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Are you talking about Finn? If so that whole ordeal was just a terrible decision I wanted to try but deeply regretted. Thanks for staying with this by the way!

Finn? I was talking about Marita. I suppose my last post does sound a little awkward. I rewrote it a lot because I didn't want to sound judgemental and because I wasn't sure what counts as spoilers, like for example talking about the alternate outcomes of that scenario in the arena.

Also, yeah you won't get anything from those houses unless you saved the kids back in chapter 4x.

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Finn? I was talking about Marita. I suppose my last post does sound a little awkward. I rewrote it a lot because I didn't want to sound judgemental and because I wasn't sure what counts as spoilers, like for example talking about the alternate outcomes of that scenario in the arena.

Also, yeah you won't get anything from those houses unless you saved the kids back in chapter 4x.

Whoops, forgot that my most recently completed chapter isn't the most recent update. I have no idea what I was thinking at that moment because all gameplay before Ch. 6 was done 10 months ago. I'm going to assume I thought Dark sword = irredeemable evil = kill on sight. Oh well ;-;

As for spoilers, if I've missed something I'm fine with you telling me what it is. I'm not going back to re-get missed stuff, which may hurt me in Genealogy. I will admit that I re-did Ch. 6 once I picked this back up because I lost Lara to Galzus capturing her, however.

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Well, you didn't have to kill Marita. You only needed to either open the door or have Eyvel capture her. In fact, Eyvel wasn't even in danger since she had literal plot armor the entire time. Lethal attacks against her will always miss. Now Eyvel can get captured, so she is not unbeatable. But Marita couldn't have done that because her Con is too low. And the other enemies couldn't get too her since Marita was in the way.

Anyway, her death is a bit of a shame since it means that certain characters will get less screentime.

And btw, if Eyvel kills enough enemies in the arena, Galzus would have shown up to force a quick resolution.

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Well, you didn't have to kill Marita. You only needed to either open the door or have Eyvel capture her. In fact, Eyvel wasn't even in danger since she had literal plot armor the entire time. Lethal attacks against her will always miss. Now Eyvel can get captured, so she is not unbeatable. But Marita couldn't have done that because her Con is too low. And the other enemies couldn't get too her since Marita was in the way.

Anyway, her death is a bit of a shame since it means that certain characters will get less screentime.

And btw, if Eyvel kills enough enemies in the arena, Galzus would have shown up to force a quick resolution.

Welp, there's another casualty of my blindness, adding onto two holy weapons lost. I might have been more worried about Nanna at the time. I'm just glad I didn't go with my old Ch. 6 at this point, that was a disaster. As for plot armor, seems she has even better of that than Ephraim! I suppose Marita and related stuff are things I'll have to look forward to in another run. I'm wondering how Galzus coming in would work out, so maybe I'll try out some stuff the next time around.

Anyway, muchachos, we'll be caught up with this update. I'm settled back home for most of the rest of the summer save another week out, but I'm hoping Thracia will be done by the end of the summer. Gather 'round for Ch. 7!

Roxy.OS: I'm getting bored of all this escaping.

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What are you talking about? I dismounted Karin in attempt to get her some more SPD on foot, but then I realized that she has tons of levels to get those last points.

This is going to be a bit tricky to articulate.

Ehm, even after a mounted unit hits their caps, they are still able to gain a stat increase until the dismounted version is capped as well. So basically what I'm trying to say is that keeping Karin mounted does not prevent her dismounted form from hitting the speed cap.

Also good job beating this map by running away from the Manster forces and recruiting Shiva along the way. I only ever manage to recruit him when I also beat the Manster forces into submission. Which is painfully easy since they only show up two at a time.

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This is going to be a bit tricky to articulate.

Ehm, even after a mounted unit hits their caps, they are still able to gain a stat increase until the dismounted version is capped as well. So basically what I'm trying to say is that keeping Karin mounted does not prevent her dismounted form from hitting the speed cap.

Also good job beating this map by running away from the Manster forces and recruiting Shiva along the way. I only ever manage to recruit him when I also beat the Manster forces into submission. Which is painfully easy since they only show up two at a time.

I think I see what you're trying to say. Would the amount in the character's stat be 21 mounted, but the game forcing a 20 cap despite that undisplayed value? I have seen Marty get BLD when he was capped, so I know what it would look like. Thanks for the praise! I probably would have been flailing around trying to figure out who to recruit him with, though, and I wish I decided to be smart instead of provoking the Zerker. Hopefully forgetting everything before Ch. 5 won't hurt me in guessing recruitment in future chapters.

Short chapter this time around. I'm glad about that since I've been a little tired. The calm between storms, possibly? Anyway, muchachos, gather 'round and chill with this update.

Roxy.OS: Grab a blanket if you'd rather keep warm!

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You do realize you missed the Gaiden, right? If Rumay isn't captured by turn 15, he mounts, and capturing him and then seizing is how 8x is reached, meaning Dagdar is now a Deadlord come Endgame.

