MRDRHAWK Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 can I just say that I am absolutely ecstatic that the Ice Climbers were left out of SSB4 they were a neat concept executed horribly in every way like, IMO they were super slow and clunky when that was probably not the intent unlike with certain others (like Ganondorf) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyFireMage Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 The only cut I'm sour about is Lucas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Isaac being cut fully would be a bummer, though. I haven't played GS, but it sounds like a cool and notable series. they're fantastic games. i'm sad and disappointed there's no snake. i am confused that there's no ice climbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingddd Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) Gema_yue unlocked ROB and here it is. The same message appeared. Update: All Star Mode has no lock anymore. Edited September 11, 2014 by kingddd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Kamina Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) I am very satisfied with the roster. Sad that Snake's gone, but it was to be expected. The removal of the chain grab would have nerfed the ICs to hell and while I feel bad for the people who liked them, I'm not disappointed with their removal. Edited September 11, 2014 by Shulk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randoman Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) I have to say, I'm really wanting to try out and main Duck Hunt Dog. I've always had a soft spot for retro characters whose series has stayed dead for decades, and even as a kid I always found the Dog way more funny than annoying. I'd even play Duck Hunt every now and then despite not even having the Zapper just to see the laugh. Does anyone here believe that there might be like, console exclusives for Wii U? i'm interested in anyones opinion I'm thinking and hoping so. I mean, if Sakurai has been putting that much work into the Ice Climbers and (if Gematsu was outdated rather than wrong) Chrous Men, I should hope that he'd come to the conclusion that it'd make more sense to make then Wii U exclusive if they didn't work on the 3DS, rather than throw away hours/days/weeks of work trying to implement them and throw away all that work for nothing. And before anyone says "Sakurai's keeping the Wii U and 3DS rosters exactly the same," keep in mind the Official SSB4 site and the April Direct emphasize that anything regarding SSB4 is tentative subject to change, and may not be final. And due to Sakurai obviously putting in a lot of effort into the Ice Climbers and trying to work them into the 3DS version, I should hope he's not going to scrap all that work completely. can I just say that I am absolutely ecstatic that the Ice Climbers were left out of SSB4they were a neat concept executed horribly in every waylike, IMO they were super slow and clunky when that was probably not the intent unlike with certain others (like Ganondorf) Well, that's just unreasonable. If it was a matter of you hating the Ice Climbers as a character, finding them redundant (like Toon Link or Dark Pit, but Ice Climbers are far from being like those two), or them sticking out like a sore thumb among the Nintendo cast (*cough*Snake*cough*) that'd be understandable. But enjoying them being cut just because you didn't like their play style or it didn't click with you? By that logic, a lot of people should be hoping like crazy that regular Link is never playable in future Smash games due to competitive players and a good chunk of people finding his playstyle bad (less so in Melee, though). i'm sad and disappointed there's no snake. i am confused that there's no ice climbers. To me, people being upset about Snake's cut is as ridiculous as people complaining about no Darth Vader or Yoda in Soul Calibur V. I mean, those three are guest characters that stick out like sore thumbs among the cast that they were guests of. They should consider themselves lucky that Snake was even in a Smash game (especially considering most would say there are tons of 3rd parties that have supported Nintendo better and deserve to be in Smash more), and shouldn't treat him like he's some sort of staple to Smash and that his exclusion to SSB4 is a crime. Edited September 11, 2014 by Randoman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I always figured the 3DS version release might not be the end of it: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=129524882&postcount=14153 Either that old 4chan leak is still real, or some people are out there are really trying to milk this for all it's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alertcircuit Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) can I just say that I am absolutely ecstatic that the Ice Climbers were left out of SSB4 they were a neat concept executed horribly in every way like, IMO they were super slow and clunky when that was probably not the intent unlike with certain others (like Ganondorf) It's very possible Sakurai just cut them because he didn't personally think they were all that fun anymore. If he said 3DS version didn't hinder the Wii U version maybe he just didn't plan to put them in anyway. Why Lucas and Wolf and Snake are cut doesn't need much explanation. I'm almost fully satisfied with the roster. I initially wanted Ridley and Mewtwo and a Rhythm Heaven dude and hell even Dixie, but the newcomers we did get are super cool and way make up for it imo. Duck Hunt Dog? Heck yeah! Palutena? You don't even have to ask! All the newcomers are super cool and play uniquely (besides maybe the clones) but also seem fun. And that's all I really care about. Sucks to those who wanted more, but hey I couldn't ask for more. If the Wii U connectivity thing is true, that's even cooler. I hope they let you use it to other people's copies of Smash U, since I can't really afford a Wii U. Edited September 11, 2014 by Alertcircuit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinigo Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Do we know what the Wii U functionality on the 3DS game does for that matter? I don't want to get my hopes up on a slim chance like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Gema_yue unlocked ROB and here it is. The same message appeared. Update: All Star Mode has no lock anymore. This one says that all assist trophies are unlocked. Is there a list of all assist trophies? Well, I