Czar_Yoshi Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 If Libra!Laurent sucks, then who should my Miriel be with? Should i do the Gregor!Laurent, Vaike!Gerome, and Kellam!Nah? Or something different? Gregor, Lon'qu or Stahl. I prefer Gregor. Gerome can still work with Vaike, Henry, Stahl or Virion. Can you give Libra to Brady, Henry to Gerome and Gregor to Laurent, perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waifu Severa Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) Gregor, Lon'qu or Stahl. I prefer Gregor. Gerome can still work with Vaike, Henry, Stahl or Virion. Can you give Libra to Brady, Henry to Gerome and Gregor to Laurent, perhaps? Ok, Gregor for Laurent and Libra to Brady will do. But i want to know why Henry>Vaike for Gerome. Doesnt he miss out on that nice +7 Str mods? EDIT: Oh, is it because he gets Anathema and Hex? Edited July 28, 2014 by Waifu Severa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rohesia Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 If you don't mind my input, I think Virion is also a good father for Laurent.Make Miriel a Dark Knight to pass down Lifetaker, and have Virion second seal to Mage, and then master seal to Sage (either at Mage level 10, or 20 -I always max out levels for the extra stats) so he can pass down Tomefaire. This way Laurent can heal himself and the extra +5 Magic from Tomefaire will make him a beast with tomes.To be honest, I don't think there is such thing as a horrible pair. As long as you pass down skills that'll help the kids be independent, they'll be fine then. Again though, just my added input. The decision is ultimately up to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiney Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Hey so I am trying my hand at a harder mode right now and I wanted to learn how to optimize the children in the game. I was wondering if anyone can give me input on this TENTATIVE list. ?= Not really sure...I just kinda stuck them together. Coredila x Lon'qu Lissa x Frederick? Cherche x Kellam Libra x Maribelle Sumia x Henry (I want to make Cynthia into a dark flier) Chrom x MU Olivia x Vaike? Pannel x Stahl? Miriel x Ricken Nowi x Gregor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastor15243 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) My two cents: Coredila x Lon'qu I believe I heard Czar_Yoshi (regular pairing guru on this thread) praise this pairing but I can't remember why, and I don't believe this gives Severa Luna, so I can't personally recommend this Lissa x Frederick? Gets Owain Luna, which he needs, but also reduces his speed. As an aside, it also perfectly evens out his strength and magic modifiers, so there's that, if you're willing to deal with Owain having a -1 speed mod and don't want him to specialize in magic. Otherwise, most people recomment Ricken. Cherche x Kellam Seems okay, not sure Libra x Maribelle Gives Brady dark mage and nothing else, keep that in mind. Of course, Brady already has galeforce and Luna access, so if you plan on Brady being a sorcerer or sage, this might be okay. Sumia x Henry (I want to make Cynthia into a dark flier) Generally considered the best pairing for Sumia if you're not hooking her up with Chrom Chrom x MU I love this pairing to death, though many will disagree with me. The general consensus among higher-ups is that you want a 3rd generation morgan, because it's not trading two strong kids for one hyper strong kid, it's trading two strong kids for one hyper strong kid and one normal kid, since pairing the avatar with a 2nd genner lets you actually USE all of the second genners (there's 13 of them, one of the kids of the opposite gender of your avatar is going to be left out otherwise.) Olivia x Vaike? Inigo won't have Luna, which is virtually the only real qualification Olivia's husband needs. Literally anyone with Luna works for Inigo. Pannel x Stahl? I THINK This is okay, it gives Yarne a decent strength mod, which is really all he needs as a support unit. Miriel x Ricken Excellent magic mod, but be warned, Laurent can't get galeforce, and in this setup he can't aversa's night tank either since he lacks armsthrift. Also, Ricken is better used elsewhere for his Luna AND good magic mod. Nowi x Gregor? This seems okay, can't really say. Edited July 28, 2014 by Alastor15243 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isetrh Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I