Randoman Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) Welcome to the Official SSB4 Newcomer Bet Thread!! In this thread we list characters that we think are likely to be in Super Smash Bros. 4, stick them on our betting lists, and see just how accurate our newcomer lists are and see who's the most accurate in the end!! The official rules are as follows: - we guess newcomers only and we don't guess character cuts - Melee veterans that were cut from Brawl do not count as newcomers and will not be accounted for, except for Mewtwo's new form as either a standalone character or a Sheik/Zero Suit Samus type transformation - Everyone starts at 100 Points - A -5 Penalty for each new character revealed for late joiners of the game will be implemented - The only placeholder guess that is allowed currently is a 6th Generation Pokemon, with other placeholder slots being allowed as more games from existing Smash Bros. series are announced/new series that are likely to have playable characters in Smash Bros are announced. Swapping/adding placeholder guesses that this rule applies to does not count towards the swapping/adding guess limit - Every correctly guessed newcomer is +10 points. - Every newcomer that is guessed but isn't in the final roster is -10 points - Exceptions to the above 2 rules include: -Third party characters, who are +20 if correctly guessed and -20 if incorrectly guessed -Specific characters that were swapped from a placeholder guess (Eg: changing 6th Gen Pokemon slot to Mewtwo's new form) or characters with a very recent debut in a game (new characters from games that are announced from 2013 and onward), who are +20 if guessed correctly and -10 if incorrectly guessed -placeholder guesses (Eg: 6th Gen Pokemon, new forms that debut in Gen 6 for existing Pokemon count), which are +2 if correctly guessed and -10 if incorrectly guessed -Pokemon Trainer type newcomers (people that are able to swap between three Pokemon), who are +5 for the right elemental order (eg: correctly guessing fire as base form starter, grass as intermediate form starter, and water as final form starter), +10 for the right Pokemon Generation, and +2 for correctly guessing there's another Pokemon trainer newcomer and neither of the above two are right. -10 if there aren't any Pokemon Trainer type newcomers whatsoever. - Every newcomer that does show up that you didn't guess is -5 - Swapping/adding/removing guesses is unlimited before the first SSB4 newcomer reveal (which is likely on June 11). After that, only two guess swaps/additions/removals (meaning you can only do those three things twice) are allowed, unless a new game from a Nintendo franchise gets announced (see rule 5), in that case you're allowed one free guess addition/swap for that game franchise - Be sure to edit in any guess switches/additions/swaps into your original predictions list and make a new post saying what your changes are. If you only do the latter without the former, I'll simply just calculate the scores based on what's in your first posted list in the thread, without accounting for the changes. - Guesses will be closed 1 month before SSB4 gets released in the country it first gets released in. However, if there are any leaks of a full roster after the demo stations are available and they start showing up on many prominent sites, bets will be closed then. So the general idea for this betting game is to be as accurate as possible, since guessed newcomers that don't make it in as well as newcomers that make it in that you didn't guess will be counted against you. Remember, you're free to change your bets as much as you want before the first SSB4 newcomers are revealed. Rules may be subject to change in the future, but we'll try to implement changes in a fair way so they won't put anyone at an unfair advantage/disadvantage. Anyways my bets are as follows: Takamaru Chorus MenShulk Pac Man Little MacChrom(6th Gen Pokemon) MiiMega Man Palutena Shulk Edited July 12, 2014 by Randoman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive Account404 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) Updated bets: Chrom Lucina Dark Pit Ghirahim Little Mac Mii Edited June 14, 2013 by Silver Pegasus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vashiane Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) My bets are: Chrom Rosalina Pac-Man N Animal Crossing Kids Skyward Sword's Link & Zelda Little Mac Tetra/Toon Zelda LTTP! Younger Link Edited June 1, 2013 by Vashiane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stewart Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) Bets? Takamaru Palutena Little Mac Ridley Edited May 28, 2013 by shinpichu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randoman Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 Mewtwo Are you guessing it'll be classic Gen 1 Mewtwo with its new Gen 6 forms not implemented in its moves whatsoever (having its new forms implemented in taunts only doesn't count) or are you guessing Mewtwo with its Gen 6 forms partially/fully implemented in its moveset? If it's the former, it doesn't count as a newcomer and you don't need to put it on your list (all Melee characters that were cut in Brawl aren't considered newcomers for this thread, unless they have new transformations implemented). If it's the latter, you should probably put "with Gen 6 Forms implemented" beside Mewtwo in parentheses or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stewart Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Are you guessing it'll be classic Gen 1 Mewtwo with its new Gen 6 forms not implemented in its moves whatsoever (having its new forms implemented in taunts only doesn't count) or are you guessing Mewtwo with its Gen 6 forms partially/fully implemented in its moveset? If it's the former, it doesn't count as a newcomer and you don't need to put it on your list (all Melee characters that were cut in Brawl aren't considered newcomers for this thread, unless they have new transformations implemented). If it's the latter, you should probably put "with Gen 6 Forms implemented" beside Mewtwo in parentheses or something. Oh, I was thinking something closer to the first. Different sites have different criteria for newcomers I guess. So if it doesn't count, then I'll remove the bet(I'm still betting on him returning in some form though). