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1. This draft is for 4+ players.

2. Deirdre, Ardan, Alec, Noish, Radney, Roddleban, Aless, Oifaye and Julia are free for all to use.

3. Sigurd and Celice are banned from drafting.

4. When the mothers are drafted, their children come with them. Example: Drafting Ayra gives you Ayra, Lakche and Skasaher.


1. Undrafted units may only: Seize, recruit characters, participate in Talk conversations and special events that do not require the participants to be lovers.

2. Undrafted units may not do anything not listed above, including but not limited to meatshielding, giving Charisma bonuses, or using the Give command.

3. Leaf may not equip the Leg Ring.

3. Other and Neutral units may do as they please without penalty.

4. Arena use is allowed and encouraged.


1. Non-holy weapon users (Noish, Ayra etc.) have a 3 turn penalty per unit per castle.

2. Holy weapon users (Levin, Shanan etc.) and Dancers have a 7 turn penalty per unit per castle. Example: Using Noish (if undrafted) en route to Jungby results in a 3 turn penalty. Once Sigurd seizes Jungby, you take another 3 turn penalty if you use Noish while en route to Evans.

3. Using the Give command is a special 12 turn penalty.

4. There is a 1 turn penalty per experience point gained by Sigurd and Celice.


1. Generation 1 units may lose a bout in the Arena and then die to an enemy while unequipped to prevent them getting married. The enemy must have no other friendly units in his attack range and must finish the character in a single round.

2. Briggid, Claude and Tiltyu are free to use in Chapter 3.

3. Dew may lower the bridge in Chapter 4 if undrafted. He may not perform any other disallowed actions without penalty.

4. Leaf, Fin and Janne are free to use in Chapter 7.

5. Shanan is free to use in Chapter 7 until Yied is seized.

6. Midir is free to be attacked in the Prologue. Sigurd and Celice are free to be attacked while unarmed.


3. MartyTheDemonSlayer: (Ethlin, Leaf, Altenna), (Fury, Fee, Sety), (Lachesis, Delmud, Nanna), Azel, Claude, Holyn, Beowulf, Hawk, Dimna, Ardan, Amid, Asaello

1. Baldrick: (Aideen, Lana, Lester), Laylea, Levin, (Tiltyu, Arthur, Tinny), Lex, Shanan, Dew, Daisy, Femina, Sharlow, Jamka, Hannibal

2. General Horace: (Sylvia, Leen, Corple), Fin, Cuan, Midir, (Ayra, Lakche, Skasaher), (Briggid, Patty, Faval), Mana, Janne, Tristan, Linda, Johan, Johalva

[spoiler=units remaining]

Edited by Baldrick

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How long do you think we should wait before conscripting someone in to draft? No point in letting it stall.

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I honestly probably wouldn't have much time to play before Friday anyway (although drafting could be done beforehand)

I do actually really want to see how this ends up working out though. Hopefully REPTOR isn't a problem and OHKO's your dudes although there are a TON of people who can silence/sleep him so he shouldn't be an issue.

It's up to you though!

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from personal experience, Ethlin's also a strong choice since she also gives you Leaf, who's the best user of rescue by far. In normal drafts, units like Aless who's free here are also valued for some other utlilty too (like he can kill Alvis while Celice retrieves Tyrfing) but he's free here. Aideen gives you staffbots for as long as possible (and earlier access to the warp staff in gen 2) and Lana with money is like 10x better than Mana.

Sylvia's definately still a good pick though. Leen/Laylea cost a few turns (that they probably make up) in gen 2 as well. In a draft like this, even someone like Ayra (who's usually the last or second last mother drafted) might have a use here because swordkids that can actually ORKO enemies will likely allow Celice to move a bit further ahead on the first few turns before Oifaye shows up (and if you give one of them the leg ring/eliite ring, you have earlier access to that in gen 2 for your whole team to use since Celice can't inherit them). Actually the more I think about stuff that could happen in this draft, the more excited I am to play it, haha.

Alternatively Baldrick, we could just draft with 3 players, and just have 12 units each. We'll have 2 useless units like Asaello and Hannibal each anyway probably.

Edited by General Horace

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That could work. How do you propose we deal with the mother+children? It might be better to have them draftable alongside the other characters rather than force player 3 to go short. Or we could split them into three picks each if we want to be really experimental

Going to sleep now, so if nobody signs up in 8 hours, we'll start.

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I'm not against having mothers draftable alongside other units, people are gonna likely want dudes like Levin over mothers like Briggid (although even Briggid can fight the lategame bosses better than a lot of guys and Faval can actually probably fight Alvis (at awful hit but still)

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Yeah this draft will be very interesting, to the point where I was considering things like leg ring!rescue!mana if picks didn't go my way. Sigurd/Celice are so pivotal to FE4 ltc that playing without them will open up a lot of new possibilities.

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We'll have all units draftable together then.

Here is your sequence:




Timestamp: 2015-01-21 22:31:54 UTC

So Marty picks first, then me, then Horace.

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