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  1. 1. Should I take Karel to final?

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Thoroughly enjoying this, as unpleasant as it looks.

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The first of many enemy physicians.

(Physician is definitely the proper term for a psysic user. Think about it.)

I don't know why, but the second part made this way funnier.

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The cav got sick of attacking Merlinus and moved on to Clarine, but she’s as dodgy as Roy

Every time someone uses dodgy in this context, I laugh a little.
Best of luck wit the future chapters, and looking forward to reading the rest.
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Thanks very much to everyone who's following this; it's more fun to do knowing that people are enjoying reading my progress.

[spoiler=Chapter 8]

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i.e. I’m getting two lovely specimens thrown into my army very shortly

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This game has been hyping Lilina up so much that you’d think getting to her was endgame

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Nope

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I’m really glad that not one but two thieves just kinda show up offscreen and join your army at the start of chapters in this game. Then the third has the most complicated join condition in the game.

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There’s not really much to do other than to move up through the hall in orgy formation

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Level ups right away. Strength and Speed are both good stats, but I wish they were more substantial.

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Roy joins in on the leveling and fails to proc both speed and strength yet again. At least he’s Skill and Luck blessed?

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Shitty levels for everyone!

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The orgy advances

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Figured I might want these for later

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Suddenly: the rest of the armour crew, plus orange juice.

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Why? Just why?

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I’ve been skipping most of the mob shots, so here’s some archers plinking a soldier. Dorothy can’t KO even with the double because she’s kind of awful.

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I set Barth up so he’d counter them both with Wendy’s Javelin and then the AI does this to me

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Barth starts things off well.

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The only rigging I do this chapter is for Wendy hits because she definitely needs it

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Mopping up the rest of the north enemies

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Presents for Barth

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I haven’t been bothering to show most of the healer levels because they’ve mostly been this kind of thing

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A touching family reunion. You can definitely see the resemblance.

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She clearly hasn’t looked at her own stats

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I’m glad this patch uses “Use” instead of “Cnt”. I still no idea what that stood for. Count? Con…tume? It definitely didn’t stand for what I always read it as.

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Bait time

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I didn’t want to have to deal with this mage in the hall of lancers

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Who needs stats other than Str anyway?

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Maybe all of Wendy’s levels will be like this and she’ll be MVP of the run. Then who’ll be laughing?

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And maybe my entire army’s levels will be like this one forever and I’ll never make it past chapter 14.

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Slowly making progress.

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Phat loot in varying degrees of usefulness.

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I accidentally left Saul in this guy’s range, but he’s hitting Res on a priest, so…

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2/3

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This will make a certain archer significantly more useful

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Feeding Wendy forever

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Hugh will appreciate this someday

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I’m leaving Bors and Dorothy behind to take care of the reinforcements from up top, the rest of the fighters go around toward the throne room

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Barth knows what’s up

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Wendy doesn’t get doubled by this guy, so I have her back-and-forth him a few times

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So much for the god Wendy theory

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At least they’re pulling their (substantial) weight

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FFFFFFFFFF

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This guy would have killed Wendy if he cooperated with an archer, but Roy pulled off a crit for exact damage

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He has not missed a hammer hit yet this chapter

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Enemy crit for 0. Nice try, dude.

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Bors still walling it up in the chest room. Not that he’s really the best wall, he’s only procced Def once. He’s hella Str blessed, though.

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Oh hey, Armorslayers. Luckily they can’t double and only one can hit him per turn.

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Are you kidding me? Again?

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I’m cursed. It’s the only explanation.

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Déjà vu

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Good riddance

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I’m trying to get him to A staves eventually, so I’m spamming heals on everything

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Reminder that soldiers in FE6 are the literal worst enemies

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Have I ever mentioned how much I love 40% growths?

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I kinda wish I’d missed these Hammer shots; I’d like to save it for later

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Wade’s the only one who understands me

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I’m just gonna surround myself with manly blue guys and everyting’ll be okay

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The reinforcements are finally done, so Marcus grabs Bors and books it. Apparently he’s got just enough Aid to rescue him.

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Cleaning up the throne room

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Nothing is overkill

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Plinks him down to a very convenient 30 hp

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YES

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HELL YES

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It’s the power of friendship.

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(He’s got unique Bors dialogue too, but it kinda didn’t fit in with the mood up there)

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Before I go…

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That could’ve gone worse.