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randoman Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 Come to think of it, I think Mewtwo's new forms as a standalone character or a Sheik/ZSS transformation should be the only way we should count Mewtwo as a new character. I mean, by my former rules, Bowser would be a newcomer for having a Giga Bowser transformation for his final smash. I'll change the rules in the opening post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Betting huh... well, mine are: Chrom Takamaru Zoroark Gen V Pokémon Trainer using Oshawott, Servine, and Emboar King K. Rool Isaac Mike Jones Magnus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnor97 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) Chrom6th Gen PokemonGen 3 Pokemon Trainer (Sceptile, Combusken, Mudkip)GhirahimMega Man (I'm assuming that a guess for Mega Man counts no matter what version of him, right? Like between Classic and X?)TakamaruRidleyShadow the Hedgehog Pac-Man Palutena (completely forgot to add her back in April) Edited June 11, 2014 by Konnor97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randoman Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 Mega Man (I'm assuming that a guess for Mega Man counts no matter what version of him, right? Like between Classic and X?) Yep, the form or incarnation doesn't count, as long as it's actually Mega Man and not Proto Man or Zero. Even if it's Bad Box Art Mega Man, it'll count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Emblem Fan Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) I'll say... Chrom (de-confirmed) Lyn (de-confirmed) Pac-Man Shulk (both confirmed) Takamaru (de-confirmed) Palutena (confirmed) Toon Zelda/Tetra Little Mac (confirmed) King K. Rool (6th Gen Pokemon) (confirmed) Isaac EDIT: All I've done is add a "(confirmed)" or "(de-confirmed)" next to the corresponding character(s), no bet changes. Edited August 31, 2014 by Fire Emblem Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) Takamaru Lucina (6th Gen Pokemon) 6th Gen trainer Waluigi Megaman Ridley Isaac Magnus Palutena Ghirahim Edited April 12, 2014 by Knight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruarik Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Hmmm... Alright. Chrom Isaac King K. Rool Little Mac Megaman Palutena Paper Mario Ridley Robin Shulk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Poet Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Lucina Chrom Ghirahim Isaac Mega Man A 5th gen Pokemon/trainer (Victini if I had to put a name to it) A 6th gen Pokemon/trainer (likewise, the new Mewtwo form) Shulk Toon Zelda/Tetra Zael (protagonist of The Last Story, a recently ported JRPG) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatgramcracker Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 My bets are... Ready for it? ARE YOU READY!? LET'S SEE DEM BETS!!! Chrom Isaac (6th gen pocket monster) Wall luigi Tails Harmoknight Mii So yeah... I will probably lose but if I do win then I get the best IN YOUR FACE points out of everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinRPGamer Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 (edited) Okay lets see how bad my predictions become... Takemaru: Shulk: Little Mac Chrom: Kyrastal: Palutena: Waluigi: King K. Rool: Pokemon trainer of Gen 2 or above: Lyndis: Ridley: Mii: Lloyd Irving Black Shadow 6th Gen pokemon Edited July 12, 2013 by ShinRPGamer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Megaman Black Shadow Tingle Professor Layton and Luke Magikarp Leisure Suit Larry Ardan Cranky Kong Biraku Sure, why not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randoman Posted June 1, 2013 Author Share Posted June 1, 2013 Lucina (is it possible to say her as DLC costume for marth but with her voice and all that?) Characters only count as newcomers if they're stand alone characters or a Sheik/Zero Suit Samus type transformation. We aren't counting any kind of costumes as newcomers, so even if Lucina did make it in as a DLC costume with an altered voice, she still wouldn't count for this betting game's purposes, so you don't need to add her to your newcomer list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ercdouken Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 (edited) I'll make some bets Little Mac Takamaru King K. Rool Chrom Lucina Anna Tharja Samurai Goroh Lip Mach Rider Muddy Mole Palutena Tingle Travis Touchdown Edited June 20, 2013 by Dark Legend Vampire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ema Skye Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 (edited) My bets: Choir Kids (Rhythm Heaven) Little Mac Palutena King K. Rool Bowser Jr. Shulk Pac-Man Chrom Mewtwo's new forme Mii Dixie Kong Edited April 12, 2014 by Harmonie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book Bro Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 (edited) 3DS E3 notification got me excited! Even though I don't have a Wii U and the Wii U version will be superior Takamaru K Rool Newtwo Ghirahim Tharja Palutena Ridley Megaman Pac Man KK Slider Little Mac Lucina Edit: Switched KK for Little Mac and added Lucina. Edited June 15, 2013 by Owain Dark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsbane Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 (edited) Guess I'll give this a try: Shulk Chrom King K Rool Dixie Kong Takamaru Little Mac Palutena Using up my two additions: Mii Pac-Man Edited June 12, 2013 by Devilsbane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 (edited) Chrom Bowser. Jr. Ghirahim Megaman That's all for me. Edited June 10, 2013 by Zeem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Mega Man, fucking called it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Same here! Also, I wasn't expecting the player Villager from Animal Crossing. It was a pretty nice surprise. Also, Balloon Fight in it just made my day. X) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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