Knife Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 (edited) Wait, doesn't Mist have the Order of Balance in her? Meaning she leans more towards Ashera? Ashera also claimed that by turning everyone into statues, true peace could occur. Therefore, order is peace. War is chaos. Edited August 31, 2008 by Knife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Wait, doesn't Mist have the Order of Balance in her? Meaning she leans more towards Ashera? Ashera also claimed that by turning everyone into statues, true peace could occur. Therefore, order is peace. War is chaos. Mist and Elena both have balance in them, it's the reason they could hold the medallion without going ballistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibari Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 lol!it may be a theocracy, but the definition of the terms still apply. his title WAS chancellor, after all. he may have ruled with the facade of being chosen by the goddess (which, in a way, he was), but that doesn't make him a priest. *chuckles* That is true. Wait, doesn't Mist have the Order of Balance in her? Meaning she leans more towards Ashera? Ashera also claimed that by turning everyone into statues, true peace could occur. Therefore, order is peace. War is chaos. Mist and Elena both have balance in them, it's the reason they could hold the medallion without going ballistic. Actually I think knife's right. It would make sense because Yune liked talking to Mist because she reminded her of Ashera (Order). And the reason the medallion didn't make Mist go berserk is because the Order in her would balanced out the Chaos in Yune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 If you mean a level between Order and Chaos, every normal Beorc and Laguz is situated right between order and chaos. There are a few exceptions, like Ashnard leaning more towards Chaos and Elena/Mist leaning more towards Order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz Posted August 31, 2008 Author Share Posted August 31, 2008 Wait, doesn't Mist have the Order of Balance in her? Meaning she leans more towards Ashera? Ashera also claimed that by turning everyone into statues, true peace could occur. Therefore, order is peace. War is chaos. Mist is perfectly balanced, as in has both order and balance within her. it was because of this balance that Lehran's medallion couldn't affect her. remember, Yune was able to communicate with her, and she even said that she felt the most comfortable talking to her. If she wouldn't have had Chaos, that would have made her equivalent to the herons, the sprites of order. Yune didn't choose the herons, she chose Mist. Why, I ask myself? because she has both balance and chaos within her, perfectly balanced and besides, that which you say would go against the whole theme of the game, that either chaos or order are bad and that we must achieve balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 It was specifically stated somewhere in one of the games that Mist and Elena are balanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz Posted August 31, 2008 Author Share Posted August 31, 2008 It was specifically stated somewhere in one of the games that Mist and Elena are balanced. it was Volke, if I remember correctly, who said this in PoR, when he revealed the truth to Ike about the medallion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cenzo25 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 it was Volke, if I remember correctly, who said this in PoR, when he revealed the truth to Ike about the medallion. I just got this conversation a while ago in POR. It was indeed Volke saying this. ...Elena looks like a Priestess to me, but hey, what do I know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGV Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 *stares at Mist pic**sees others watching him* *runs* *runs with MaSu* Mist=Elena's daughter Mist=Valkyrie Elena=Valkyrie Math solves everything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canas_and_his_Monocle Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Elena was a bandit for a fair chunk of her life before defeating her alcoholism and learning that whacking people with staffs was fun. Then she met Greil and he killed her. The End True story Either that or I feel silly at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandmanccl Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 She was a person mentioned in a video game that eventually gave birth to a couple other characters in that video game that happen to be main characters and she is not a playable character therefore debating what her class is proves fruitless. So my vote goes to Dracoknight. WHY THE HELL NOT?! D: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Tee hee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xanatha Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 She was a person mentioned in a video game that eventually gave birth to a couple other characters in that video game that happen to be main characters and she is not a playable character therefore debating what her class is proves fruitless.So my vote goes to Dracoknight. WHY THE HELL NOT?! D: That doesn't have to be true. We'll probably never find out the true answer, but that doesn't mean this discussion's pointless. All the fact which everyone here have gathered is leading to the right answer. For example, knowing that she could hold the medallion without being effected proves that she almosthas the same kind of chaos/order spirit as Mist. Which leads to the fact that she was very much like her. Following: she didn't enjoy killing. And that's much like a healer. And since she's holding a kind of heal staff on the picture of her in RD, I don't think there's much of doubt. So, a Dracoknight... I'm not really sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonBladeSniper Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 That doesn't have to be true. We'll probably never find out the true answer, but that doesn't mean this discussion's pointless. All the fact which everyone here have gathered is leading to the right answer. For example, knowing that she could hold the medallion without being effected proves that she almosthas the same kind of chaos/order spirit as Mist. Which leads to the fact that she was very much like her. Following: she didn't enjoy killing. And that's much like a healer. And since she's holding a kind of heal staff on the picture of her in RD, I don't think there's much of doubt.So, a Dracoknight... I'm not really sure. Maybe at day she is a valkyrie but at night... she is... A DRACOKNIGHT FROM BERN!!! *plays her theme song* XD Seriously I don't think she is a dracoknight... I think that she is a bishop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 A Dracoknight healer similar to Elincia would be awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Jam Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Just because Mist used a sword doesn't necessarily mean that her mother did. After all, Mist could have just as easily inherited her swordsmanship from Greil. And remember: Bishops are just as good at killing people with Light magic as Valkyries are at killing people with swords. Anyway, Elena strikes me as a Light Magic user rather than a sword user. I don't know why; she just does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Elena looks more like a Valkirie to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karla Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 *Looks at Laura* *Looks at Elena* *Looks at Mist* I think Elena looks more like a branded Priest. <.>; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 Just because Mist used a sword doesn't necessarily mean that her mother did. After all, Mist could have just as easily inherited her swordsmanship from Greil.And remember: Bishops are just as good at killing people with Light magic as Valkyries are at killing people with swords. Anyway, Elena strikes me as a Light Magic user rather than a sword user. I don't know why; she just does. they DO kill with light magic, but is it their function to kill people? no. they preach peace, not war. VALKYRIES, however, are the deities who would choose which soldiers would live and which would die in a battle at least in the mythological sense, and a whole bunch of other things. Bishops=order, stability, peace Valkyries= balance. they dish out both life and death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xanatha Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 they DO kill with light magic, but is it their function to kill people? no. they preach peace, not war.VALKYRIES, however, are the deities who would choose which soldiers would live and which would die in a battle at least in the mythological sense, and a whole bunch of other things. Bishops=order, stability, peace Valkyries= balance. they dish out both life and death. So you are saying that Elena is a Bishop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 So you are saying that Elena is a Bishop? No. The whole point of the post is that valkyries represent balance, so Elena having been a valkyrie is the most likely scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xanatha Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 No. The whole point of the post is that valkyries represent balance, so Elena having been a valkyrie is the most likely scenario. But earlier many agreed that she must have the spirit of order in her, and so I get the feeling that bishops are more of that kind: Bishops=order, stability, peace Valkyries= balance. they dish out both life and death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 But earlier many agreed that she must have the spirit of order in her, and so I get the feeling that bishops are more of that kind:Bishops=order, stability, peace Valkyries= balance. they dish out both life and death. It was specifically stated in the game that Elena and Mist both have balance in them which is why they are able to safely hold Lehran's Medallion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xanatha Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 It was specifically stated in the game that Elena and Mist both have balance in them which is why they are able to safely hold Lehran's Medallion. So I misunderstood Psyche Ridell Crimea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz Posted September 3, 2008 Author Share Posted September 3, 2008 So I misunderstood Psyche Ridell Crimea? i have pretty much said what Fox is saying. valkyries represent "BALANCE" because they as in the mythological sense dish out both life and death. Bishops represent order, and as such, THEY ARE NOT BALANCED. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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