I'm going blind so I couldn't have known. If I went any faster I would have gotten him most likely. That last bit is spoiler territory for purposes of this playthrough, so I'd rather not know more stuff like that before I get there.

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I'm going blind so I couldn't have known. If I went any faster I would have gotten him most likely. That last bit is spoiler territory for purposes of this playthrough, so I'd rather not know more stuff like that before I get there.

Oops. Still, try to keep turn counts low if possible from now on, otherwise you might miss some characters, or otherwise gain some unwanted ones.
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I think I see what you're trying to say. Would the amount in the character's stat be 21 mounted, but the game forcing a 20 cap despite that undisplayed value? I have seen Marty get BLD when he was capped, so I know what it would look like.

Yeah, for all practical purposes the stat would still be 20. Those additional stat-ups only benefit the dismounted variation of the class.

Then he just ditches the mansion? Ok. The music changed once he rode his Wyvern, as well. I’m really confused as to why map music changes in this game.

Besides the usual victory theme that occurs when most of the enemies are gone, in this game the music will also change to a desperate piece whenever one of your characters dies. That track also gets triggered through certain story events like this one.

It's a shame that this is the only game in the series that does this. It's a great idea that adds quite a bit to the atmosphere.

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Oops. Still, try to keep turn counts low if possible from now on, otherwise you might miss some characters, or otherwise gain some unwanted ones.

Gotcha. Next time I go through 8 I should be able to get through it and capture the boss in 15 turns since it's relatively easy.

Besides the usual victory theme that occurs when most of the enemies are gone, in this game the music will also change to a desperate piece whenever one of your characters dies. That track also gets triggered through certain story events like this one.

It's a shame that this is the only game in the series that does this. It's a great idea that adds quite a bit to the atmosphere.

Interesting, I like that a lot! I ended up having to kill Benny in my Revelations run, so I wonder what the music could have changed to had they accounted for that kind of situation.

Holy schneikes, this is back! I can't read chapter 7; it keeps prompting me for a google drive password with, I'm assuming, your account.

I didn't even know the game would let Evayle kill Mareeta.

Took quite a bit of dusting off, but it is! I updated the link on that post, and if that doesn't work I should be able to PM you the copy/pasted version. If it's not working for anyone else, I'll look into what's going on, since anyone who can click the link should be able to view it.

This time around, muchachos, I shouldn't have gone over any important turn barriers that create Deadlords. Gather 'round for a not lazily done update of Force's Jugdral!

Roxy.OS: While there may be hope for Thracia, there is none for Force's memeing ability.

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Wow I actually did things this week! Learning how to fly drones was pretty fun, but considering I was actually away from my computer that gave me less time to work on this. I suppose that's a lesson in time management. To make up for that lost time, I'll throw in my thoughts so far about the units in the game. Without further ado, muchachos, gather 'round for rain delayed Force's Jugdral!
Roxy.OS: You drone on too much, Force. Hopefully you'll manage things in 11th grade better than this.

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Well that made me feel old as shit.

Trade ages? I'm probably pretty young for someone who enjoys the entire series, though. I'm a year older than "fucking 15 or something," as Raven would say.

To be honest I'm getting worried that I'm going to be slammed with some huge thing of bullshit in a few chapters considering how well things have been going. So far the game doesn't seem too bad, but I'm sure that will change at some point. Until then, muchachos, we'll gather 'round for shitless Force's Jugdral.

Roxy.OS: Don't be scared, or you'll be shitless as well.

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Whoa, I never noticed that Karin can reach that Ballista at the left. I was wondering how one would be able to reach that side chapter without having purchased like half a dozen door keys in advance. Nice job.

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Trade ages?

Eh, maybe in two years. I'm not so old that I'm nostalgic for high school.

So do those closing comments mean you answered your own question about the ramp-up in difficulty.

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Whoa, I never noticed that Karin can reach that Ballista at the left. I was wondering how one would be able to reach that side chapter without having purchased like half a dozen door keys in advance. Nice job.

Thanks! My eyes didn't like that the map was just off of being asymmetrical, but it does give you that one spot where Karin is safe to lob Javelins over the wall. Fortunately a few Door Keys are catchable.

So do those closing comments mean you answered your own question about the ramp-up in difficulty.

Yep. I'm currently suffering in Ch. 12, too.

I'm going to be without Internet next week, so no Thursday update, but I should have one up for next Sunday. Unlike the previous chapter, muchachos, I don't catch onto something that would benefit me. Gather 'round and excuse my mistake in Force's Jugdral

Roxy.OS: Despite what you may think, children cannot handle themselves in the face of trained soldiers.

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Hey guys, I'm back, alive, and well, but I haven't found it in me to play Thracia lately. I'm not looking forward to the BS I know exists in Ch. 12, and I find myself wanting to finish up a personal, long delayed run of Path of Radiance. Also, I've found my days slipping away in Rocket League, and I'm heading out of town for a few days again. There might be something I have to do for school before the start of the year as well, so I'll be putting this on a hiatus. Hopefully it won't be too long.

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