Lord Raven Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I don't know if Genealogy of the Holy War is a transliteration of some sort of Seisen No Keifu, but I think we can all agree that sounds kinda awkward and long. I think game titles should have more brevity? It just doesn't flow. I feel like something like "Bloodlines" would work, but I dunno I always think of Castlevania when I hear that. Of course, dondon just suggested "Descent of Jihad" which is... an interesting take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) The only real sticking point for me is Genealogy. Something like Chronicles of the Crusade captures the feel much more succinctly in my opinion, with bonus alliteration, although it loses a bit in the way of the subtle hint. Edit: Maybe even Crusader Chronicles, if you want to get rid of the prepositional phrase. 2nd Edit: The more I think about it, the more I'm liking Crusader Chronicles, actually. I'm pretty surprised. Edited January 15, 2015 by Balcerzak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Descent of Jihad is a classic. I could see it getting a title like "Bloodlines" or "Generations" if it were ever to be remade and localized, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) Game of (Seizing) Thrones.Crusader Chronicles is concise and punchy, definitely the name to go with if it or a remake was ever officially translated. (Edit: Unfortunately it's already in use.)Though I think the long, awkward name fits FE4 much better. Edited January 15, 2015 by Baldrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookofholsety Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 i once saw it rendered by a russian resource site as "ancestral crusade", and i quite like that. not enough to particularly care about calling it anything other than "genealogy of the holy war", but nevertheless... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Gabriel Knight Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I prefer Genealogy of the Holy War. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jave Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I say call it "Fire Emblem: The Main Character Dies Halfway Through" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonLord Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Descent of Jihad is a classic. You realize Jihad means "struggle" in essence right, not necessarily holy war. It could still be used though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 in essence connotations matter bro :P i once saw it rendered by a russian resource site as "ancestral crusade", i am a fan of this, op, or something similarly punchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonLord Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) connotations matter bro :P Not disregarding its validity, just saying it doesn't only mean "holy war". It was originally defined as "spiritual struggle", but it has been taken to be a word more associated with religious war. Anyway, I still think it could be used in a newer title of FE4, but I also like the name Genealogy of the Holy War. Edited January 15, 2015 by DragonLord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) Descent of Jihad isn't something anyone here made up, it's what it was called in an old issue of Nintendo Power. And personally I wouldn't like to see it changed. I think Genealogy of Holy War is a great name. Makes it sound large in scale and perfectly characterizes what the game is about...Well I guess it doesn't indicate the presence of the political machinations but I don't think you could get a title that includes that along with the generational and holy themes. The only problem with Genealogy of Holy War in my mind is that I keep forgetting the second E in Genealogy but I have spell check to correct that. It's also the official translation as of Awakening but I guess that is subjective to change. Edited January 15, 2015 by Jotari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 It was originally defined as "spiritual struggle", fortunately or unfortunately depending on your position, welcome to the evolution of language since this literally doesn't matter anymore; if your target audience is (say) americans, it might not be a good idea to use the word jihad in your product title because the only thing that really matters is how your target audience interprets it. crusade is, as far as we americans are concerned, basically the same word but it doesn't carry most of the same negative connotations in american society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 zigludo's descent of jihad is the only correct choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Fire Emblem: Massive Mounted Movement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 no you gotta go all out for this one Fire EMbleM: Massive Mounted MoveMent call it M6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roivann Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) I say call it "Fire Emblem: The Main Character Dies Halfway Through" No, call it "Of Dragons and Men". George shoots Lennie- I mean, Arvis incinerates Sigurd. [/sarcasm] I don't speak or read Japanese, so I probably don't know what I'm talking about, but could "seisen" be translated as "crusader" as well as "crusade"? Because "Fire Emblem: Descent of Crusaders" or "Fire Emblem: Crusaders' Bloodlines" could be cool. Edited January 15, 2015 by Rovan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Twice Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I don't think it's awkard or long, it's both memorable and a perfect translation of the Japanese original. It's precise too, as it captures the main themes of the games far better than something like "Crusaders' Bloodlines" or "Crusaders' Chronicles" would. It's important to note that the game is not as concerned about events (Chronology) as it is about the people involved in them (Genealogy). The focus is not on the Holy War, but on the people that were, are and will be shaped by it. It's about how Serlis is bound to follow the steps of his father, just like his father was bound to follow those of his forefathers. The historical aspect is a driver for the personal side, which I think is pretty integral to Fire Emblem as a series. There are also some issues with Chronology or Crusaders since they are refer to different things in the context of the game (Judgral Chronology, Sigurd is not a crusader, etc.) and they sound awfully clichéd, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 okay compromise "crusaders of jihad" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 ancestors of atheists imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cymbalina's Revenge Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) Ribald Tales of the Faith War. With Bikini DLC. (I do like Descent of Jihad) Edited January 15, 2015 by Cymbalina's Revenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 come on losers, at least Descent of the Jihad, Descent of Jihad looks so engrish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Naut Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Seconding Genealogy of the Cavalry War. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 come on losers, at least Descent of the Jihad, Descent of Jihad looks so engrish i counter-propose descent of jihado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 not much of a holy war with sety!arthur wrath!critting everything =/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirmola Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) honestly, my main issue with the title is the fact that "holy war" has negative connotations in the west due to the crusades and and jihads motivated for religious reasons. maybe something like "genealogy of conflict" or "genealogy of heroes" would work better? Edited January 16, 2015 by sirmola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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