Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 RUTGER VS. FIR MALE VS. FEMALE RED VS. GREEN COOL(looking) VS. CUTE(looking) HEAVEN OR HELL DUEL ONE LETS TALK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Fir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Like the intro Anyway, I choose Fir because she always capped strenght, speed, and skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted September 7, 2008 Author Share Posted September 7, 2008 Anyway, I choose Fir because she always capped strenght, speed, and skill. So does Rutger. Not only that, but he gains HM Bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 So does Rutger. Not only that, but he gains HM Bonus. They both are good, but I still prefer Fir. She always seems to have better resistence aganist magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I prefer Fir, because I didn't use Rutger in my one playthrough and she has a ponytail! She's also Karla's daughter, and I liked Karla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted September 7, 2008 Author Share Posted September 7, 2008 Both are good? lol If I recall Fir can maxed 22/22 Str cap at a Lv. 20/20 Swordmaster whereas Rutger can maxed out 24/24 Str cap at Lv. 20/20 Swordmaster with the HM bonus. Were talking about high Str caps. And it seems to me that Rutger seems to have much better advantage over Fir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 (edited) Both are good? lol If I recall Fir can maxed 22/22 Str cap at a Lv. 20/20 Swordmaster whereas Rutger can maxed out 24/24 Str cap at Lv. 20/20 Swordmaster with the HM bonus. Were talking about high Str caps. And it seems to me that Rutger seems to have much better advantage over Fir. Because everyone is very likely to reach 20/20 in this game, right? Edited September 7, 2008 by Fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Both are good? lol If I recall Fir can maxed 22/22 Str cap at a Lv. 20/20 Swordmaster whereas Rutger can maxed out 24/24 Str cap at Lv. 20/20 Swordmaster with the HM bonus. Were talking about high Str caps. And it seems to me that Rutger seems to have much better advantage over Fir. The only advantage I think Rutger has over Fir is, he has better defense and comes early in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oguma Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Ima gonna say Fir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 To be honest, the only reason I always choose Fir because hot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I level them both a little bit and pick whoever the RNG favors. They're completely interchangeable in my book. Not only that, but he gains HM Bonus. So does Fir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted September 7, 2008 Author Share Posted September 7, 2008 Because everyone is very likely to reach 20/20 in this game, right? The only advantage I think Rutger has over Fir is, he has better defense and comes early in the game. Of course Fir might not reach @ Lv. 20/20 by the time you recruit Rutger. Even if they're both Lv. 20/20 SM Rutger still owns. Of course Rutger has really good support options with Dieck, Clarine[sarcasm/], or Fir[Double Sarcasm/]. Making both Clarine and Fir being Rutger's personal bitch. Whereas Fir has only good support options with Noah other than that. Thats it. Rutger comes at Level 5 with the HM bonus with good base stats and you get him around the first part of the game when he's much easier to train. While Fir comes at Level 1 and shes like what? 5 chapters after Rutger's recruitment. Despite her having HM bonus, hes quite hard to train as Lilina, Wendy, and of course Sophia. Meaning she requires tons of babying in order to get her worthwhile when Rutger don't. Speed loss don't matter in this game. But they determine who is better has better speed do to their Cons. Rutger has 8 Con whereas Fir has 6 both at a Swordmaster. When giving either one of them Durandal both units lose a slight Speed. Even when loses -4 Speed from carrying Durandal Rutger STILL has better speed than Fir -6. Fir is good but Rutger is much better so Rutger>Fir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowAreYaBud Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Fir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Of course Fir might not reach @ Lv. 20/20 by the time you recruit Rutger. Even if they're both Lv. 20/20 SM Rutger still owns. Of course Rutger has really good support options with Dieck, Clarine[sarcasm/], or Fir[Double Sarcasm/]. Making both Clarine and Fir being Rutger's personal bitch. Whereas Fir has only good support options with Noah other than that. Thats it. Rutger comes at Level 5 with the HM bonus with good base stats and you get him around the first part of the game when he's much easier to train. While Fir comes at Level 1 and shes like what? 5 chapters after Rutger's recruitment. Despite her having HM bonus, hes quite hard to train as Lilina, Wendy, and of course Sophia. Meaning she requires tons of babying in order to get her worthwhile when Rutger don't. Speed loss don't matter in this game. But they determine who is better has better speed do to their Cons. Rutger has 8 Con whereas Fir has 6 both at a Swordmaster. When giving either one of them Durandal both units lose a slight Speed. Even when loses -4 Speed from carrying Durandal Rutger STILL has better speed than Fir -6. Fir is good but Rutger is much better so Rutger>Fir. That was pretty much all I understood clearly. lern2grammer And Fir doesn't require much babying; she comes in early enough so that it isn't a big issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Your right that Rutger does not need much babysitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted September 7, 2008 Author Share Posted September 7, 2008 That was pretty much all I understood clearly. lern2grammer Theres nothing wrong with what I've said. It's just you since its obvious that you don't get my point. And Fir doesn't require much babying; she comes in early enough so that it isn't a big issue. Once again, you recruit her half-way part of the game and she starts out at Lv. 1 on HM. She's definitely needs babying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 lern2grammer Learn to spell first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Theres nothing wrong with what I've said. It's just you since its obvious that you don't get my point. I get your point, I think. It's hard to tell. Learn to spell first ....This is sarcasm, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 ....This is sarcasm, correct? Yeah I was joking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted September 7, 2008 Author Share Posted September 7, 2008 You don't hang out in debate forums do you? <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 You don't hang out in debate forums do you? <_< No. That isn't what matters, though. In fact, it has nothing to do with this. Your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Lets just get back to the debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted September 7, 2008 Author Share Posted September 7, 2008 I get your point, I think. It's hard to tell. This. <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Once again, you recruit her half-way part of the game and she starts out at Lv. 1 on HM. She's definitely needs babying. Though she is Lv.1, she does seem to manage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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