Thor Odinson Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) As long as you have 3 capable units iirc there's a formation to box in tiki entirely, whereas the 4 filler can be any scrub since enemies only attack within a certain line of tiki I don't take credit for this formation though like sometimes I put Anna solo on one of the filler spots and she comes out unscathed, the AI is weird on that chapter Edited September 17, 2013 by Ezio Auditore da Firenze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interceptor Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 ^ Make sure that the guys on the Tiki Axis can ORKO, though, otherwise your filler units can be in danger if the lanes get clogged. Entirely possible to recruit her with only three combatants, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 damn, thats really good to know >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConfidenceKBM Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 Wow, yeah. The AI are weird on that one, for sure, but I didn't realize HOW weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConfidenceKBM Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 So, for you guys, what's the hardest difficulty in the franchise? I would have thought lunatic+ but based on this thread it sounds like you can steamroll it if you know what to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 FE12 Lunatic Reverse no contest there I am still struggling at beating FE12 Lunatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interceptor Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) Wow, yeah. The AI are weird on that one, for sure, but I didn't realize HOW weird. Yes, very weird. But just FYI, if you have the ambition to go further than vanilla Lunatic, keep in mind that it doesn't really work as well anymore once enemies can start spawning with Pass. I avoided Tiki entirely. Edited September 17, 2013 by Interceptor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM ME MARIANNE ART Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 A bit late to the party, but... Donnel has such a hard time getting going on lunatic that in a no grind playthrough it's just not worth it to use him when the experience can go to a more useful unit. Once Nowi gets going, which should be in three or four levels, she stearolls past everything, even if she's doubled. Although this is from my personal experience, so it may be slightly different for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 So, for you guys, what's the hardest difficulty in the franchise? I would have thought lunatic+ but based on this thread it sounds like you can steamroll it if you know what to do. FE12 Lunatic/R actually requires the use of a team Every other Hard Mode is even easier at least they don't have chapter 2 bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConfidenceKBM Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 I don't know what you mean by "just not worth it". Going from hero to warrior he's sitting on Armsthrift, Aptitude, Sol, and Counter. Give him a brave axe and he can destroy the universe. I beat Yarne's chapter (i didn't actually level up panne, relax) by fighting BOTH armies. Donnel killed the entire right-side army by himself without using a single weapon charge. Other maps he dodge tanks 20 enemies without any weapons so I can peel them off one by one for other units. Ultimately, by funneling exp into him early, I gained access to experience in the late game that I wouldn't have had access to otherwise. Besides, one level on donnel is like two levels on someone else because of aptitude. And passing aptitude to a child (in my case severa) proved just as powerful. They are both wrecking machines. In conversation I refer to them as the Soulbreaker and the Daughter of the Soulbreaker. I dunno. Maybe I spread my exp too thin and so Donnel just looks better by comparison. But I mean, he solo'd Walhart. He's fuckin strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interceptor Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Donnel is worth it if you don't value your time or effort. He's busted in a similar way as Avatar (both of them get stuffed full of stats quickly: Donnel because of Aptitude, Avatar because of Veteran), but his class set is pretty limited and he's a pain in the ass to train (whereas Avatar is stupid easy to train, and can be almost anything). It's not like Donnel has some sort of monopoly on "kills everything and never dies", because you can get there defensively with Nosferatanking (anyone with a DM reclass), or high concrete defenses (Manaketes, etc), and any offensive limitations you have go away with a suitable Pair-up partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) N.O.W.I. doesn't need any special training, just feed her kills and let her amazing growths do the work. Reclass her back into Manakete against once she hits level 30 (for leveling speed purposes: Manakete has caps like a promoted unit, but levels like a tier 1 unit), and make sure that she always has a +SPD Pair-up partner (she's a little slow). The Dragonstone does run out, but you get another one from Gangrel in Ch11, and then they are buyable after Ch12. But you can get enough training before then, as long as you don't feed entire maps to her. That's it. Once she gets going, stuff just tinks her. When Endgame arrives she can have 56 DEF or more, and 51+ RES. Donnel cannot even sniff that. EDIT: Tiki is really good, too, if you don't want to put up with the early training of N.O.W.I. in Lunatic. What can I say? You sold me on using her. Now I have a reason to use her on Lunatic. Also, what about Gregor, if I'm not using him? I've usually just had him there as Nowi's supportbot, since Mercenary/Hero bonuses are just that good (or at least, compliment tank units that well). Also I've always wanted to try Mage Nowi, she looks adorable. And Dark Knight Nowi sounds like a plan, too. Edited September 17, 2013 by bearclaw95 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConfidenceKBM Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 I BEAT IT First turn kill with some rescuing. Donnel/Chrom + Olivia brought him down. GG, thanks for the help everybody. I'm really really really satisfied with this playthrough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 'Grats, man. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaprong Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Now I wanna see you shedding tears as you reset 40 times in Chapter 2 in Lunatic+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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