Canto Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I could give another even bigger history lesson about this but alas this isn't the time or place. I'd be interested in hearing it, at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shigen Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 this battle reminds me of "red cliffs" in the first sight too. btw im fun of all about "romance of three kingdom " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Well, if I were in the MU position, i'd do the same thing and wouldn't even question my action. They decided to invade my country at their own risk. Call me inhumane if you want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Interestingly the aforementioned Micaiah's tactics is also reminescent of one of Zhuge Liang's, although only really in the fictionalised accounts of Romance of the Three Kingdoms. In it, during Zhuge Liang's southern expedition, because the enemy soldiers wore oil-soaked armor that were impenetrable to weaponry of the time, he baited them through a valley then threw rocks and flames down it killing basically everyone. He did, afterwards, comment on how awful was it himself (the exact extent of it is hard for me to describe since I can't accurately in English describe sentiments that are culturally Chinese), but it was something. But it was lesser known, presumably because it's probably not historically accurate and only in the novel. Still found it interesting how FE story uses tactics reminescent to those in RoTK or the three kingdoms era itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 woohoo Chinese history/literature class time! *high fives Jedi and Lumi* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Bonnigan Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 To be fair, how different is setting the ship on fire to, say casting a fir tome on our enemies? Hell, Bolganone literally opens up a hole to the mantle and coats your enemy in magma. At least in that mission, most enemy soldiers would succumb suffocation and smoke inhalation long before the flames reach reach them. Half the reason I give Henry a Bolganone or Arcfire tome in addition to his Nosferatus is that I imagine he'd enjoy watching his victim writhe in pain as his/her skin burns off or limbs dissolve from the intense heat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifer Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) Why is people calling this an inhumane tactic in the Medieval age? Chemical warfare was banned since WWII. before that it was perfectly acceptable to pour flaming hot oil onto the onrushing attackers, you can make this connection with Avatar and his boat burning too. So it is acceptable because of the time and place within the FE: Awakening setting and as such would not bother Chrom's or the Avatar's mind. And also about the boats... well it was not Chrom's boats originally right? It would have weakened the Plegian navy and there is no need for Plegia to have such a strong navy after a war right? Edited October 4, 2013 by sifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWalker Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 To be fair, how different is setting the ship on fire to, say casting a fir tome on our enemies? Hell, Bolganone literally opens up a hole to the mantle and coats your enemy in magma. At least in that mission, most enemy soldiers would succumb suffocation and smoke inhalation long before the flames reach reach them. Half the reason I give Henry a Bolganone or Arcfire tome in addition to his Nosferatus is that I imagine he'd enjoy watching his victim writhe in pain as his/her skin burns off or limbs dissolve from the intense heat. But that's even worse... Like I said, my only real problem with it is how it is called inhumane in FE10 and everyone, including the fandom hates Micaiah for it and yet the fans continue to call her a Mary Sue while Avatar gets off free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blah the Prussian Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 The only thing that bothered me with Macaiah was that she was only trying to buy time. She did not need to use that tactic. Avatar did. Another thing that bothers me about that was that she tried to kill a kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) The only thing that bothered me with Macaiah was that she was only trying to buy time. She did not need to use that tactic. Avatar did. Another thing that bothers me about that was that she tried to kill a kid. ....what heavily outnumbered, can't fight a head-on battle......seems familiar! and I'm not even going to touch the stupid that is the last sentence Edited October 4, 2013 by shadykid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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