WrathN'Resolve Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 (edited) Okay.... I have two teams... And I really need to know which is better... Then I'll need to do with that team. Experimental team Sumia!Lucina: Great lord-Galeforce, limit breaker, Dual strike/Aether, Rightful king, dual guard/aegis Brave sword, Gravidus. S support with Gerome Frederick!Gerome: Wyvern lord, Paladin- Axefaire/Dualguard, dual support+/resist +10, Luna, limit breaker, Aggressor Brave axe, Helswath S support with Lucina Ricken!Owain:Dread fighter- counter, (Luna, Astra), galeforce, limit breaker, Aggressor. Celica's gale, Brave Sword.S support with Morgan Tharja!Morgan: grandmaster, sorceror, Sage- galeforce, limit breaker,(Armsthrift, anathema), tomefaire, Ignis. Valflame, Celica S support with Owain Libra!Inigo: dread fighter, sorc- Astra, wrath, vantage, limit breaker, galeforce Brave Bow/Sword S support with Severa Stahl!Severa: hero, Falcoknight, bow knight- Galeforce, Luna, Armsthrift, limit breaker, Vantage, Lance/bow/Swordfaire) S support with Inigo Donny!Kjelle: General, Hero, Great Knight- Aegis, Pavise, Sol, Limit breaker, Galeforce Daddy pair with Donny Donnel: Hero/Warrior/bow knight- Resistance +10, Armsthrift, sol, Aggressor, Limit breaker Henry!Brady: Sage, SORC!- galeforce, tomefaire, Aggressor, Luna, Limit Breaker. S support with Noire AvatarNoire: Sorceror. Galeforce, Astra, Tomefaire, Dualguard, limit breaker. Chrom!Cynthia:Dark Flier. Galeforce, (Aether, Luna), Dualguard, Limit breaker, tomefaire S support with Laurent Gregor!Laurent: sorceror- Armsthrift, limit breaker, wrath, vantage, vengeance S support, with Cynthia Chrom: Great Lord, Bow knight, Dread fighter-Dual strike, Dual Guard, Aether, limit breaker, Rightful King S support with Sumia Sumia:Falcon knight/dark flier- Galeforce, (tome/lancefaire), Luna, LimitBreaker, pavise Kellam!Yarne:Berserker, taguel- Aggressor, Luna, Dualguard, axefaire, LimitBreaker, brave axe S support with nah Gaius!Nah:Manakete!- Galeforce, LimitBreaker, sol, vantage, (deliverer, acrobat, pass) S support with yarne Sure fire team Olivia!Lucina: Great lord-Galeforce, limit breaker, Dual strike/Aether, Rightful king, dual guard/aegis Brave sword, short spear. S support with Gerome Frederick!Gerome: Wyvern lord, Paladin- Axefaire/Dualstrike dual support+/resist +10, Luna, limit breaker, Aggressor Brave axe, Helswath S support with Lucina Stahl!Owain:Dread fighter- vantage, (Luna, Astra), galeforce limit breaker, Aggressor. Celica's gale, Brave Sword.S support with Morgan Morgan: grandmaster, sorceror, Sage- galeforce, limit breaker,(Armsthrift, anathema), tomefaire, Ignis. Valflame, Celica S support with Owain Chrom!Inigo: Hero, Bow Knight, paladin, Zerker- Astra, Rightful King, Aggressor, limit breaker, galeforce Brave Bow/Sword S support with Severa Vaike!Severa: hero, Falcoknight, bow knight- Galeforce, Luna, Armsthrift, limit breaker, Vantage, Lance/bow/Swordfaire) S support with Inigo Donny!Kjelle: General, Hero, Great Knight- Aegis, Pavise, Sol, Limit breaker, Galeforce Daddy pair with Donny Donnel: Hero/Warrior/bow knight- Resistance +10, Armsthrift, sol, Aggressor, Limit breaker Libra!Brady: Sage, SORC!- galeforce, tomefaire, Aggressor, Luna, Limit Breaker. S support with Noire Avatar!Noire: Sorceror. Galeforce, Astra, Tomefaire, Dualguard, limit breaker. Henry!Cynthia:Dark Flier. Galeforce, Anathema, Luna, Dualguard, Limit breaker S support with Laurent Gregor!Laurent: sorceror- Armsthrift, limit breaker, wrath, vantage, vengeance S support, with Cynthia Chrom: Great Lord, Bow knight, Dread fighter-Dual strike, Dual Guard, Aether, limit breaker, Rightful King S support with Olivia (Guarding, but not paired with) Olivia:Dancer- Limit breaker, Astra, Galeforce, Special Dance, (Pass, bond) Kellam!Yarne:Berserker, taguel- Aggressor, Luna, Dualguard, axefaire, LimitBreaker, brave axe S support with nah Gaius!Nah:Manakete!