Radiant head Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) That's kinda how I define a mascot (maybe I'm wrong) Even Pikachu, he isn't really like Marth because before the anime he was just a random (and rare) monster in like one area. In later games he still doesn't show up very often. Just like Anna is just a random girl that shows up in menus, until Awakening. Yeah but how relevant is it to discuss Pokemon without the anime? I would say the anime is to Pokemon what Smash is to Fire Emblem, in which Marth is the constant character to appear. Ultimately I feel this argumen tis kind of pointless because I feel like people have completely different ideas as to what the criteria for "mascot" even is. Edited April 19, 2015 by Radiant head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icercube Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) We weren't talking about Ike though, it's a debate on whether Marth or Anna is the series mascot. :P Touche. Though I'm aware :P Why can't the series mascot just be the Fire Emblem? After all, that's the series's namesake... Edited April 19, 2015 by icercube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCProductions Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Touche. Though I'm aware :P Why can't the series mascot just be the Fire Emblem? After all, that's the series's namesake... Because this is the internet, where rules of logic need not apply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Why can't the series mascot just be the Fire Emblem? After all, that's the series's namesake... Doesn't it change form over the various games? Which Fire Emblem would you consider to be the "official" one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magical Glace Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Doesn't it change form over the various games? Which Fire Emblem would you consider to be the "official" one? Probably the shield, by the power of first-ness. It's as good a reason as any! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoirCore Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Getting back on topic, I think Kris is a pretty important character as well, due to being the first example of character customization in the series, something plenty of people (including myself) like in video games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Getting back on topic, I think Kris is a pretty important character as well, due to being the first example of character customization in the series, something plenty of people (including myself) like in video games. TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, it's Mark from FE7 (you choose the name and birthday). Kris is a self-insert, and he/she sort of took over a chunk of the story for no good reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoirCore Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, it's Mark from FE7 (you choose the name and birthday). Kris is a self-insert, and he/she sort of took over a chunk of the story for no good reason.I'm not arguing in favor of Kris for his/her plot relevance, just for being the first example of character customization. Also, even if the intention was to make him/her an avatar, the user wasn't forced to make their own selves. I didn't mention Mark as his/her customization is drastically limited to what you mentioned (plus gender ;3), so you couldn't really create a character in terms of appearance at all, making the customization process underwhelming, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magical Glace Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I'm not arguing in favor of Kris for his/her plot relevance, just for being the first example of character customization. Also, even if the intention was to make him/her an avatar, the user wasn't forced to make their own selves. I didn't mention Mark as his/her customization is drastically limited to what you mentioned (plus gender ;3), so you couldn't really create a character in terms of appearance at all, making the customization process underwhelming, in my opinion.Don't forget blood type in the JPN version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoirCore Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Don't forget blood type in the JPN version.They went as far as blood type? o.o; Wonder why the English version got rid of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magical Glace Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 They went as far as blood type? o.o; Wonder why the English version got rid of that.It was admittedly kinda pointless. All it did was alter affinity alongside birth month, but there are more months than affinities so Mark could have any affinity without blood type modifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kon Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Blood type isn't as big of a deal in the western countries as it is in Japan. Also, not a whole lot of people know their blood type off-hand, so it would have likely confused people playing it for the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Blood type isn't as big of a deal in the western countries as it is in Japan. Also, not a whole lot of people know their blood type off-hand, so it would have likely confused people playing it for the first time. Yeah the Princess Maker games in particular really love blood type . I forgot the personality quirks in Japan for the various types. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icercube Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Doesn't it change form over the various games? Which Fire Emblem would you consider to be the "official" one? I would say the first since it was the first...but maybe Nintendo/IS could design a new one and make it the official one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I'm not arguing in favor of Kris for his/her plot relevance, just for being the first example of character customization. Also, even if the intention was to make him/her an avatar, the user wasn't forced to make their own selves. I didn't mention Mark as his/her customization is drastically limited to what you mentioned (plus gender ;3), so you couldn't really create a character in terms of appearance at all, making the customization process underwhelming, in my opinion. The tactician's stars gave crit evade to everyone, and accuracy/avoid to those with the same affinity. It also gave Afa's Drops. Since Mark did have an impact on the game, even if it wasn't as a unit on the battlefield, and your choices affected which characters received the effect, it counts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magical Glace Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 The tactician's stars gave crit evade to everyone, and accuracy/avoid to those with the same affinity. It also gave Afa's Drops. Since Mark did have an impact on the game, even if it wasn't as a unit on the battlefield, and your choices affected which characters received the effect, it counts!It what? If you mean +5 growth to characters with Mark's affinity, this site says it is a myth. http://serenesforest.net/blazing-sword/miscellaneous/the-tactician/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dual Dragons Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 It what? If you mean +5 growth to characters with Mark's affinity, this site says it is a myth. http://serenesforest.net/blazing-sword/miscellaneous/the-tactician/ She means the Tactician Stars. For each star you get, everyone gets +(number of stars) Critical Evade. Those you share the same Affinity with also get an additional bonus of +(number of stars) Accuracy and Avoid bonus. The choice of which Affinity you were and that you even made a tactician (apparently you don't get Afa's Drop if you don't make a tactician) affected the gameplay--even if minor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magical Glace Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 She means the Tactician Stars. For each star you get, everyone gets +(number of stars) Critical Evade. Those you share the same Affinity with also get an additional bonus of +(number of stars) Accuracy and Avoid bonus. The choice of which Affinity you were and that you even made a tactician (apparently you don't get Afa's Drop if you don't make a tactician) affected the gameplay--even if minor. I knew about Tactician Stars, but not Afa's drops being exclusive to Tactician present files. That's a little weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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