HP 80 / Str 36 / Mag 50 / Skl 49 / Spd 57 / Luk 56 / Def 39 / Res 43

Level 08 / HP 80 / Str 36 / Mag 51 / Skl 49 / Spd 57 / Luk 56 / Def 39 / Res 44

*Stat tracking for Avatar stops here as I will manipulate subsequent level ups*

Noire (Father: Donnel)

[spoiler=Great Knight, Dark Rider Stats]Great Knight (Invisible level 20) <Armsthrift, Pavise (Luna since Lv 5), Counter, Paragon, Limit Breaker>

Level 01 / HP 70 / Str 45 / Mag 33 / Skl 38 / Spd 38 / Luk 41 / Def 48 / Res 30

Level 02 / HP 71 / Str 45 / Mag 33 / Skl 38 / Spd 38 / Luk 41 / Def 49 / Res 31

Level 03 / HP 72 / Str 46 / Mag 33 / Skl 38 / Spd 39 / Luk 42 / Def 50 / Res 31

Level 04 / HP 73 / Str 46 / Mag 33 / Skl 39 / Spd 40 / Luk 43 / Def 50 / Res 32

Level 05 / HP 74 / Str 47 / Mag 33 / Skl 39 / Spd 40 / Luk 43 / Def 51 / Res 32

Level 06 / HP 75 / Str 48 / Mag 33 / Skl 40 / Spd 40 / Luk 44 / Def 51 / Res 32

Level 07 / HP 76 / Str 48 / Mag 33 / Skl 41 / Spd 41 / Luk 45 / Def 52 / Res 32

Level 08 / HP 77 / Str 49 / Mag 33 / Skl 42 / Spd 42 / Luk 46 / Def 53 / Res 33 <-- Perfect level up!

Level 09 / HP 78 / Str 50 / Mag 33 / Skl 42 / Spd 42 / Luk 46 / Def 54 / Res 33

Level 10 / HP 79 / Str 51 / Mag 33 / Skl 42 / Spd 43 / Luk 47 / Def 55 / Res 34

Level 11 / HP 80 / Str 51 / Mag 33 / Skl 43 / Spd 44 / Luk 47 / Def 56 / Res 34

Level 12 / HP 80 / Str 52 / Mag 33 / Skl 43 / Spd 45 / Luk 47 / Def 57 / Res 34

Level 13 / HP 80 / Str 53 / Mag 33 / Skl 43 / Spd 46 / Luk 48 / Def 58 / Res 34

Level 14 / HP 80 / Str 54 / Mag 33 / Skl 43 / Spd 47 / Luk 48 / Def 58 / Res 35

Level 15 / HP 80 / Str 55 / Mag 33 / Skl 43 / Spd 48 / Luk 48 / Def 58 / Res 35

Level 16 / HP 80 / Str 56 / Mag 33 / Skl 43 / Spd 48 / Luk 49 / Def 59 / Res 35

Dark Rider (Invisible level 37) <Armsthrift, Luna, Counter, Paragon, Limit Breaker>