don't really care for a list, but I want to have confirmed whether Isaac is gone for good or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I always figured the 3DS version release might not be the end of it: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=129524882&postcount=14153 Either that old 4chan leak is still real, or some people are out there are really trying to milk this for all it's worth. This is nice and all, but moving models could easily mean assist trophies or stage bosses. But I'll cling to any hope for Dixie being playable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 This is nice and all, but moving models could easily mean assist trophies or stage bosses. But I'll cling to any hope for Dixie being playable.Yeah, that's another thing I considered. The big thing I was hoping for from the base 3DS version was that the lock on All-Star wouldn't be removed even when all the available characters are unlocked. It doesn't necessarily kill my theory that more characters will become available over time, but it does hurt it. Either way, while everyone hoped it would, speculation was never going to end with the 3DS release. It will continue until the Wii U version release, and in this generation, possibly even longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) Well, maybe with additional characters added later, All Star Mode would become All Star Mode Plus. That's the only way I can think of for this to make sense, but I don't think I'm quite as clever as Sakurai, so... :P But if I'm right about this, well...holy shit. lol Edited September 11, 2014 by Anacybele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I have to say, I'm really wanting to try out and main Duck Hunt Dog. I've always had a soft spot for retro characters whose series has stayed dead for decades, and even as a kid I always found the Dog way more funny than annoying. I'd even play Duck Hunt every now and then despite not even having the Zapper just to see the laugh. I'm thinking and hoping so. I mean, if Sakurai has been putting that much work into the Ice Climbers and (if Gematsu was outdated rather than wrong) Chrous Men, I should hope that he'd come to the conclusion that it'd make more sense to make then Wii U exclusive if they didn't work on the 3DS, rather than throw away hours/days/weeks of work trying to implement them and throw away all that work for nothing. And before anyone says "Sakurai's keeping the Wii U and 3DS rosters exactly the same," keep in mind the Official SSB4 site and the April Direct emphasize that anything regarding SSB4 is tentative subject to change, and may not be final. And due to Sakurai obviously putting in a lot of effort into the Ice Climbers and trying to work them into the 3DS version, I should hope he's not going to scrap all that work completely. Well, that's just unreasonable. If it was a matter of you hating the Ice Climbers as a character, finding them redundant (like Toon Link or Dark Pit, but Ice Climbers are far from being like those two), or them sticking out like a sore thumb among the Nintendo cast (*cough*Snake*cough*) that'd be understandable. But enjoying them being cut just because you didn't like their play style or it didn't click with you? By that logic, a lot of people should be hoping like crazy that regular Link is never playable in future Smash games due to competitive players and a good chunk of people finding his playstyle bad (less so in Melee, though). To me, people being upset about Snake's cut is as ridiculous as people complaining about no Darth Vader or Yoda in Soul Calibur V. I mean, those three are guest characters that stick out like sore thumbs among the cast that they were guests of. They should consider themselves lucky that Snake was even in a Smash game (especially considering most would say there are tons of 3rd parties that have supported Nintendo better and deserve to be in Smash more), and shouldn't treat him like he's some sort of staple to Smash and that his exclusion to SSB4 is a crime. Gets mad at people saying good riddance to the ICDoes the exact same thing to Snake Still as hypocritical as ever I see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Since when was Rando ever a hypocrit? As far as I've seen, he's a really nice and awesome guy and doesn't cause any trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djing Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Since when was Rando ever a hypocrit? As far as I've seen, he's a really nice and awesome guy and doesn't cause any trouble. Being nice and being hypocritical aren't mutually exclusive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) But being a hypocrit isn't a nice thing to be. And Rando doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would be bad things. xP Edited September 11, 2014 by Anacybele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Starwind Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Whelp time to find my new main :/ Btw do you still have to charge Link's up b? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingddd Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) Whelp time to find my new main :/ Btw do you still have to charge Link's up b? you never needed to but his recovery has definitely been buffed up significantly Edited September 11, 2014 by kingddd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 You did have to charge it for it to do maximum damage. I'm curious if this is still the case too. Though I don't really care either way. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stewart Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Bad news for GS fans: Apparently, Isaac didn't even come back as an Assist Trophy. So that means that GS didn't get any significant content this time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Starwind Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Is the charge option still there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingddd Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Is the charge option still there? yes it still is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Starwind Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 So, I know it's been said no dlc but do we think it's still going to happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 So, I know it's been said no dlc but do we think it's still going to happen naw, dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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