can't find the post, but I remember someone (I think it was Czar Yoshi) saying that Severa has a somewhat unique niche as a 75 speed Wyvern Lord, while there are already plenty of good proc stackers. I want to try this, partly because it would also free up Stahl for Inigo so he can get Bowfaire. Is this a good build? Virion!Severa Vengeance/All Stats +2/Lancefaire/Galeforce/Limit Breaker 38 (WL base) +5 (mods) +10 (LB) +10 (rallies) +2 (AS+2) +2 (tonic) +8 (Berserker support (Would Yarne be good?)) =75 speed The only reason I'm not giving her Lon'qu is because he was going to go to Laurent, who will father Morgan. I don't see much of a difference between Virion and Lon'qu for my purposes beyond 1 point in skill, since neither WL Severa nor Hard Support Sage Laurent needs anything besides Wyvern Rider that they don't already get from their mothers unless I'm missing something. I'm a little clueless as to what Hard Supports should run, but how is this for Laurent? Hex/Anathema/All Stats +2/Tomefaire/Limit Breaker Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar_Yoshi Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) OK, my arm hurts today and I can't type well so this'll be brief. I can elaborate later if anyone needs it. Ok, Gregor for Laurent and Libra to Brady will do. But i want to know why Henry>Vaike for Gerome. Doesnt he miss out on that nice +7 Str mods? EDIT: Oh, is it because he gets Anathema and Hex? He still has +5 Str, and Anathema/Hex are his best options for +Hit skills while keeping Berserker. If you don't mind my input, I think Virion is also a good father for Laurent.Make Miriel a Dark Knight to pass down Lifetaker, and have Virion second seal to Mage, and then master seal to Sage (either at Mage level 10, or 20 -I always max out levels for the extra stats) so he can pass down Tomefaire. This way Laurent can heal himself and the extra +5 Magic from Tomefaire will make him a beast with tomes.To be honest, I don't think there is such thing as a horrible pair. As long as you pass down skills that'll help the kids be independent, they'll be fine then. Again though, just my added input. The decision is ultimately up to you. Ease-of-access for skills doesn't matter postgame. Laurent already gets TF/Lifetaker without Virion anyway, and he won't even be using Lifetaker because he'll stay in the back. Lon'qu!Severa is good because she can reach 75 Spd as a Wyvern Lord. Fred x Lissa gives bad mod clash, don't do it. Kellam gives Gerome neither BF nor Zerker, and he needs at least one of those to be good. Vaike!Inigo has Barbarian overlap and no proc, consider Stahl or Fred instead. Ricken x Miriel is good if Ricken is free- but it's a mods-only pair so don't do it if Ricken could see better use elsewhere (Owain). Everything I didn't mention is fine if you use it right. I don't see much of a difference between Virion and Lon'qu for my purposes beyond 1 point in skill, As Wyverns they're identical, but Lon'qu gives SF for Hero double duty and Avo+10 for Avoid Stack, Virion gives TF for DF double duty. Edited July 29, 2014 by Czar_Yoshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isetrh Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) Thanks. I'm going to assume everything you didn't address is fine. I hope your arm gets better soon. Edited July 29, 2014 by isetrh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastor15243 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) Hey, I'm trying out Vaike!Severa, with my Chrom!Inigo, has anybody tried that before? Edit: Same, hope your arm gets better. Edited July 29, 2014 by Alastor15243 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar_Yoshi Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 It should work. Hero x Paladin would probably be best, it'll get Severa to 75 Spd without All+2. Inigo can also reach 75, but he will need All+2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastor15243 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 It should work. Hero x Paladin would probably be best, it'll get Severa to 75 Spd without All+2. Inigo can also reach 75, but he will need All+2. Just wondering, why Paladin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRei Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Hey, I'm trying out Vaike!Severa, with my Chrom!Inigo, has anybody tried that before? Edit: Same, hope your