Level 01 / HP 73 / Str 48 / Mag 40 / Skl 45 / Spd 53 / Luk 49 / Def 45 / Res 43

Level 02 / HP 74 / Str 48 / Mag 41 / Skl 46 / Spd 53 / Luk 50 / Def 45 / Res 44

Level 03 / HP 75 / Str 48 / Mag 42 / Skl 46 / Spd 53 / Luk 50 / Def 45 / Res 44

Level 04 / HP 76 / Str 48 / Mag 42 / Skl 47 / Spd 53 / Luk 51 / Def 45 / Res 44

Level 05 / HP 76 / Str 48 / Mag 42 / Skl 48 / Spd 53 / Luk 52 / Def 45 / Res 45

Level 06 / HP 76 / Str 48 / Mag 42 / Skl 49 / Spd 53 / Luk 53 / Def 45 / Res 46

Level 07 / HP 76 / Str 48 / Mag 42 / Skl 50 / Spd 53 / Luk 53 / Def 45 / Res 47

Level 08 / HP 77 / Str 48 / Mag 42 / Skl 50 / Spd 53 / Luk 53 / Def 45 / Res 48

Level 09 / HP 78 / Str 48 / Mag 43 / Skl 50 / Spd 53 / Luk 53 / Def 45 / Res 49

Level 10 / HP 79 / Str 48 / Mag 44 / Skl 50 / Spd 53 / Luk 54 / Def 45 / Res 49

Level 11 / HP 80 / Str 48 / Mag 44 / Skl 50 / Spd 53 / Luk 55 / Def 45 / Res 49

*Stat tracking for Noire stops here as I will manipulate subsequent level ups*

Lucina (Mother: Sumia)

[spoiler=Great Knight, War Cleric Stats]Great Knight (Invisible level 50) <Discipline (Luna since Lv 11), Galeforce, Aether, Paragon, Limit Breaker>

Level 01 / HP 80 / Str 44 / Mag 24 / Skl 47 / Spd 50 / Luk 54 / Def 44 / Res 30

Level 02 / HP 80 / Str 45 / Mag 24 / Skl 48 / Spd 51 / Luk 55 / Def 44 / Res 30

Level 03 / HP 80 / Str 45 / Mag 24 / Skl 48 / Spd 52 / Luk 56 / Def 44 / Res 31

Level 04 / HP 80 / Str 46 / Mag 25 / Skl 48 / Spd 52 / Luk 57 / Def 44 / Res 31

Level 05 / HP 80 / Str 47 / Mag 25 / Skl 48 / Spd 52 / Luk 57 / Def 45 / Res 31

Level 06 / HP 80 / Str 48 / Mag 26 / Skl 48 / Spd 52 / Luk 57 / Def 46 / Res 31

Level 07 / HP 80 / Str 49 / Mag 26 / Skl 48 / Spd 52 / Luk 57 / Def 47 / Res 31

Level 08 / HP 80 / Str 49 / Mag 27 / Skl 48 / Spd 52 / Luk 57 / Def 47 / Res 32

Level 09 / HP 80 / Str 50 / Mag 27 / Skl 48 / Spd 52 / Luk 57 / Def 48 / Res 32

Level 10 / HP 80 / Str 51 / Mag 27 / Skl 48 / Spd 52 / Luk 57 / Def 49 / Res 32

Level 11 / HP 80 / Str 52 / Mag 27 / Skl 48 / Spd 52 / Luk 57 / Def 50 / Res 32

Level 12 / HP 80 / Str 52 / Mag 27 / Skl 48 / Spd 52 / Luk 57 / Def 50 / Res 32 <-- Empty level up...

Level 13 / HP 80 / Str 53 / Mag 27 / Skl 48 / Spd 52 / Luk 57 / Def 51 / Res 32

Level 14 / HP 80 / Str 54 / Mag 27 / Skl 48 / Spd 52 / Luk 57 / Def 52 / Res 32

Level 15 / HP 80 / Str 55 / Mag 27 / Skl 48 / Spd 52 / Luk 57 / Def 53 / Res 32

War Cleric (Invisible level 50) <Luna, Galeforce, Aether, Paragon, Limit Breaker>

Level 01 / HP 80 / Str 49 / Mag 32 / Skl 46 / Spd 53 / Luk 57 / Def 45 / Res 37

Level 02 / HP 80 / Str 50 / Mag 32 / Skl 47 / Spd 53 / Luk 57 / Def 46 / Res 37

Level 03 / HP 80 / Str 50 / Mag 32 / Skl 47 / Spd 54 / Luk 57 / Def 46 / Res 37

Level 04 / HP 80 / Str 50 / Mag 33 / Skl 47 / Spd 55 / Luk 57 / Def 46 / Res 38

Level 05 / HP 80 / Str 50 / Mag 34 / Skl 48 / Spd 56 / Luk 57 / Def 46 / Res 39

Lissa

[spoiler=Sage Stats]Sage (Invisible level 42) <Rally Speed, Galeforce, Demoiselle, Paragon, Limit Breaker>