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“That’s why I’ve got a piss poor Spd growth.”

Also, I figured I’d do a stats roundup, to see how my units are fairing with regards to their averages. I coloured the stats based on whether they were more than 2 from their average: blue for blessed and red for screwed. I didn't bother with the healers, thieves, or Marcus, since they don't really matter.

[spoiler=Stats]

Lv HP SM Sk Sd Lk Df Rs

Roy 17 31 7 16 11 20 7 3

Bors 16 31 16 7 8 12 12 1

Wade 17 41 18 11 8 10 10 1

Wolt 13 30 9 9 11 8 7 2

Dorothy 11 27 10 10 9 5 4 2

Wendy 5 30 5 3 5 8 8 1

Barth 11 27 11 8 6 2 16 1

Wendy and Barth haven't levelled enough to really see a difference yet, and I didn't count Wade and Wendy as being blessed in stats I used boosters in. I'm surprised that both the archers are floating pretty close to their averages; I thought mine were just turning out particularly shitty.

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This run is amazing, my friend. Will Ellen ever gain a point of magic? Will Wolt, Ward, Bors, and Roy continue to hold the team? Will Dorothy continue to gain strength? Find out in the next epic chapter of Dragonball Z FE6 HM: Crappy Units Bonanza!

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Holy cow, I forgot the Triangle Attack even existed for the 3 knights. That greatly simplifies a lot of really annoying enemies haha.

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Okay, real talk here. Is Lilina/Relena actually a real name or is just something that Japanese people made up and for some reason think is a name that European noble girls have? ‘Cause I’ve seen three of them and can’t find evidence of it being a real name.

There's a recent trend in Japan (the last 20 years or so) of giving children names that are Japanese names in theory but which are either based on actual English names or sound feasible as English names. Lily is a popular name in Japan (well, "Riri" I guess) and "na" is a common ending for girls' names, so from a Japanese viewpoint "Lilina" is a name that sounds both Japanese/relatable and English.

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If you can, you should totally chance the topic title to this.

Deal, my title was pretty uninspired anyway.

Also, here's 8x! It’s not a very exciting chapter, since it’s pretty much just plodding my army through a hallway, but a few exciting things happen along the way.

[spoiler=Chapter 8x]

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It doesn’t matter how many legendary weapons I get, Roy’s army is never going to be equal

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The crew. I benched 1 Mag Elen and Merlinus because neither of them can actually do anything.

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Title drop for the wrong game

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This guy exists solely to pop in every third chapter and stutter the word ‘Boss.’ Also to look beautiful.

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“That’s why I’m gonna ditch and run around the continent with you.”

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Splittin’ up, like usual

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I think everyone I’ve got doubles the Steel Axers in this chapter.

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Barth best tank

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Wade’s a one man army

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Wendy is not

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The armours take the bottom. The enemies are pretty crappy in this level, so only Wendy really gains substantial experience.

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Therefore, operation feed Wendy everything is still a go

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Thank goodness that was a Halberd and not a Hammer. Fortunately, since I get no cavs, I never really have to care about Halberds

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These are not FE6 enemy stats. I think I must have fallen into 8.

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He’s fine

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Teamwork

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Damnit Wendy. She didn’t even proc her 85% HP growth.

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This is her punishment

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Only one of these stats really matters, but after that Wendy level this looks beautiful

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Killstolen by the terrain. Wade really wanted that 5 exp.

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There we go

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…and, Warrior. Dem promo gains.

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Time to start working on his bow level. I’d like to get D, at the very least.

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Underwhelming combat montage as I finish off the bottom path

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I don’t think even this makes up for her last 4 levels

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Supports! Marcus is about to get benched, but Wolt can’t support anyone else anyway, so I might as well let Marcus shoot his hopes and dreams down.

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Brought the whole group up together

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Also: promotion number 2!

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Building up his axe rank. I can think of a few enemies that I’d appreciate a Hammer triangle Attack on. :P

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I really hope Barth keeps having good levels. Someone’s gotta hold things together.

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I wanted to chip for another Wendy kill, but then he got a crit. I guess I should have expected it, what with the Rapier and Wolt’s support and all.

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More supports. It’s pretty generic.

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…And, another one. It’s nice that the armours all support each other, since they’re all going to be lumped together for pretty much the whole game.

