Some math: Aether vs Rightful King [Very High SKL]

[Airship Canon]

It's known that Aether is better than RFK from about 22 SKL until "very high levels". I disagree with the latter. At the point where RFK can even raise Luna to 100%, Aether's output is still more valuable than RFK ever will be outside of Streetpass (where RFK can be used to boost Lethality).

When I said, "Very High Skill" I mean 90.

AKA: 100% Luna.

Two units:

[Note: +SKL/-DEF]

Chrom!Inigo!Morgan

Assassin, Mystletainn

Limit Breaker, Aggressor, Rightful King, Luna [Note, could also be Ignis. Same output], Galeforce

Rallied, Tonic'd, (S-rank) Hero Pair Up

Olivia!Lucina!Morgan

Assassin, Mystletainn

Limit Breaker, Aether, Ignis, Luna, Galeforce

Rallied, Tonic'd,(S-rank) Hero Pair Up

Total Stats (which is equal due to common parentage, class and weapon.)

54+15 41+15 65+25 59+20 56+15 39+19 38+15

Proc Chances F-Morg:
45% Aether
49.5% Luna
4.95% Ignis
0.55% Nothing

Proc Chances M-Morg:
100% Luna

Attack vs 55 DEF/Dragonskin (Anna's stats, Generic target [no Weapon Triangle involved], Weapon Rank bonus not included): 14

Aether Proc: 14 + 27: 41
Luna Proc: 27 [33 Agg Phase for Male Morgan]
Ignis Proc: 27

33.2285 Average: F-Morgan
30 Average: M-Morgan

Secondary 100% PP engage (100% Aggressor vs 50% Aggressor):
33 Average: M-Morgan

Even if every attack made by Male-Luna+-Morgan is during Aggressor, Female-A/L/I-Morgan is still better.

Aether>RFK at all times once any reasonable amount of SKL is obtained. I rest my case.

[Tables]

I don't think this should really be a surprise to anyone. I mean heck I would probably drop Ignis on that build, since it contributes very little, go with a -faire or Aggressor something, unless you somehow are in a situation where +5 damage to your attacks is less good than a chance of missing one proc.

[shadykid]

screw that

drop Luna, pick a mixed class, roll with Ignis

[Redredc]

You realize that you can have up to 34 extra skill. This DOES make it possible to have a 100% luna activation rate. However, you will not be able to add any more skills that you would usually use (Galeforce, Lethality, etc.).

The average stat cap (without limit breaker) for an assassin or sniper is 50. More or less depending on their asset/flaw. The highest that I've seen so far (Spotpass Jaffar) is 52.

50

+Limit Breaker=60

+Mystletainn=65

+Rally Spectrum=69

+Rally Skill=73

+Rally Heart=75

+Tonic=77

+All Stats+2=79

+Skill+2=81

+Barrack Boost=85

+Defender=86

+Pair-Up with a Sniper, Bow Knight, or Villager=89

+That person has at least 30 skill=92

+If that person has an A or S with pair up=94

[shadykid]

Mystletainn is also shit, as is Skill +2 (and even All Stats +2, really)

bye bye!

Ylisse's in Virginia? Archanea is the Confederacy, I always knew Marth was a crook

Edited October 2, 2013 by shadykid

[Canto]

EDIT: I cannot count.

Edited October 2, 2013 by Canto

[Meteor]

It's known that Aether is better than RFK from about 22 SKL until "very high levels".

Wait, what? that doesn't even logically make sense. No math necessary.

If anything, the useful thing to know is whether or not RK is better than Ignis when Avatar!Lucina is runing Aether+Luna (I'm guessing RK wins).

Edited October 2, 2013 by Meteor

[Airship Canon]

Wait, what? that doesn't even logically make sense. No math necessary.

It comes down to total Proc%, and the statement ignores output in favor of "It doesn't proc 100%!"

At 72 SKL:

Aether+Luna: 82.08%

Luna+RFK: 82%

At 73 SKL:

Aether+Luna: 82.72%

Luna+RFK: 83%...

And it climbs from there, until 90 SKL hits, then you get

Aether + Luna: 94.5%

Luna: 100%

However the output from the Aether success will exceed the failures. Luna at 90+RFK may be more consistent, but that's completely ignorant of the rest of the other's firepower.