Level 01 / HP 80 / Str 27 / Mag 49 / Skl 46 / Spd 49 / Luk 57 / Def 22 / Res 51

Level 02 / HP 80 / Str 27 / Mag 50 / Skl 47 / Spd 49 / Luk 57 / Def 22 / Res 51

Level 03 / HP 80 / Str 27 / Mag 51 / Skl 47 / Spd 49 / Luk 57 / Def 22 / Res 51

Level 04 / HP 80 / Str 27 / Mag 51 / Skl 48 / Spd 50 / Luk 57 / Def 22 / Res 51 *reset*

Level 04 / HP 80 / Str 28 / Mag 52 / Skl 47 / Spd 50 / Luk 57 / Def 23 / Res 51

Level 05 / HP 80 / Str 29 / Mag 52 / Skl 47 / Spd 50 / Luk 57 / Def 23 / Res 51

Level 06 / HP 80 / Str 29 / Mag 52 / Skl 48 / Spd 50 / Luk 57 / Def 24 / Res 51

Mariabelle

[spoiler=Valkyrie Stats]Valkyrie (Invisible level 42) <Rally Speed, Galeforce, Lifetaker, Paragon, Limit Breaker>

Level 01 / HP 74 / Str 28 / Mag 44 / Skl 42 / Spd 49 / Luk 58 / Def 17 / Res 48

Level 02 / HP 75 / Str 28 / Mag 45 / Skl 43 / Spd 50 / Luk 58 / Def 17 / Res 49

Level 03 / HP 76 / Str 28 / Mag 46 / Skl 43 / Spd 50 / Luk 58 / Def 17 / Res 50

Level 04 / HP 77 / Str 28 / Mag 47 / Skl 44 / Spd 50 / Luk 58 / Def 18 / Res 51 *reset*

Level 04 / HP 77 / Str 28 / Mag 47 / Skl 44 / Spd 51 / Luk 58 / Def 18 / Res 51

Level 05 / HP 78 / Str 29 / Mag 47 / Skl 45 / Spd 51 / Luk 58 / Def 18 / Res 52

Level 06 / HP 79 / Str 29 / Mag 48 / Skl 46 / Spd 52 / Luk 58 / Def 18 / Res 52

Chrom

[spoiler=Bow Knight Stats]Bow Knight (Invisible level 25) <Dual Strike+, Luna, Charm, Skill+2, Prescience>

Level 01 / HP 78 / Str 40 / Mag 11 / Skl 39 / Spd 38 / Luk 42 / Def 34 / Res 12

Level 02 / HP 79 / Str 40 / Mag 11 / Skl 39 / Spd 39 / Luk 43 / Def 34 / Res 13

Level 03 / HP 80 / Str 41 / Mag 11 / Skl 40 / Spd 40 / Luk 43 / Def 34 / Res 14

Level 04 / HP 80 / Str 41 / Mag 11 / Skl 40 / Spd 40 / Luk 43 / Def 34 / Res 14 <-- Empty level up...

Bow Knight (Invisible level 25) <Dual Strike+, Luna, Charm, Prescience, Limit Breaker>

Level 04 / HP 80 / Str 41 / Mag 11 / Skl 40 / Spd 40 / Luk 43 / Def 34 / Res 14

Level 05 / HP 80 / Str 41 / Mag 11 / Skl 41 / Spd 40 / Luk 44 / Def 34 / Res 15

Level 06 / HP 80 / Str 42 / Mag 11 / Skl 42 / Spd 41 / Luk 45 / Def 34 / Res 15

Level 07 / HP 80 / Str 43 / Mag 11 / Skl 43 / Spd 42 / Luk 46 / Def 35 / Res 15

Sully

[spoiler=Griffon Rider Stats]Griffon Rider (Invisible level 27) <Avoid+10, Discipline, Astra, Paragon, Limit Breaker>