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Supports forever. This one was pretty funny.

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Psh, crit me if you want

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Maybe don’t crit Wendy, though

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I am once again taking this chapter ludicrously slowly. It’s to feed the kills this time, though, not because things are too much for my failures

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It was this or have him do the same thing to Wendy

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Not bad, not bad. She failed her HP proc again, though, which definitely shouldn’t happen twice in a chapter.

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General axe attacks are the best

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Baiting the Fighters in the throne room with Wade. The Mage doesn’t move.

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He only ever crits when he’d kill them anyway.

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Henning is sick of his bandit brigade being so much shittier than he is.

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I wanted to counter him and then take him out on the next turn, but he switched to the hand axe since it let him double for 1 more damage. :S

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*grump grump*

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Not a crit, but I’ll take it.

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He switched back to the Steel Blade to counter Wade

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Dorothy finishes things off with a shitty level.

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Durandal time

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*Insert penis joke here*

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You’ve already proven that you deserve none of my confidence

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Nope

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It feels more like he’s inviting her to meet his friends from school.

Also, I'm adding a poll. Do y'all think I should be allowed to use Lalum, or not? On one hand, she doesn't actually fight, but on the other, she's way higher tier.

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Why would you even consider using her in the first place?

I've seen other people use her in challenge runs, and since she doesn't actually fight, she won't improve my combat by a ton. Plus, I'm always really lax with dancers and forget about them, so she'd mostly just be a little boost rather than a run changer.

If you don't think that I should use her, just vote no.

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It's all well and good, but how do you see yourself using Lalum, considering the use of a dancer is almost completely to speed up chapters, not making clears possible. Taking a dancer in your case would be akin to taking on dead weight, or be a novelty.

Also, it's not in the spirit of this run, so there's that.

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It’s off to the Western Isles, hooray!

[spoiler=Chapter 9]

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This was his goal all along

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The “Lycian Army” being the guys I already had with me and literally no one else

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Scene change

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I might possibly have completely forgotten I need Sue the first time I tried this chapter

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More like ‘The Fog of War-y Isles’

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You are the wrong generic bandit

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You’re both the princess of the enemy and a non-combatant, why the hell would you be allowed to come along?

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This chapter is pretty much just a ton of chokepoints

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The Western Isles are like, six times more fun when your only sword unit is 7 Str Roy.

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What’s the point in telling me which character to deploy for the chapter if it happens on turn 2?

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Silly Scott, enemies don’t drop items in FE6.

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Time to move off the starting island

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Triangle attack on a mook. You can see the Hand Axe that Bors threw and I think that’s fantastic.

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Wendy level. She needs all these stats, but I’d kinda like it if she could break double digits in something.

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Chokepoint number 2. Time to bait Fir.

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Bait successful

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I’m assuming there’s supposed to be emphasis on the ‘is’, but it’s more fun to pretend that he just runs up and starts spouting off broken English at her.

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I couldn’t get her far enough away, so she ended up taking Shin’s shot

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Barth getting a Bors level

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“Please, come join me on the bench”

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Apparently Generals have a unique close range axe animation during Triangle Attacks. Neat!

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Only 2 stats, but both good ones, so I’m cool with this

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Skill’s nice for axes, but still…

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I was trying to send Bors down there, but he’s kinda only got 5 move, so if didn’t go so well. It was only a Silver Sword anyway, so it’s no big loss, especially with this team.

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The Pirates have discovered that they can go around the island. Thus begins my twenty turn crusade against pirate reinforcements.

(Seriously, I’ve got over 100 screenshots of just fighting pirates, so I’m just gonna show the levels because nobody wants to look at the same shot of Wendy missing a pirate with a Hand Axe fifteen times)

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At least there’s Res this time

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Guh

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Not guh!

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The Dorothy level

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The everyone level

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Beautiful

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Wow, that went so smoothly and fast, it’s definitely not turn 26 now!

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Roy takes down the abomination guarding the castle

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Oh gee, never saw that level before

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Meanwhile, the Archers take out the guys by the villages.

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I’m always super paranoid that I mixed up the villages somehow and end up checking 5 times to make sure

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I always expect Scott to talk like the other guys with his haircut. It’s kind of disappointing.

