[Battle: FE6] Duck vs. Refa

[Espinosa]

Duck vs. Refa begins!

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Duck's team

vs.

Refa's team!

(2)

Duck goes first. Choose your character, his/her weapon and target.

Edited January 18, 2014 by Espinosa

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And Brave Swords don't exist in this game. How sad.

Then Rutger can use his BRO DAO on Ward

Edited January 17, 2014 by Castle

[Quintessence]

[spoiler=Ward after his battle against Rutger]

Rutger has 44base crt, HOLY SHIT I DUN WANT TO SEE THIS

[Nicolas]

GG.

[Espinosa]

[spoiler=see teams here]

Duck's team

vs.

Refa's team

Turn 1.

vs

Duck's Rutger (Wo Dao) attacks Refa's Ward (Armads)!

7 dmg 100% hit 83% crit

(57 11 74)

Critical hit!

Ward receives 21/60 damage!

Ward counterattacks!

34 dmg 42% hit 0% crit

(91 23 1)

Ward misses!

Rutger attacks again!

(15 78 10)

Critical hit!

Ward receives 21/60 damage!

Both parties survive the fight.

Duck                            Refa

Dieck 60/60                     Roy 52/52
Rutger 59/59                    Allen 56/56
Clarine 34/34                   Lance 53/53
Shin 60/60                      Ward 18/60
Zeiss 60/60                     Lott 60/60

Refa acts next!

Edited January 19, 2014 by Espinosa

[FrostyFireMage]

Lol, Duck has Brokeger, Dodge Master Clarine and Shin while Refa has lolroy and the Axe duo.

This won't be pretty.

[Espinosa]

I actually didn't expect Rutger to deal as little damage as he did, and Ward to have this much hit (he was 2% below the RN limit for connecting an attack here). I think we overestimated the power of the SMs at least a little bit while theorycrafting. Generals should wall SMs all day unless the latter switch to Armorslayers or Durandal.

[SRC]

I actually didn't expect Rutger to deal as little damage as he did, and Ward to have this much hit (he was 2% below the RN limit for connecting an attack here). I think we overestimated the power of the SMs at least a little bit while theorycrafting. Generals should wall SMs all day unless the latter switch to Armorslayers or Durandal.

There's also the whole thing (at least in this case) with a non-crit Durandal doing the same amount of damage as a Wo Dao crit, and a Durandal crit making like the majority of the cast explode.

Edited January 18, 2014 by SRC

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I probably should have used something other than the Bro Dao, I thought it would do more.

[Espinosa]

There's also the whole thing (at least in this case) with a non-crit Durandal doing the same amount of damage as a Wo Dao crit, and a Durandal crit making like the majority of the cast explode.

True, Rutger can maximise his strength via weaponry with higher Mt, but that also weighs him down to where he is doubled by other SMs for example, or Murgleis!Dorothy. Several characters can also begin attacking him with Brave Lance/Maltet in this state without being doubled.

Still a character I wouldn't abstain from running on every team, though.

[PKL]

Rutger has pretty much guaranteed crit. He's not even suspect for banning imo. He's just OP in this environment, low displayed damage or not.

[SRC]

True, Rutger can maximise his strength via weaponry with higher Mt, but that also weighs him down to where he is doubled by other SMs for example, or Murgleis!Dorothy. Several characters can also begin attacking him with Brave Lance/Maltet in this state without being doubled.

Still a character I wouldn't abstain from running on every team, though.

Yeah, there's no doubt something like Murgleis!Dorothy would make mincemeat out of him. I'm mostly making a case for Durandal as Rutger's go to weapon over Wo Dao. Doubling or not, I don't think 40 mt+40 crit is a combination anybody wants to attack into. : P

[Refa]

Ward, hit Clarine with some of that Brave Bow.

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And Rutger has suddenly become a lot less good

[dondon151]

keep in mind that:

1. ward has armads for +5 def

2. rutger should really be using a KE for more damage

3. how does ward have 55 hit on rutger, anyway?

ward has 56 base hit to rutger's 74 base avo (-18 hit differential)

ward has at maximum 20 hit from supports (A allen B lot) while rutger has 20-25 avo from supports (4-5 levels with clarine and deke)

ward has WTD (-10 hit)

armads has 75 base hit

so i'm getting that ward should have 42 or 47 hit, not 55 hit.

Edited January 18, 2014 by dondon151

[Espinosa]

keep in mind that:

1. ward has armads for +5 def

2. rutger should really be using a KE for more damage

3. how does ward have 55 hit on rutger, anyway?

ward has 56 base hit to rutger's 74 base avo (-18 hit differential)

ward has at maximum 20 hit from supports (A allen B lot) while rutger has 20-25 avo from supports (4-5 levels with clarine and deke)

ward has WTD (-10 hit)

armads has 75 base hit

so i'm getting that ward should have 42 or 47 hit, not 55 hit.

Hm, apparently I calculated Rutger's supports wrong because he only has 12 avo for me (I guess I ignored Thunder's +avo boost?). Gonna fix that now.

[Espinosa]

[spoiler=see teams here]

Duck's team

vs.

Refa's team

Turn 2.

vs

Refa's Ward (Brave Bow) attacks Duck's Clarine (Forblaze)!

34x2 dmg 41% hit 0% crit

(62 28 70)

Ward misses!

(51 63 0)

Ward misses!

Clarine counterattacks!

27 dmg 82% hit 15% crit

(63 23 33)

Ward receives 18/60 damage!

Ward is KO'd!

Duck                            Refa

Dieck 60/60                     Roy 52/52
Rutger 59/59                    Allen 56/56
Clarine 34/34                   Lance 53/53
Shin 60/60                      Ward 0/60
Zeiss 60/60                     Lott 60/60

Duck acts next.

Edited January 19, 2014 by Espinosa

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Clarine attacks Lott with Forblaze

[Shadow Mir]

lol Ward

[Espinosa]

[spoiler=see teams here]

Duck's team

vs.

Refa's team

Turn 3.

vs

Duck's Clarine (Forblaze) attacks Refa's Lott (Murgleis)!

21 dmg 74% hit 13% crit

(28 86 72)

Lott receives 21/60 damage!

Lott counterattacks!

29 dmg 16% hit 0% crit

(53 66 0)

Lott misses!

Both parties survive the fight.

Duck                            Refa

Dieck 60/60                     Roy 52/52
Rutger 59/59                    Allen 56/56
Clarine 34/34                   Lance 53/53
Shin 60/60                      Ward 0/60
Zeiss 60/60                     Lott 39/60

Refa acts next.

Edited January 19, 2014 by Espinosa

[Elieson]

Refa should try hitting.something.

[Quintessence]

Dem hits. And Forblaze giving additional Lck.

[Refa]

Fuck my luck (obviously, I'm still going to win). Does Fili Shield negate Murgleis effective bonus? I don't really know, because according to the site it isn't effective against Pegasus/Falconknights.

[dondon151]

murgleis isn't effective against pegs and falcos because it uses the effectiveness pointer for the divine weapons instead of the pointer for bows.

so the delphi shield doesn't protect against murgleis if you're a wyvern lord, for example.

[Refa]

Yeah, I'm doing this Lott attack Zeiss with Murgleis inb4 another double miss fuck Lott.