Level 01 / HP 75 / Str 35 / Mag 11 / Skl 38 / Spd 40 / Luk 40 / Def 31 / Res 22

Level 02 / HP 76 / Str 36 / Mag 11 / Skl 39 / Spd 40 / Luk 41 / Def 31 / Res 22

Level 03 / HP 77 / Str 36 / Mag 11 / Skl 40 / Spd 40 / Luk 42 / Def 32 / Res 22

Level 04 / HP 78 / Str 36 / Mag 11 / Skl 41 / Spd 41 / Luk 42 / Def 32 / Res 23

Level 05 / HP 79 / Str 37 / Mag 11 / Skl 41 / Spd 41 / Luk 43 / Def 32 / Res 23

Level 06 / HP 80 / Str 37 / Mag 12 / Skl 42 / Spd 42 / Luk 44 / Def 32 / Res 24

Level 07 / HP 80 / Str 37 / Mag 12 / Skl 42 / Spd 42 / Luk 44 / Def 32 / Res 24 <-- Empty level up...

Stahl

[spoiler=Bow Knight Stats]Bow Knight (Invisible level 25) <Avoid+10, Discipline, Astra, Paragon, Limit Breaker>

Level 01 / HP 80 / Str 41 / Mag 6 / Skl 37 / Spd 38 / Luk 28 / Def 34 / Res 15

Level 02 / HP 80 / Str 41 / Mag 6 / Skl 38 / Spd 39 / Luk 29 / Def 35 / Res 15

Level 03 / HP 80 / Str 42 / Mag 6 / Skl 38 / Spd 40 / Luk 29 / Def 36 / Res 15

Level 04 / HP 80 / Str 43 / Mag 6 / Skl 38 / Spd 41 / Luk 30 / Def 37 / Res 15

Level 05 / HP 80 / Str 44 / Mag 6 / Skl 39 / Spd 41 / Luk 30 / Def 37 / Res 15

Level 06 / HP 80 / Str 44 / Mag 6 / Skl 39 / Spd 42 / Luk 31 / Def 38 / Res 15

Sumia (might as well include units that I don't have at level 1)

[spoiler=Falcon Knight Stats]Falcon Knight (Invisible level 25) <Speed+2, Refresh, Luna, Dual Grard+, Limit Breaker>

Level 06 / HP 74 / Str 35 / Mag 25 / Skl 43 / Spd 46 / Luk 25 / Def 28 / Res 35

Level 07 / HP 75 / Str 35 / Mag 25 / Skl 44 / Spd 47 / Luk 26 / Def 28 / Res 35

Level 08 / HP 76 / Str 35 / Mag 25 / Skl 44 / Spd 48 / Luk 26 / Def 28 / Res 36

Level 09 / HP 77 / Str 35 / Mag 26 / Skl 45 / Spd 48 / Luk 26 / Def 28 / Res 36

Level 10 / HP 78 / Str 36 / Mag 27 / Skl 46 / Spd 49 / Luk 27 / Def 28 / Res 36

Cordelia

[spoiler=Falcon Knight Stats]Falcon Knight (Invisible level 50) <Galeforce, Tomebreaker, Armsthrift, Paragon, Limit Breaker>