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I’m so glad Wade’s finally got a Weapon that can actually hit bosses

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I never want to see another pirate that isn’t named after birds again.

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They’re making this out like it’s a mystery, but the plot’s been force feeding us the answer in like, every line of dialogue. It goes King isn’t working > Advisor’s calling the shots > Advisor sends Lycia to Islands > Pirates expecting Lycia > Overworked miners > Advisor owns mines > MYSTERY WHAT’S GOING ON

Also, it looks like the majority is fine with Lalum being around, so I’ll be deploying her with my army. She’ll mostly just be giving the armours a chance to not be stuck in the back all the time, and I won’t deploy her over an actual unit in chapters with low recruitment slots, but she’ll be nice to have around every now and then.

Also, since the desert’s coming up fairly soon, new poll!

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Hey, Roy is an amazing unit. He is really saving the team. Nothing happens without him.

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Here’s chapter 10! Things go a lot faster than last time.

[spoiler=Chapter 10]

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Roy should have learned long ago that literally nothing is going to go his way and that every castle is out to kill him.

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The crew for this chapter. Guess who forgot Lilina the first time and had to redo half the chapter?

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These are pretty hard to caption, honestly, but I feel like there’s some unwritten screenshot LP rule that states you’ve always gotta include them.

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Return of the generic shaman boss creeplord

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This is Merlinus’ character development.

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You heard the kid

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Bors starts things off well.

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Turtling is pretty much all this army’s good at

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Well, turtling and missing.

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At least everyone’s got decent poke damage

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Chipping with the Light Brand because I’ve just been holding on to it. It’s a shame that by the time you get it in the other games it’s essentially useless.

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Wolt renders the chip useless

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Wade and Bors are pretty much carrying this whole army

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No enemy can resist the allure of an exposed bow user

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Axes to the face

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Finally breaking into some double digit stats at promotable level. Note how she missed the three stats she wanted.

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Barth, on the other hand, knows how to get a 4 stat level.

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Barth has enough def that enemies ignore him now, so I can just stick him in the fray and he’s always fine.

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Speed and Resistance is a fantastic level

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The top’s cleared up just in time for Geese. The first time I tried the chapter I was too slow and he blew Brave Axe uses on a fighter that Roy was trying to injure.

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Please, this army could desperately use some more muscle

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This is not muscle. His stat total is only two higher than Wendy’s.

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5 Res Bors is my anti-mage. Siege tomes are going to be a party.

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Dick.

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Bors holds off the entire enemy force while Geesus walks over to the village before Gonzales can get there.

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They don’t last long

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Enter the ballista

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I like that the pirates in this chapter are “Robbers”

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Nope

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I feel like Geese should have gotten unique dialogue out of this village, seeing as he just had a sad farewell like, three turns ago.

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Wade just kinda chills up here working on his bow rank for the rest of the chapter

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Bors gets more Spd. The Skl will be nice now that he’s an axeman, too.

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There were like, three other targets in his range who would have taken damage, so I have no idea what went on here.

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And… exit ballista.

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Barth’s regular level. Who needs speed when you’ve got 16 Str and 18 Def?

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Wendy’s level is less justifiable. I’m almost wishing I’d taken the B route; the Energy Ring is probably more useful than slightly earlier Geese.

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Dorothy baits Gonzales up

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Wade hits D bows. Bye bye, Wyverns.

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Poor Gonzales T_T

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Poor me, for not getting to use Gonzales. Geese only wins in Skill and Luck, and only minorly.

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This chapter doesn’t really put up much of a fight, enemy-wise.

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Geese gets his first kill

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Fighters spawn down at the bottom of the map; Bors tanks while Geese chips for exp

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This is not a flattering angle

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Supports! I’ve been trying to get Barth-Bors, but apparently Wendy wasn’t going to wait. I want Bors-Wendy A for the attack, so this is gonna be the last these two get to talk. Not gonna lie, it’s a pretty shitty convo anyway.

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Wolt would like to remind everybody that he is both still here and still underwhelming

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Welp.

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Bors got C axes out of this one, but I missed the cap. At this rate, he’ll get double S ranks.

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Wendy’s only saving grace is triangle attacks

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Finishing off the last of the mooks

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(I haven’t been showing healer levels, but my Saul is getting way nicer levels than my actual units)

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Bors is not taking this guy out any time soon

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Therefore: bosskiller Wade

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I wanted to feed the last hit to an unpromoted unit, but he got a 3% crit.