arm gets better. I've tried Vaike!Severa (wanted to see her as a blonde). Pass down Axefaire and she's about the same as a Stahl fathered Hero Severa, just with axes instead of swords. However, you lose Vantage (from either Stahl or Lon'qu) for +1 strength and +1 speed (compared to Stahl). It's a luxury skill rather than a necessary one though, as I don't believe the standard Virion or Lon'qu builds even use it. Still something to consider though, as options are always nice. Just wondering, why Paladin? It has a great pair-up bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar_Yoshi Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Paladin because I like giving my double Galepairs an 8-mov unit and it lets Severa reach 75 Spd without losing the +Str. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelonGx Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Chrom x Olivia requires VGM/RLM/RBM/ROM to have the best optimization. V: Vaike G: Gerome M: Morgan R: Ricken L: Laurent B: Brady O: Owain For VDS+/VVDS+, Olivia!Lucina's support power is worse than Sumia/Maribelle/FeMU!Lucina. So if you want Chrom x Olivia to be more worthy, you should make Olivia!Lucina lead & find a best supporter for the VDS+ usage, such as Extreme Morgans: VGM/RLM/RBM/ROM. For Inigo, Chrom!Inigo is functionally replaceable. This makes Olivia!Lucina x Extreme Morgan more important otherwise the whole pairing is going to be generally inferior to others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waifu Severa Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) Lol Severa da best and everybody knows it. I cant seem to pass Chapter 1(call me noob whatever) on Lunatic, should i just go to Hard mode? Last time i attempting Lunatic, i made it to chapter 4 all by myself but i accidentally deleted that file. Im still shaky on these pairings: Henry x Cherche Libra x Maribelle Gregor x Miriel Also, is it Vaike x Nowi or Kellam x Nowi? Im assuming Vaike since Nah will be support because no galeforks. Oh snap me and Melon posted at the same time Edited July 29, 2014 by Waifu Severa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelonGx Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Vaike!Nah: 55 General, 46 Sage Kellam!Nah: 53-5=48 General, 48 Sage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waifu Severa Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I guess i can go wtih Vaike!Nah... Also i just noticed something. I wanted my Gaius!Noire to be a Sniper, but she doesnt get Armsthrift! That means i cant use double, but only forged Longbow instead...And she cant even be a Dark Flier because she doesnt get Tomefaire! Should i just leave her a Sniper without Armsthrift and use Longbow instead of Double Bow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isetrh Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Is it bad if Frederick is a bachelor? I remember reading that he was one of the best fathers, but that may or may not have been on GameFAQs. I don't see how he's all that amazing compared to the other GK dads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelonGx Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I guess i can go wtih Vaike!Nah... Also i just noticed something. I wanted my Gaius!Noire to be a Sniper, but she doesnt get Armsthrift! That means i cant use double, but only forged Longbow instead...And she cant even be a Dark Flier because she doesnt get Tomefaire! Should i just leave her a Sniper without Armsthrift and use Longbow instead of Double Bow? Double Bow has more power (18 vs 14 on common enemies, 44 vs 42 on flying enemies) but less accuracy.GF+TF is MaMU exclusive. But MaMU x 1st forces a 2nd-Gale-girl to be benched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmine Sword Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 You don't need Armsthrift to use the Double Bow. Where does this idea that Armsthrift is needed to use legendary weapons come from? On a similar note, why is Armsthrift getting hyped up again? With all weapons being able to be obtained in infinite amounts, the best weapons being buyable in shops, and there being infinite money to buy said weapons, Armsthrift doesn't really have much benefit. I mean, I'm a bit obsessive-compulsive in real life, but even I find this overreaction to not having full uses on a legendary weapon a bit much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 