Level 09 / HP 80 / Str 47 / Mag 23 / Skl 27 / Spd 56 / Luk 46 / Def 42 / Res 41

Level 10 / HP 80 / Str 47 / Mag 24 / Skl 28 / Spd 56 / Luk 47 / Def 43 / Res 41

Level 11 / HP 80 / Str 47 / Mag 24 / Skl 28 / Spd 56 / Luk 47 / Def 43 / Res 42

Level 12 / HP 80 / Str 47 / Mag 25 / Skl 29 / Spd 56 / Luk 47 / Def 43 / Res 42

Level 13 / HP 80 / Str 47 / Mag 26 / Skl 30 / Spd 56 / Luk 48 / Def 43 / Res 43

Level 14 / HP 80 / Str 47 / Mag 26 / Skl 31 / Spd 56 / Luk 49 / Def 43 / Res 43

Nowi

[spoiler=Griffon Rider Stats]Griffon Rider (Invisible level 29) <Focus, Tantivy, Lifesteal, Odd Rhythm, Limit Breaker>

Level 01 / HP 80 / Str 47 / Mag 27 / Skl 46 / Spd 44 / Luk 48 / Def 46 / Res 36

Level 02 / HP 80 / Str 47 / Mag 27 / Skl 46 / Spd 45 / Luk 48 / Def 46 / Res 37

Level 03 / HP 80 / Str 48 / Mag 28 / Skl 46 / Spd 46 / Luk 49 / Def 47 / Res 37

Level 04 / HP 80 / Str 48 / Mag 29 / Skl 47 / Spd 46 / Luk 49 / Def 48 / Res 37

NOTE - Updates has ended. I shall manipulate further level ups, therefore I will no longer contribute to this project.

Edited March 6, 2013 by nocturnal YL

[Lord Raven]

*snip*

You are legitimately terrible* at reading directions. We are trying to figure out their growths in certain classes, not whatever you're trying to do. Nor can we safely say that two classes have the same growths.

*If anyone thinks this is uncalled for, I can think of two examples easily about why this is true.

Edited February 11, 2013 by eCut
Removing vulgarity.

[PKL]

You are legitimately fucking terrible* at reading directions. We are trying to figure out their growths in certain classes, not whatever you're trying to do. Nor can we safely say that two classes have the same growths.

*If anyone thinks this is uncalled for, I can think of two examples easily about why this is true.

Look, I just wanted to help with the only thing I have. A bit of data from late in the game is better than nothing. Now go away and never reply to any of my posts again. There's a reaosn I have you on ignore.

[Lord Raven]

Misinformation is worse than some information. I hope people grasp that.

[zahlman]

Since the growths on the site have been proven inaccurate to some degree

Proven? Really? How?

With a large enough sample size, we should hopefully be able to determine character growths with a high confidence interval.

How big of a sample size do you figure you'll need? You do actually know how to do the math involved and report results correctly, yes?

I mean, the two of you sound pretty legitimate, but the viewpoint you're starting out with makes me kind of skeptical. Suspicion of inaccuracy is one thing, but your claims seem too strong.

I mean, SF's numbers are sourced. Do you really think the original sources just made stuff up based on... what, exactly? The same sort of experiment you propose to do now?

You are legitimately terrible* at reading directions. We are trying to figure out their growths in certain classes, not whatever you're trying to do.

Wow, one line item was missed (stats at promo time) and you're this nasty after a mod edit.

Wow.

[Othin]

Without promo stats, the data is worthless because there's no way to plug it into the math.

The proof was characters getting +2 stat-ups when they shouldn't possibly have been able to according to the existing growths.

[Lord Raven]

.I mean, SF's numbers are sourced. Do you really think the original sources just made stuff up based on... what, exactly? The same sort of experiment you propose to do now?

The growths are based on our own interpretation of a histogram remember. These guides have been wrong before if you remember radiant dawn growths waaaaay back in 2006.

Granted many of these growths are probably not off. But a very large sample size will converge to the actual probability. It's very ambitious... but it's better than nothing.

Wow, one line item was missed (stats at promo time) and you're this nasty after a mod edit.

Wow.

The post I read literally just listed stats. There are many disclaimers and stuff that literally post what is expected, and it is a major one too. Don't question how I said it. it is fairly called for at this point considering many other instances of this particular person poorly following directions. But that is not for here nor there.