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It was nice playing a chapter that didn’t feel like it took twenty turns more than it should have

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STILL A MYSTERY

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jk, Lalum explains everything

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Maybe Roy can actually do something with this?

With regards to the poll, I don’t know whether I’m more surprised that it’s so even or that Wendy doesn’t have any votes.

Also, I’ve got family in town from across the country this week, so I might not be able to keep up with doing an update a day.

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This is not a flattering angle

I laughed at this way more than I should have.

In any case, I think the poll just defaulted any voter on either Bors or Barth, depending on what they voted in the last poll. For example, mine was defaulted to Bors since I picked the first option in the last one, etc. It's easy to change your vote, yes, but it might distort the actual spread of the votes a bit.

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Here’s chapter 11! This one was the second chapter I had to restart, and I had to do it twice. Getting all three promotion items at the end plus Echidna was quite possibly more trouble than it was worth. Turns out that optimal strats don’t really work when you’ve only got 1 unit with more than 11 Spd and no mounted units.

[spoiler=Chapter 11]

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Roy does not accept Lalum’s solution to the mystery

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Not gonna lie, I know he’s supposed to be an evil monster bishop, but he’s kinda cute

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Apparently that’s Echidna.

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Milady cameo

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Y’all had better hurry up, then

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“Let’s interrupt them unpleasantly!”

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Okay, so I had to do this three times to figure out a way to make things work, AI manipulation wise, and that was to send my shitty units south and Wade, Barth, Lalum, and Saul north. I need Lalum north to make it to the boss to kill him before he can summon brigands to take out the villages, and I need enough units south to be able to make it far enough to aggro Klain’s squad to the south group, otherwise they move up on top of Echidna when she spawns.

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"Hi, I'm Gale, I'm not a unit but here's my backstory, please care about me for some reason"

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This is a devil axe shot. I’m honestly a little disappointed I didn’t get to see it backfire.

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Wendy procs strength. I don’t care that it’s pretty much the shittiest Str level possible, this level is great.

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I went hyper aggressive on the south enemies because I was scared Klain was gonna foil all of my plans again.

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Lalum had to make a few clutch dodges. I also totally forgot that she gets special combat music, it’s a nice touch, though not as cool as the FE4 version.

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These Shamans are a huge pain in the ass, jsyk

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Wendy still needs tons of help to hurt anything at all

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Barth gets the same level every time. He got Spd at least once in one of my failed attempts, too. :S

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*Edward joke*

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I feel like all his growths tanked when Bors promoted

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This guy was in the way of the boss and I had one more turn to make it to him, so I had to pull out the big guns since you can’t double anything with 11 Spd.

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Ffffffff

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I don’t think I ever really acknowledged before that units grow from the spot that they were on the map when they transition into combat. It’s kinda neat.

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Killer bows everywhere

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SPEED

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Geese also had way better levels in my first attempts. He honestly feels more like a second Wendy than a useful unit.

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Last turn to take him out before Brigands

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Also: Klain spawns now.

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Alsoalso: I suck at positioning. Fortunately, it’s FE6 and he’s got an axe.

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First village, and it’s a good one

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Okay, so he's kind of a jerk.

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Don't blame me, blame yourself or God.

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At first, Klain was my least favourite name change in the patch, but then I looked up the kana and saw that his name is actually pronounced “Klane” instead of “Kline” and now I just think he has a stupid name in general.

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<_<

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The enemies are pretty much gone now, so Wolt chips away at the guy by the southern villages while the others try and break down the wall to get at him

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I’m glad you don’t actually miss out on this by going the girl route

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Something about generic peg girl seems… off, and I can’t put my finger on what it is.

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Bors best tank

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Echidna spawns. These fighters wreck her on hard mode, though she has 1 HP left if she dodges one of them.

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Or if they attack the Klain squad

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Here’re the other two’s attacks

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Not taking chances when I’m this close

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Walls are the best target practice

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Objective 3: complete

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Roy is apparently the most attractive target

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Hero of the West, liberating people of their valuables

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And that’s Tate down

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Monies

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Gooses whyyyy

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All of these are going to Sophia

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Nifty

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Yussss

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So, it turns out that killing Orlo doesn’t actually stop the brigand reinforcements, it just cancels out the first batch

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Don’t need this

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My archers have fallen off really hard at this point, so this’ll really help. They’re both close to leveling, though, so I’m gonna wait until next chapter

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Wendy barely got into this guy’s range to stop him from taking out the last village. I’d have raged.

