Emperor Hardin Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Morgan can already inherit weirder classes(Fighter, Villager), so why not Conqureror if his father is Walhart. Overlord's max stats aren't obviously overpowered like alot of boss classes and its not like Awakening's classes are that balanced anyway. Before anyone mentions this would give Female Avatar/Male Morgan an advantage over Male Avatar/Female Morgan, note that Manakete is only available to female Morgan as there are only female Manaketes in this game for some reason.... So it would work out evenly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vashiane Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I have no idea... it's just like how Inigo/Brady/Kjelle/Cynthia can't inherit Chrom's Lord class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 (edited) Manakete sucks because no Braves Conqueror..... only acceptable at best Male Morgan + Female MU already have enough advantages as it is Edited August 9, 2013 by I have a Dragon Boner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I don't know, but Morgan should just be a Cavalier, if you marry Walhart. Conqueror is just like the Great Knight, except he has a red horse. I hated Walhart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Hardin Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 I don't know, but Morgan should just be a Cavalier, if you marry Walhart. Conqueror is just like the Great Knight, except he has a red horse. I hated Walhart. The stats are different(basically more balanced) and it has more movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 >fighter>weirder class say what? Anyway, it's probably because it's like a "promoted class" that lacks the promotion. Kind of like Bride and Dread Fighter, having promoted-esque bases, stats, and caps. Starting Morgan in this class would make her kind of OP. Or maybe it's just a male-only class, who knows. Not I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquakat Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Storywise there's no reason. Gameplay reason was likely to keep Walhart 'unique'. Maybe it could be symbolic of Morgan not following his father's path or Walhart cutting back on the conquering thing? Or, again, IS wanted to keep their tin tyrant unique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Hardin Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 >fighter >weirder class say what? Anyway, it's probably because it's like a "promoted class" that lacks the promotion. Kind of like Bride and Dread Fighter, having promoted-esque bases, stats, and caps. Starting Morgan in this class would make her kind of OP. Or maybe it's just a male-only class, who knows. Not I. Weirder for the short and young Morgan to be in. Female Morgan can start as Manakete. Also as Walhart is male, thus only marryable by Female Avatar, and the class wouldn't be available to Female Morgan in the first place even if it was unisex. Making things perfectly even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Manakete isn't a promoted-esque unpromotable class. Their bases are kind of terrible. The caps are great, but it makes sense for the class to be available because it doesn't make Morgan OP at base. And I kind of had a brain slip there, about the genders and whatnot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Hardin Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 Manakete isn't a promoted-esque unpromotable class. Their bases are kind of terrible. The caps are great, but it makes sense for the class to be available because it doesn't make Morgan OP at base. And I kind of had a brain slip there, about the genders and whatnot. Also note that Walhart is only marryable very late in the game where everyone's stats would be high anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 So? Morgan is still suposed to join as a level 10 unpromoted unit. You can marry anybody that late to your avatar and Morgan will still be the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Hardin Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 So? Morgan is still suposed to join as a level 10 unpromoted unit. You can marry anybody that late to your avatar and Morgan will still be the same. Conqureror isn't a promoted class and its base stats aren't much higher then the unpromoted classes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Conqureror isn't a promoted class and its base stats aren't much higher then the unpromoted classes. Conqueror's base stats are entirely equal to or higher than Great Lord (M) with the exception of 1 speed point. The stats are about on par with promoted classes bases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Hardin Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 Conqueror's base stats are entirely equal to or higher than Great Lord (M) with the exception of 1 speed point. The stats are about on par with promoted classes bases. Then it can be available as a reclass option to Walhart Morgan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 But they didn't have a way to implement that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Morgan can already inherit weirder classes(Fighter, Villager), so why not Conqureror if his father is Walhart. Overlord's max stats aren't obviously overpowered like alot of boss classes and its not like Awakening's classes are that balanced anyway. Before anyone mentions this would give Female Avatar/Male Morgan an advantage over Male Avatar/Female Morgan, note that Manakete is only available to female Morgan as there are only female Manaketes in this game for some reason.... So it would work out evenly. Playable manaketes are not an often occurrence in Fire Emblem, but all of the usable ones are females. Bantu suckssssss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Hey! Bantu was boss in FE3. Just not in the remakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 (edited) Bantu has 99 Defense Your arguments are invalid Edited August 9, 2013 by I have a Dragon Boner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarthe Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 This might be circular logic a bit, but I think if Conqueror were meant to be used by anyone but Walhart, the class name wouldn't match his personal title, and the class description wouldn't exclusively describe him: "The dauntless emperor of Valm. Wields swords, lances, axes." (Technically it could probably describe Alm too but that's splitting hairs I think) So I believe the answer is "story reasons." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faye Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 It's the game's way of saying "Walmart is the most horrible and ugliest father ever choose someone better". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Hey! Bantu was boss in FE3. Just not in the remakes. terrible 3/4 of the time, then. didn't know he was decent in FE3 though. Bantu has 99 Defense Your arguments are invalid wait what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Hardin Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 This might be circular logic a bit, but I think if Conqueror were meant to be used by anyone but Walhart, the class name wouldn't match his personal title, and the class description wouldn't exclusively describe him: "The dauntless emperor of Valm. Wields swords, lances, axes." (Technically it could probably describe Alm too but that's splitting hairs I think) So I believe the answer is "story reasons." Yeah, thats the only real reason I see for Conqueror not being inheritable by Walhart!Morgan. wait what If you get Bantu to 20 defense in the first NEs Fire Emblem, he'll get a 12 defense boost giving him 32 defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 wait what If you get Bantu to 20 defense in the first NEs Fire Emblem, he'll get a 12 defense boost giving him 32 defense.there's a bug where you can get bantu to have infinite defense in FE1 (i think? might've been fe3bk1) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 (edited) Also its more like amazing 2/4 of the time Or 3/5 Where his "terribleness" is both thanks to the remake, because unlike Wendell, who get nerfed to the ground and is still amazing as fuck, Bantu lost everything that make him cool Edited August 10, 2013 by I have a Dragon Boner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sL360 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 I'd like to say story reasons too. That, or Morgan was not fit to walk the Conqueror's path. Just look at him. He's too frail and kind hearted. If Walhart had a child that could inherit his class, he'd have to practically be a mini version of Walhart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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