You don't need Armsthrift to use the Double Bow. Where does this idea that Armsthrift is needed to use legendary weapons come from? On a similar note, why is Armsthrift getting hyped up again? With all weapons being able to be obtained in infinite amounts, the best weapons being buyable in shops, and there being infinite money to buy said weapons, Armsthrift doesn't really have much benefit. I mean, I'm a bit obsessive-compulsive in real life, but even I find this overreaction to not having full uses on a legendary weapon a bit much. I would say it's more for convenience reasons - it does mean not needing to grind Infinite Regalia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar_Yoshi Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Vaike!Nah: 55 General, 46 Sage Kellam!Nah: 53-5=48 General, 48 Sage I think pairup boosts matter too. Not everyone is willing to sacrifice 75 Spd or a few points of DS (2.5 compared to Hero Nah) for a little extra Atk, especially when LB, Rally and Agg are all on the table, because everything dies to that anyway. However, I do recommend Vaike. Should i just leave her a Sniper without Armsthrift and use Longbow instead of Double Bow? Forged Longbows are fine. The main use of Longbows in Apo is getting Anna to come off her throne so she loses the Avo bonus, and you don't actually need to do any damage to do that. Is it bad if Frederick is a bachelor? I remember reading that he was one of the best fathers, but that may or may not have been on GameFAQs. I don't see how he's all that amazing compared to the other GK dads. It's fine to leave him out. GameFAQs is a pretty unreliable source, Fred isn't actually that amazing (no Faires and -2 Spd aren't something most units can take). Where does this idea that Armsthrift is needed to use legendary weapons come from? He doesn't have IR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ownagepuffs Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Hey, I'm trying out Vaike!Severa, with my Chrom!Inigo, has anybody tried that before? Edit: Same, hope your arm gets better. I'm going to actually recommend Bow Knight for Chrom!Inigo instead of Paladin. You miss out on the Paladin's +7 Str but Vaike!Severa has high Str and is in a class with good Str as well so it is not too much of a loss. Bowfaire access is important. Ignoring Weapon Triangle and going through Pavise as a Physical weapon on top of 2 range, Galeforce access, and Brave effect makes Brave Bow amazing for Bow Knight Chrom!Inigo. The Bow Knight has amazing pair up bonuses. +3 Skl and Spd is always great and +1 move benefits Hero Severa quite a bit as you go from a 6/8 Move pair to a 7/8 move pair. Bow Knight Chrom!Inigo Bowfaire Galeforce Luna Aggressor Limit Break Hero Vaike!Severa Axefaire Luna Galeforce Anathema Limit Break Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Hi! ^^ I'm getting Fire Emblem Awakening today, and wanted to plan out my pairings a bit. I'm a total noob to this game and the series as a whole, so I'm sorry if I say anything stupid! I stole Goldluck's suggested pairings (here), and just put FeMU with Chrom, which is the only part I'd really like to keep that way. That leaves Olivia out, and I'm not sure how to readjust these based on that. Any help would be greatly appreciated! FeMU x Chrom Stahl x Cordelia Frederick x Cherche Kellam x Panne Donnel x Sully Vaike x Nowi Gaius x Tharja Ricken x Lissa Gregor x Miriel Henry x Sumia Lon'qu x Maribelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ownagepuffs Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Hi! ^^ I'm getting Fire Emblem Awakening today, and wanted to plan out my pairings a bit. I'm a total noob to this game and the series as a whole, so I'm sorry if I say anything stupid! I stole Goldluck's suggested pairings (here), and just put FeMU with Chrom, which is the only part I'd really like to keep that way. That leaves Olivia out, and I'm not sure how to readjust these based on that. Any help would be greatly appreciated! FeMU x Chrom Stahl x Cordelia Frederick x Cherche Kellam x Panne Donnel x Sully Vaike x Nowi Gaius x Tharja Ricken x Lissa Gregor x Miriel Henry x Sumia Lon'qu x Maribelle Freddy x Olivia, Virion x Maribelle, Lon'qu x Severa, Stahl x Cherche. These are the changes you should make. Otherwise it is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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