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That’s Hugh right there.

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That one’s Douglas.

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Now to seize before Wendy bites the dust

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I like how he’s kinda creeping outside the frame

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GASP

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I feel so blindsided. What a plot twist.

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“We can’t go back without Cath!”

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And by join, he means sit around as an NPC with a role that I completely forget about within a chapter of him existing.

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Booyaka

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TRIPLE STAT BOOSTERS OF GREAT JUSTICE!

Nicely done! I'll yell at Geese for you, if you don't mind. His Sexiness is not being very sexy right now.

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Since none of the Pegs or Nomads are in low/utter garbage you'll get illia and get stuck with Yuno who is even worse then Dayan.... At least she can fly....

Next chapter will be another challenge since it's TIME BASED!

yay.

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Here’s 12! I like that the game gives you easy castle chapters after brutal outdoors ones.

[spoiler=Chapter 12]

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This was not a particularly interesting preamble

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Not the boss

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The crew. It’s nice finally having a sizeable amount of units to work with.

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I’m not sure whether this refers to finally fighting dragons or the fact that Bern was behind things all along.

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He’s shocked because the dude just flew his wyvern up the stairs

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Y’all need to raise your expectations

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Dude, your mom could most likely do that. In fact, I don’t know what the required blood ratio is, buy you could quite possibly do that.

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First thing’s first: this guy’s gotta die.

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Wolt gets a pretty nice level. He hit 100 on the nose, too.

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I forgot to take shots of the map here, but my army’s divided into pretty much the same teams as last time, except Astore is with team competent over on the right.

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Also not the boss

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No big, no big

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This is the crappiest enemy phase.

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This guy has a Mend, which would have stopped me from KOing the Shaman again. Instead he physics from three squares away

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Good riddance

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I’ve been waiting for her to level so that I can promote her.

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Thank you.

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Useful again.

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“Don’t worry guys, I’ve got an effective weapon!”

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Pretend Dorothy’s already a Sniper.

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Wendy can’t even double the Eclipse guy

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This is pretty much useless

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Promotion did wonders for Dorothy. All she really needed was a few more speed

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:S

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These chests are garbage

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Something I thought I’d never see: FE6 Eclipse with a nonzero hitrate! He still missed, obviously.

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Things would be going way more smoothly if I could actually hit anything.

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Now there’s the kind of loot I want to see.

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I left Wendy behind to take care of this guy and she’s just so, so bad.

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Since he promoted, Wade’s pretty much been a Sniper.

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The other chests. These might as well be the same item.

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How the hell did Cath even get here? She’s a little girl from like, half a continent away. It’s one thing if she shows up in Lycia, it’s a totally different thing for her to suddenly be in the Western Isles.

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Roy saves the day, somehow

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His last level, and even though it’s a good one, it’s too little too late.

Seriously, has anyone ever had a Roy this awful before?

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Wendy won’t let Roy upstage her

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I didn’t know what Cath’s AI would do when there was nothing left to unlock, so I just kinda boxed her in. Thinking about it now though, there was still the boss door right by Roy for her to run to. -_-

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I am so glad my Snipers aren’t dead weight anymore, even if they do still get weighed down my steels.

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I should probably get a move on before they catch up to me

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Onward!

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They sleeped… my Restore user…

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Yeah, die in a hole

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3/3.

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I finally get to use a unit with Hard Mode bonuses!!!!11!!1

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This is a pretty sick boss quite, tbh

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Plink

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More recruitment. Who needs this guy anyway? I’m gonna get me a real Shaman pretty soon.

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Plink level

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I wasn’t paying attention and the reinforcements caught up to me

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Devil Axe crits are brutal.

(Also, this is the second boss since I got the three armours that the boss hasn’t had walls on either side of him)

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Bors the boss

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I am the best at positioning

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Fortunately, thieves vs axes is not much of a threat.

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Easy peasy

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Pshh, says you

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Armads time

Also, I’m gonna make a tiebreaker poll for the boots. Hopefully this one involves fewer shenanigans with the votes being already registered for people.

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