- Galeforce, LimitBreaker, sol, vantage, (deliverer, acrobat, pass) S support with yarne I'm completely fine with tweaks, but I just love teams with variety, so sorc enthusiasts can go encage themselves in the bones of the innocent. One last thing / means it varies on the role, while ()means that the skills are contested Edited October 24, 2013 by WrathN'Resolve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airship Canon Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Would help, but I see a critical error, and therefore won't unless it's fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM ME MARIANNE ART Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I really hope I did not just see Libra!Inigo as a physical unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathN'Resolve Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 Oooooh... You're right! Fixed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Would help, but I see a critical error, and therefore won't unless it's fixed. You've got to be kidding me. Please tell me it's an *ACTUAL* gameplay error and not what I'm thinking. Are you HONESTLY that salty over Gerome x Lucina S support? REALLY? REALLY? That would be like me throwing a fit *EVERY* freaking time someone pairs Chrom and Olivia. If it's not then feel free to make fun of me. But otherwise... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathN'Resolve Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 Excuse me?? Can we get back on topic? I am we'll aware than Lucina and gerome have subpar support conversations. But their classes fill in for the stats that they are lacking Gerome's wyvern speed, and lucina's neglecting defense. These two make each other powerful as the Other's supporter Lucina's rightful king making her dualguards and Dualstrike 20% more effective if she is support, while making an equally fine front liner Gerome is the same way, SO SERIOUSLY? This caused me to realize... Lucina as a support... Paladin or bk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Lucina's rightful king making her dualguards and Dualstrike 20% more effective if she is support No. Rightful King does NOT affect Dual Strike or Dual Guard rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathN'Resolve Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 ...oh. Well then... This is awkward..... Ummm... Then just scratch Dualstrike, and put Luna/Aether? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vashiane Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Excuse me?? Can we get back on topic? I am we'll aware than Lucina and gerome have subpar support conversations. But their classes fill in for the stats that they are lacking Gerome's wyvern speed, and lucina's neglecting defense. These two make each other powerful as the Other's supporter Lucina's rightful king making her dualguards and Dualstrike 20% more effective if she is support, while making an equally fine front liner Gerome is the same way, SO SERIOUSLY? This caused me to realize... Lucina as a support... Paladin or bk? Hmm. Bow Knight gives fairly decent pair-up bonuses, plus the much loved +1 Movement (or well, I love it), and she already comes with Bowfaire, Dual Guard and Bowbreaker from her father, not to mention Dual Strike+. Paladin's more welll-rounded stats provide excellent all-around pair-up bonuses, and she can put her mother's Lancefaire to good use. I honestly prefer Bow Knight myself, but that's a personal preference really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 (edited) Lucina's rightful king making her dualguards and Dualstrike 20% more effective if she is support Wait wait wait hold up here. Can you explain this part? Edit: No. Rightful King does NOT affect Dual Strike or Dual Guard rates. Sorry, internet, I didn't see his post. I was about to say "Skills that increase or decrease percentages in hit, avoid, or dual attack and dual guard rates don't get affected by Rightful King." For the record, I was calling him out on his BS, I didn't mean to derail your topic. I had the intention of trying to help you, but just got distracted. Edited October 24, 2013 by shadowofchaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathN'Resolve Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 Hmm. Bow Knight gives fairly decent pair-up bonuses, plus the much loved +1 Movement (or well, I love it), and she already comes with Bowfaire, Dual Guard and Bowbreaker from her father, not to mention Dual Strike+. Paladin's more welll-rounded stats provide excellent all-around pair-up bonuses, and she can put her mother's Lancefaire to good use. I honestly prefer Bow Knight myself, but that's a personal preference really. Okay... But couldn't you just get lancefaire just as easily? