Galenforcer Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Both Morgans are terrible. The argument against 3rd Gen Morgans is because apparently "marrying children units seems wrong"! That, and "I'd rather have two Morgans than one mega Morgan". 3rd Gen Morgans at least tie down all the children to marriages, while marrying for two children essentially cheats out a marriage for one poor guy, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Both Morgans are terrible. The argument against 3rd Gen Morgans is because apparently "marrying children units seems wrong"! That, and "I'd rather have two Morgans than one mega Morgan". 3rd Gen Morgans at least tie down all the children to marriages, while marrying for two children essentially cheats out a marriage for one poor guy, ew why male Morgan w/e I'd just dump Laurent, screw him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 I like 3rd Gen Morgans because Cynthia would be an amazing mother and Cynthia!Female Morgan kicks a ton of ass. Also, I can't imagine any of the Gen II characters as my kid. I just find it really weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Kamina Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Both Morgans are terrible. The argument against 3rd Gen Morgans is because apparently "marrying children units seems wrong"! That, and "I'd rather have two Morgans than one mega Morgan". 3rd Gen Morgans at least tie down all the children to marriages, while marrying for two children essentially cheats out a marriage for one poor guy, Or in Morgan(F)'s case one girl will be alone, which is no problem for me because I dislike Kjelle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airship Canon Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Or in Morgan(F)'s case one girl will be alone, which is no problem for me because I dislike Kjelle. ... Marrying 1st locks out an additional first gen guy. Marrying 2nd allows all the second gens to marry. Gameplay wise: Morgan Focus >> Passing around skills that won't be used. It's simple enough to create pairs that have 20 Damage Supports, and unless you've got RK, you can't really make any of the proc skills truly reliable anyways. Better to not waste Morgan's potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Kamina Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 ... Marrying 1st locks out an additional first gen guy. Marrying 2nd allows all the second gens to marry. Gameplay wise: Morgan Focus >> Passing around skills that won't be used. It's simple enough to create pairs that have 20 Damage Supports, and unless you've got RK, you can't really make any of the proc skills truly reliable anyways. Better to not waste Morgan's potential. Yeah, true it does lock another Gen 1 guy from marrying (Not a big deal for me, there are 3 Gen 1 guys I dislike), but personally I prefer two super powered units to one godly unit. To each their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 ... Marrying 1st locks out an additional first gen guy. Marrying 2nd allows all the second gens to marry. Gameplay wise: Morgan Focus >> Passing around skills that won't be used. It's simple enough to create pairs that have 20 Damage Supports, and unless you've got RK, you can't really make any of the proc skills truly reliable anyways. Better to not waste Morgan's potential. Yeah, true it does lock another Gen 1 guy from marrying (Not a big deal for me, there are 3 Gen 1 guys I dislike), but personally I prefer two super powered units to one godly unit. To each their own. Libra's supposed to be celibate... and Kellam's... Kellam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyFireMage Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Lissa dresses like a milk maid and has abominable hair, while Olivia is clingy and sparkles like Edward Cullen. Maribelle > both, but out of those two, I would say Olivia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandragon Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Can we just end this thread and she to each his own? Please? This is getting ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 ... Marrying 1st locks out an additional first gen guy. Marrying 2nd allows all the second gens to marry. Gameplay wise: Morgan Focus >> Passing around skills that won't be used. It's simple enough to create pairs that have 20 Damage Supports, and unless you've got RK, you can't really make any of the proc skills truly reliable anyways. Better to not waste Morgan's potential. S supports are also overrated, especially since most people have one 2nd gen guy/girl they couldn't care less about leaving forever alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airship Canon Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 S supports are also overrated, especially since most people have one 2nd gen guy/girl they couldn't care less about leaving forever alone Having all of the second gen get that +10 Dual Strike, +2 Dual Guard means quite a bit. (Which along with +5 Hit is the difference between A and S) +10 Dual Strike is freaking 20 SKL each, or the entirety of Dual Strike+. You can only rally for half that, and you can only make up a max of 12 of the remaining 20 (As Pair up only applies to leads, although Tonics.) Kids > Parents. Always. Dual Strike matters because it's something that can reasonably be pushed to truly reliable levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Silly poll doesn't include Cherche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Silly poll doesn't include Cherche. true Having all of the second gen get that +10 Dual Strike, +2 Dual Guard means quite a bit. (Which along with +5 Hit is the difference between A and S) +10 Dual Strike is freaking 20 SKL each, or the entirety of Dual Strike+. You can only rally for half that, and you can only make up a max of 12 of the remaining 20 (As Pair up only applies to leads, although Tonics.) Kids > Parents. Always. Dual Strike matters because it's something that can reasonably be pushed to truly reliable levels. that's cool it's also ridiculously overkill, just like Aggressor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 that's cool it's also ridiculously overkill, just like Aggressor Most things are ridiculously overkill in min/max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 (edited) Most things are ridiculously overkill in min/max. exactly why bother, pair up whoever you want because you'll murder regardless Edited July 4, 2013 by shadykid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airship Canon Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 that's coolit's also ridiculously overkill, just like Aggressor Not really, since Dual Strike % at its best (which is rallied, tonic'd, S, etc.) without DSt+ is at ~90% for any practical pair. Guess what 90% still fails. 80% fails TWICE AS MUCH as 90%. Single failed DS can mean the enemy gets their move, which can very well mean you're dead. Any thing lower than hard 80% for anything is no longer "reliable". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 exactly why bother, pair up whoever you want because you'll murder regardless S supports are more overkill. Extremely overkill > overkill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 (edited) Not really, since Dual Strike % at its best (which is rallied, tonic'd, S, etc.) without DSt+ is at ~90% for any practical pair. Guess what 90% still fails. 80% fails TWICE AS MUCH as 90%. Single failed DS can mean the enemy gets their move, which can very well mean you're dead. Any thing lower than hard 80% for anything is no longer "reliable". your tactics suck and considering you'd never need all 12 strikes to kill someone in Apotheosis (at least with Limit Breaker), missing 1/4 Dual Strikes means jack shit Edited July 4, 2013 by shadykid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airship Canon Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 your tactics suck and considering you'd never need all 12 strikes to kill someone in Apotheosis (at least with Limit Breaker), missing 1/4 Dual Strikes means jack shit Your assuming EP doesn't exist, and the point isn't killing with 12, it's 6- BEFORE the enemy gets to swing. Where you've only got 2. Miss 1/2 enemy lands a 70+ Damage hit or two, dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Your assuming EP doesn't exist, and the point isn't killing with 12, it's 6- BEFORE the enemy gets to swing. Where you've only got 2. Miss 1/2 enemy lands a 70+ Damage hit or two, dead. assuming one would engage in enemy phase in Apotheosis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esme Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) May I vomit now? EDIT: Heh, seems like I have a knack for unintentionally necroposting. Oops! Edited May 20, 2014 by Esme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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