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[Jedi]

Nos apparently has 4 uses and takes 40 seconds to respawn

Least you can throw the book, which is surprisingly damaging.

[euklyd]

it's a sad day when running out of spells is more useful than casting them

[Zera]

What're you talking about? If you land Nosferatu, it usually drains 15%, creating a 30% difference. That makes it the best command grab in the whole game. Thunder forces the opponent to approach, but Arcfire stops approaches - the perfect complement. Elwind makes for a great jab combo.

Edited September 20, 2015 by Zera

[Jedi]

If it was actually as easy to land as a grab, I'd agree with you.

[Knife]

What're you talking about? If you land Nosferatu, it usually drains 15%, creating a 30% difference. That makes it the best command grab in the whole game. Thunder forces the opponent to approach, but Arcfire stops approaches - the perfect complement. Elwind makes for a great jab combo.

Most zoners actually make Robin approach...

Nosferatu is actually a terrible command grab, good luck landing it on a good player that doesn't sit in shield...

[Kiseki]

If you land Nosferatu, it usually drains 15%, creating a 30% difference. That makes it the best command grab in the whole game.

You think a 30% difference makes it the best?

I can get much more damage off a single Flame Choke and some follow-ups, which I find much easier to land efficiently than Nosferatu. You're also guaranteed a Suicide K.O. if it lands offstage while people can still escape Nosferatu and revover.

Actually why would anyone use Nosferatu as a Suicide K.O. option.

[Florete]

You think a 30% difference makes it the best?

I can get much more damage off a single Flame Choke and some follow-ups, which I find much easier to land efficiently than Nosferatu. You're also guaranteed a Suicide K.O. if it lands offstage while people can still escape Nosferatu and revover.

Actually why would anyone use Nosferatu as a Suicide K.O. option.

True story: my brother and I wanted to test options out of Nosferatu off stage, and it took a ton of tries for him to actually land it when I was literally trying to make it as easy as possible for him to land it.

[euklyd]

you can suicide flame choke against onstage opponents as well :^)

I don't remember if Robin's books poof after you throw them, but at the very least you'd be able to hit an opponent for 17-18%, which can kill at reasonable percents (~110%? idr)

Throwing books is also much safer than Nos, obviously.

Actually why would anyone use Nosferatu as a Suicide K.O. option.

le epik disrespekt!!!11!!1!!!! xD

[Kiseki]

you can suicide flame choke against onstage opponents as well :^)

I don't remember if Robin's books poof after you throw them, but at the very least you'd be able to hit an opponent for 17-18%, which can kill at reasonable percents (~110%? idr)Throwing books is also much safer than Nos, obviously.

le epik disrespekt!!!11!!1!!!! xD

Well yes, and in most cases the opponent knows it's bound to happen anyways.

Yeah, I'm sure the books poof after one throw.

And lel @ the mental image of seeing a Nosferatu suicide performed in a tourney setting and the crowd's reaction to it.

[euklyd]

I think Nairo did it on accident in a tourney set? I don't remember....

That being said, his opponent survived and he didn't, so.

[Elieson]

Who dies first in a Nosferatuicide, assuming the full thing carries through?

*edit *Ninja'd I think*

Edited September 19, 2015 by Elieson

[Florete]

you can suicide flame choke against onstage opponents as well :^)

I don't remember if Robin's books poof after you throw them, but at the very least you'd be able to hit an opponent for 17-18%, which can kill at reasonable percents (~110%? idr)

Throwing books is also much safer than Nos, obviously.

They'll poof a bit after a bounce. I've seen Nairo Z drop and re-grab them a bunch of times.

And yes, they actually have surprising knockback. I've killed with book throws.

Who dies first in a Nosferatuicide, assuming the full thing carries through?

*edit *Ninja'd I think*

Robin.

[euklyd]

They'll poof a bit after a bounce. I've seen Nairo Z drop and re-grab them a bunch of times.

alright, that's what I suspected

in which case a book is way better than a nosferatu

although, the threat of a nosferatu might be worth it? idk

[Florete]

alright, that's what I suspected

in which case a book is way better than a nosferatu

although, the threat of a nosferatu might be worth it? idk

Hitting with Nosferatu is tough, but it's pretty good if you can. It's hitbox goes lower than most people probably suspect, so you can get shielding opponents from the air if you know what you're doing.

Also, new character announcement!

Construction Ike!

Courtesy of Smashboards.

[Jedi]

Hitting with Nosferatu is tough, but it's pretty good if you can. It's hitbox goes lower than most people probably suspect, so you can get shielding opponents from the air if you know what you're doing.

Also, new character announcement!

Construction Ike!

Courtesy of Smashboards.

All I can think of when I see that is Gurren Lagann lol.

WHEN I FIGHT FOR MY FRIENDS, MY SPIRAL POWER SKYROCKETS!

Edited September 19, 2015 by Jedi

[Tsunami922]

Hitting with Nosferatu is tough, but it's pretty good if you can. It's hitbox goes lower than most people probably suspect, so you can get shielding opponents from the air if you know what you're doing.

Also, new character announcement!

Construction Ike!

Courtesy of Smashboards.

Well, he's not using a sword, I guess? ...But is he a clone?

[Anacybele]

lol, so fake, but where did that idea come from? :P

[Knight]

Probably construction Mario in Mario Maker. Lol, I'd main construction Ike.

[Anacybele]

Ha, yeah, probably. I dunno if I'd try that kind of Ike though. :P

[Jedi]

He builds for his friends.

[Anacybele]

Dang it, Jedi, now you've got me imagining Jason Adkins voicing "I build for my friends" for a victory scene! :P

Edited September 19, 2015 by Anacybele

[Jedi]

Hahaha, sorrrrry

I was just imagining him fighting with it and then the line came to mind.

[Anacybele]

Don't worry, it's an amusing idea. lol

[The Funniest Valentine]

Construction Ike; he'll fix you!

Edited September 20, 2015 by The Funniest Valentine

[Shin]

Construction Ike; he'll fix you!

Don't forget his arch enemy, Wreck it Rolf!