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vashiane Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Okay... But couldn't you just get lancefaire just as easily? Yeah, you can, really. They're really tied in all honestly, I just have a slight preference for one other the other. That +1 movement is very helpful. Although that's really for Olivia!Lucina, because Sumia!Lucina has access to both Tomefaire AND Lancefaire, making her a viable Dark Flier support as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 (edited) Well, considering you're pairing her with Gerome with STR bonus... if she was the frontline attacker, Bow Knight would have a problem dealing with both Ranged and Close Ranged enemies at the same time on the enemy phase, since you'd have to use the Levin Sword for that. Edited October 24, 2013 by shadowofchaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathN'Resolve Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 Yeah, you can, really. They're really tied in all honestly, I just have a slight preference for one other the other. That +1 movement is very helpful. Although that's really for Olivia!Lucina, because Sumia!Lucina has access to both Tomefaire AND Lancefaire, making her a viable Dark Flier support as well. Which brings us back to our topic. Which team, everyone, and offer all critique, save turn everyone magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathN'Resolve Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 Well, considering you're pairing her with Gerome with STR bonus... if she was the frontline attacker, Bow Knight would have a problem dealing with both Ranged and Close Ranged enemies at the same time on the enemy phase, since you'd have to use the Levin Sword for that. You're going into full magic team mode... Though I see where you're coming from. My main problem with bow knight is how tiny their defense/resist is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airship Canon Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Any time you have an incomplete second gen marriage set up [you shouldn't though], the one left out should ALWAYS be Lucina, never any of the other kids. Reason: She has Dual Strike+. This means she can cover the gap in Dual Strike rate caused by using an A-support over an S-- she's equipped for being the forever alone, the rest aren't. She also supports Chrom who could carry the skill instead. Obviously, if you're marrying Tharja, it's due to covering weak areas rather than focusing on strong points. Throw Gerome at your Forever alone [Kjelle], and have Lucina paired with Chrom or MU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathN'Resolve Posted October 25, 2013 Author Share Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) Any time you have an incomplete second gen marriage set up [you shouldn't though], the one left out should ALWAYS be Lucina, never any of the other kids. Reason: She has Dual Strike+. This means she can cover the gap in Dual Strike rate caused by using an A-support over an S-- she's equipped for being the forever alone, the rest aren't. She also supports Chrom who could carry the skill instead. Obviously, if you're marrying Tharja, it's due to covering weak areas rather than focusing on strong points. Throw Gerome at your Forever alone [Kjelle], and have Lucina paired with Chrom or MU. I suppose that makes sense... Most of chrom's spouses are a little subpar for tson....I was thinking Lucina Aether, RK, LB, aegis, Dualstrike Chrom Aether/Luna, rightful king, Dualguard, LB... Aggressor? I recently rethought up some, and lon'qu! Brady dread fighter is prob be supporting great knight kjelle (she needs the resist, speed, and str never hurts) I like her as a great knight because purple is amazing Edited October 25, 2013 by WrathN'Resolve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM ME MARIANNE ART Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Except GK is a really bad class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathN'Resolve Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 Except GK is a really bad class. I disagree completely, as it is my favorite supporting class (low resist, sure, but give resist +10 [really easy to get skill slots for support units] or just pair with a dread fighter and you're gold, personally, I am considering a dual guarding build, and it equates that about half the time, there will be a Dualguard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteor Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Okay then, defensive builds are bad (read: inferior/outclassed). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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