JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Shadow Dragon is terrible, no supports, no characterization (FE12 redeemed that though).. I dunno, I rather take no support convo, but having extra dialogues and stuff that does not ruin the source material, than the WTF that they did with FE12, and the half assed support convo >_> That being said, Reclass is definitely the high point of DSFE, considering most of the complaints are "IT KILLS INDIVIDUALITY!!!" and "THE GAME BECOME BRAINDEAD SIR!". Both of which is, IMHO a pretty retarded complaints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Yeah, about that...Generally speaking, when people say "no supports" they're referring to the conversations. Not the bonuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Generally speaking, when people say "no supports" they're referring to the conversations. Not the bonuses. Maybe not full support conversations, but there's some character-specific ones. Unless that person meant that there's no support conversations between people when they gave supports, the statement is flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaMonkey Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 1. Lorenz- definetely the worst character around imo. Super late join with those bases is just no. How is he much worse than Elice exactly? She joins around the same time as Lorenz, but is still first tier (and as a cleric she has no offense) and has even worse bases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 How is he much worse than Elice exactly? She joins around the same time as Lorenz, but is still first tier (and as a cleric she has no offense) and has even worse bases. At least Elice has A rank staves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 At least Elice has A rank staves. And can insta-promote, AND uses Aum (granted, that thing is a pain to get, and is probably not necessary, but it's her or Maria, realistically speaking; using Caeda/Minerva is iffy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Caeda can use the Aum Staff? >_> <_< Gharnef is a confimed idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 ^ Hey, Caeda is probably harder to capture due to her pegasus and spd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 But Gharnef at base doubled Sheeda Oh wait, Wing Spear. NVM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 (edited) That being said, Reclass is definitely the high point of DSFE, considering most of the complaints are "IT KILLS INDIVIDUALITY!!!" and "THE GAME BECOME BRAINDEAD SIR!". Both of which is, IMHO a pretty retarded complaints FE12 should have not combined male class sets A and B make the girls even more overpowered Edited July 5, 2013 by shadykid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 FE12 should have not combined male class sets A and B make the girls even more overpowered Palla, Catria, Caeda, Minerva, Cecille, and HAMMERNE/Rescuebots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo294 Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Apparently, I forgot to follow this =P. And while I was gone, people had opinions! Hooray! I didn't list guys like Ymir and Horace because they don't exist in my mind(Same with most pre-promotes). IS reasoning: Hey, want to kill off nearly everyone you meet so you can get these guys that are worse any other unit? People like Athena? I'm confused. I think I'm missing something here(Good bases, maybe? In that way I guess Radd is worse). On the topic of confusion, Vyland can't take a hit with low HP and def. All the natural archers are pretty eh, and I don't like Gordin because he is the best and still has bad growths. I suppose that sounds pretty stupid, but on one of my runs he didn't even break into double digits when all of my other units where around the same level. More opinions, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Motendra Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Shadow Dragon is terrible, no supports, no characterization (FE12 redeemed that though).. You forget that Shadow Dragon is a REMAKE Apparently, I forgot to follow this =P. And while I was gone, people had opinions! Hooray! I didn't list guys like Ymir and Horace because they don't exist in my mind(Same with most pre-promotes). IS reasoning: Hey, want to kill off nearly everyone you meet so you can get these guys that are worse any other unit? People like Athena? I'm confused. I think I'm missing something here(Good bases, maybe? In that way I guess Radd is worse). On the topic of confusion, Vyland can't take a hit with low HP and def. All the natural archers are pretty eh, and I don't like Gordin because he is the best and still has bad growths. I suppose that sounds pretty stupid, but on one of my runs he didn't even break into double digits when all of my other units where around the same level. More opinions, anyone? I can agree with you on the extra characters along with Vyland. Caesar and Radd were completely redundant for me since I had Ogma and Navarre. As for Gordin.... yeah, I hate him also but only because I prefer Jeorge who has better proficiency with the bow ( and the fact that I don't really use archers much, unless i actually have to). Is it safe to say that Wolf and Sedgar could possibly be the best units in the game? Then again, I always reclassed them: Wolf being a hero and Sedgar either warrior or general so it might just be my own personal bias talking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottlegnomes Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 You forget that Shadow Dragon is a REMAKE And that justifies it how? FE12 did a perfectly good job of adding all that stuff to a remake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Motendra Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 And that justifies it how? FE12 did a perfectly good job of adding all that stuff to a remake. Yeah, but for reasons unknown, FE 12 was a japan exclusive and Shadow Dragon was meant to introduce the roots of the franchise,since the series' mascot was never featured in a game outside japan while adding the re class feature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1% critted Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I dunno, I rather take no support convo, but having extra dialogues and stuff that does not ruin the source material, than the WTF that they did with FE12, and the half assed support convo >_> That being said, Reclass is definitely the high point of DSFE, considering most of the complaints are "IT KILLS INDIVIDUALITY!!!" and "THE GAME BECOME BRAINDEAD SIR!". Both of which is, IMHO a pretty retarded complaints I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottlegnomes Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Yeah, but for reasons unknown, FE 12 was a japan exclusive and Shadow Dragon was meant to introduce the roots of the franchise,since the series' mascot was never featured in a game outside japan while adding the re class feature And that justifies it how? FE12 did a perfectly good job of adding all that stuff to a remake. Still hasn't answered my question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Motendra Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) Yeah, but for reasons unknown, FE 12 was a japan exclusive and Shadow Dragon was meant to introduce the roots of the franchise,since the series' mascot was never featured in a game outside japan while adding the re class feature I just did and lets not forget this is Shadow Dragon we're talking about. As for FE 12, there's really no way to explain why it has support convos and Shadow Dragon doesn't. Heck, for all we know, the Japanese Shadow Dragon could have them and none of us would know Edited July 20, 2013 by HeroKingMarth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) I just did and lets not forget this is Shadow Dragon we're talking about. As for FE 12, there's really no way to explain why it has support convos and Shadow Dragon doesn't. Heck, for all we know, the Japanese Shadow Dragon could have them and none of us would know without even looking it up I know it doesn't, people would know about it if it were true Also Japan loves FE3 so they put more effort into the more loved game in its remake Edited July 18, 2013 by General Horace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Motendra Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 without even looking it up I know it doesn't, people would know about it if it were true Also Japan loves FE3 so they put more effort into the more loved game in its remake Hmm makes some sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 @ DragonBoner- I quite like the "support convos" in this game. Some of them are legit really heartwarming. Heck, the "support convos" for Etzel made me like the character quite a lot recently when playing through my LTC run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) I'm butthurt because Cain did not have a support with Abel, and his MU support is "loltraining" Or Malliesia supports being..... Well.... Like that. But then again, lol Malliesia And this is before including all of those "insulting" supports that consists of worshipping MU for the sake of boasting the players ego. Fuck them that being said, the whitewings support, and Sheeda x Marth support is pretty cool Edited July 18, 2013 by I have a Dragon Boner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Yeah, there are some pretty bad ones lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 And then there are some pretty hilarious ones. I know you really love Radd, so go get Caesar and Radd's one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Nothing beat Doga who lift ten men with one finger, flies and blow a mass of soldiers with one spear swing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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